Kia and Hyundai.

[scratchpaddy]

That website is a fantastic resource, especially when looking at models ten years old and more. One of the reasons I have a Yaris now is that their top four subcompacts are all basically the Yaris.

[ern-diz]

Hyundai breaks out the Genesis into it's own, higher end brand...

http://abc7.com/automotive/hyundai-l...nesis/1750381/

[kimona]

Originally Posted by ern-diz

Hyundai breaks out the Genesis into it's own, higher end brand...

http://abc7.com/automotive/hyundai-l...nesis/1750381/

Actually, nice looking cars; refined, conservative, and classy. They look expensive. I used to say that about Lexus, but not anymore.

[scratchpaddy]

Originally Posted by kimona

I used to say that about Lexus, but not anymore.

True. Now they look all pissed off.

[justanotherdrunk]

the lexus i want

[ern-diz]

Originally Posted by justanotherdrunk

the lexus i want

That is just a bit too futuristic looking for my taste.

[David C]

Originally Posted by justanotherdrunk

the lexus i want

That car looks like the ugly potato that's always left last on the rack at the groceries store xD

I think that's more Dubai-like styling than North America market. Still I think Lexus has the edge over Acura and Infinity as a big manufacturer premium brand. They do put a lot of thoughts into their design to make it highly functional.

I remember many years ago when they introduced the IS F sport sedan, I was thrilled to spend time in the driver seat at the Montreal Auto Show that year, despite being too young to have a license yet :)




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[tarkus]

I recall it was way cheaper, although I wasn't driving or paying for the gas when I was over there.

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[David C]

Originally Posted by tarkus

I recall it was way cheaper, although I wasn't driving or paying for the gas when I was over there.

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I wouldn't be surprised to see dealership include free gas for as long as you own the car when you buy it new from them, considering how much money everybody has over there, I don't see them winning more customer then the guy next door just by offering rebate on oil change xD

[junorico24]

Has Kia and Hyundai caught up with Mazda, VW and Toyota? The small car segment i30 will be a monster hit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzIxFZa6dfE&t=183s

[Kalispel]

Not a fan of the i30 styling, overall, especially from the front and sides. Plus, the Hyundai logo looks like a wannabe, rip-off Honda logo. I would choose a Toyota iM, Yaris SE or Mazda3 (sedan or hatch) over the i30 every time.

[kimona]

Originally Posted by Kalispel

Not a fan of the i30 styling, overall, especially from the front and sides. Plus, the Hyundai logo looks like a wannabe, rip-off Honda logo. I would choose a Toyota iM, Yaris SE or Mazda3 (sedan or hatch) over the i30 every time.

I agree with your comments about the styling of the new i30.

Currently, the Mazda3 or Mazda CX-3 are the only cars I would consider if I left Toyota... which is highly unlikely.

[tarkus]

Personally I'm not keen on the styling of most Hyuandais. They look plasticy IMO, and have too many curves, groves and lines to be able to look elegant. Totally agree about tie logo as well.

Some Kias look a bit better IMO, except for the black and horribly plastic-looking radiator grill.

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[David C]

We got rear-ended in traffic last Monday by a driver who tried to skip out of the exit lane to get ahead of the crowd, he never looked in front of him when he floored the pedal on his way to the left lane (he was constantly checking his side mirror for upcoming cars).



We were in the work truck, a GMC Savana, and it hit pretty hard, however the only damage was a recessed in the half left of the metal bumper and crack open the left back door flashing, exposing the lower hinge to the elements. Lucky the door and bumper were still functional. The boss was pretty pissed at the guy when we called him, until he saw the aftermath on the other driver's car.



A 2014 Kia Forte, the whole passenger front end obliterated and lefts tons of clear plastic lens and reflector material on the highway, plus fog light frame and bezel, engine splash guard, huge bumper cover chunk, lights, etc. he barely was able to drive the car 1000' forward to a gas station to get on the flat bed tow truck. Blue smoke coming out the exhaust and burn tire smell. Even the front right wheel was wobbly.

I wouldn't be surprised if the insurance company decides to scrap the car instead of having it fixed. All that for a low speed traffic collision.




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[junorico24]

I have had this Kia Sportage for nearly a year and half and i have to give the company nothing but respect.We have had bumps along the way, well my wife who is in her learners license hit a car at the stoplight .But even after that this car continues to impress.We have taken it to Queensland I live in Sydney tthe car just ran no fuss it's a 9 hour trip. We are now in jervis bay and this car is running smoothly comfortable as F&@k.Maybe it's properly broken in.The Diesel engine the heart of this machine is exceptional it has plenty of grunt when you need it.A bit of lag but when it kicks in it just keeps pulling but linear.I can't wait to test drive the Kia stinger.

It's time to stop being badge snobs imo.

[junorico24]

Still not impress. How about i tell you that Peter Schreyer and Albert Beirman are the engineers behind Hyundai and Kia performance cars.

If you like Beemers and Audi's then there's no reason you wont like Kia and Hyundai except for the logo.

[WeeYari]

^ there's a front plate on that Kia. Out of province vehicle or just a 'decorative' plate?

[David C]

Decorative baseball team plate.The guy was a Blue Jays fan. Which explains the blue color too.


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