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02-19-2019, 09:40 PM | #1 |
Drives: '08 2zr swapped Vios M/T Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Caledonia Ont.
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SS Brake Line Warning
so this happened last week...
hopped in my car to head to the gym on an early morning and felt my brake pedal sink down to the floor slowly after stopping at the red light. Checked my fluid and it was half empty. Sure enough one of my Stoptech DOT approved hoses had a leak. I luckily still kept my original rubber hoses so swapped them in, pressure bled the system and was back in business. The SS lines were about 8 months old and had one season of track use on them. My previous StopTech lines were 2 years old before I replaced them due to looking worn and excessive cracking of the outer covering. Both sets of lines started to crack within the first month due to the bends they have to make on the Yaris suspension. The bends are even tighter if you have coilovers (at least they are with BC coils) I'm ordering all new rubber lines and sticking with those from here on out. Even when I put the OEM lines back in I couldn't believe how much better the fitment and design was. The two rubber lengths with a metal part in the middle is a much better design due to the tight bends with turning the wheels. Just a heads up to anyone who's interested.
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02-20-2019, 10:48 AM | #2 |
Drives: 05 Echo Join Date: Jul 2009
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Never been a fan of aftermarket braided lines
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02-20-2019, 12:56 PM | #3 |
3 Yaris and counting..
Drives: 07 Yaris rs 3 door 2zr swaped Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Toronto Canada
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I had a feeling these lines would be problems after I realized the rear ss line kit is no where near compatible with the 2012 yaris se that stoptech claimed they were. With that said, I'm still planning on I stalling the front set as I don't plan to drive in winter with this setup. Hopefully the lack of salt exposure will prolong the life past 8 months. But totally gonna have to keep an eye on 'em
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02-20-2019, 01:27 PM | #4 | |
Drives: '08 2zr swapped Vios M/T Join Date: Oct 2012
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You can see the black boot in my line is expanded sideways, this is because that is the position of the line while the wheel is turned. Puts a lot of stress on the fitting at the end of the line. When I put my new rubber lines in, I'll post how the feel is in comparison to the old ones. I'm not convinced that ss lines are that much stiffer than new oem rubber lines. It is just that most people replace old rubber lines with ss and then price a big difference.
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02-20-2019, 04:43 PM | #5 |
Drives: 05 Echo Join Date: Jul 2009
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02-21-2019, 05:44 AM | #6 |
3 Yaris and counting..
Drives: 07 Yaris rs 3 door 2zr swaped Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Toronto Canada
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I wonder if the rear lines are why the ss front ones don't feel much stiffer? On the 2012 axle I have, there's actually 4 rubber lines from the car body to the caliper. One set from car to axle, a short set of hardlines fastened to the axle and another set of hard lines from axle to caliper. Now I do not recall if the drum setup is the same way.
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02-21-2019, 06:49 AM | #7 | |
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The short run of steel hardline on the fronts that mount to the strut tab are a good design and are one of the reasons the ss lines don't fare well. I've read a bunch into ss vs rubber lines as well as the construction of both. My conclusion is that there really isnt much difference in stiffness between either, the main reason so many state they feel they are stiffer is because they are replacing old worn rubber lines, so it is not a fair comparison. I'll post up if I notice a difference when I put all new rubber lines in
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02-21-2019, 07:55 AM | #8 |
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Off the top of my head I can’t think of anything I would change from OEM on my car.
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02-21-2019, 12:28 PM | #9 |
Drives: 2007 2-door hatchback Join Date: Jul 2016
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10 bucks for the drop-in interior LED bulb over the left rear wheel facilitates prolonged ajar hatch for interior drying...25 percent of the OEM watts for more light. (everything done carefully w/ these delay lamps, since a short there can kill Hal.)
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02-21-2019, 01:38 PM | #10 | |
Drives: 2015 H Production Yaris Join Date: Oct 2009
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I see Garm still has a set for sale: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Agency-Powe...~cez:rk:1:pf:0
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02-22-2019, 07:17 PM | #11 |
Hmm, I see...
Drives: 2012 Toyota Tundra and Yaris Join Date: Oct 2016
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I actually bought a set of stoptechs for the front and rear for my 2012 hatch and returned them because the rears looked nothing like the factory ones. I snagged a set of Microimage ones and going to install them when i do my ghetto bbk
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04-02-2019, 10:43 AM | #12 | |
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