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Old 02-28-2006, 11:40 PM   #1
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At the end of the day, a car is a commodity. The closer you feel attached to it coz of little things you can solve yourself, the more it runs your life rather than the other way around. Life still goes on.
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Old 03-01-2006, 02:00 AM   #2
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At the end of the day, a car is a commodity. The closer you feel attached to it coz of little things you can solve yourself, the more it runs your life rather than the other way around. Life still goes on.
One can take it easy at everything but anything should have a standard.
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Old 03-03-2006, 10:04 PM   #3
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Yes, and Toyota's standard is usually quite high........
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Old 03-04-2006, 12:09 PM   #4
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I totally agree !!!

My car also currently suffering from irritating rattle at the back...

Still yet to be determine where the noise are coming from...
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Old 03-04-2006, 05:03 PM   #5
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Wow, you have problems.

NO brand new car should have ANY rattles or squeaks or noises.

Car manufacturers spend hundreds of millions developing new models, they do not want there brand new state of the art vehicles making noises they should not.

The Yaris is a brand new model in every sense of the word. If there is any squeaks or rattles there is a problem.

If you want to buy a low quality car, go buy a chinese one. When I buy a Toyota I expect a high quality car no matter what the price point is.
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Old 03-04-2006, 05:24 PM   #6
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Wow, you have problems.

NO brand new car should have ANY rattles or squeaks or noises.

Car manufacturers spend hundreds of millions developing new models, they do not want there brand new state of the art vehicles making noises they should not.

The Yaris is a brand new model in every sense of the word. If there is any squeaks or rattles there is a problem.

If you want to buy a low quality car, go buy a chinese one. When I buy a Toyota I expect a high quality car no matter what the price point is.
Why?, I enjoy reading your posts though I may not agree with you 100% e.g. under the thread for air bags. Views can be correct or incorrect but it is your rational thinking and untiring research that I admire. Let's carry on our discussions with our friendly and unoffensive tradition.

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Old 03-04-2006, 06:42 PM   #7
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Wow, you have problems.

NO brand new car should have ANY rattles or squeaks or noises.

Car manufacturers spend hundreds of millions developing new models, they do not want there brand new state of the art vehicles making noises they should not.

The Yaris is a brand new model in every sense of the word. If there is any squeaks or rattles there is a problem.

If you want to buy a low quality car, go buy a chinese one. When I buy a Toyota I expect a high quality car no matter what the price point is.
I agree 110% with you on this one.
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Old 03-05-2006, 05:30 PM   #8
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Wow, you have problems.

NO brand new car should have ANY rattles or squeaks or noises.

Car manufacturers spend hundreds of millions developing new models, they do not want there brand new state of the art vehicles making noises they should not.

The Yaris is a brand new model in every sense of the word. If there is any squeaks or rattles there is a problem.

If you want to buy a low quality car, go buy a chinese one. When I buy a Toyota I expect a high quality car no matter what the price point is.
No. You're wrong. If anyone has a problem, it is definitely you. You have no clue about the word value. But like I said it's no use for me to explain to you, because it's like me beating a dead horse... It still goes no where.

Why don't you grow up and get a life.
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Old 03-06-2006, 10:56 AM   #9
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No. You're wrong. If anyone has a problem, it is definitely you. You have no clue about the word value. But like I said it's no use for me to explain to you, because it's like me beating a dead horse... It still goes no where.

Why don't you grow up and get a life.
Ok, you are really trying to anger me, no?

You obviously have no clue what you are talking about.

Toyota spent hundreds of millions of dollars on the Yaris.

That is a lot of money.

You are saying that Toyota is too stupid to spend that much money and create a quality product.

Again I say you are wrong.

My father owns a 1982 Toyota Supra. It has over 250,000 miles on it. It is not in perfect shape. Brand new is costed about 12 grand. Even to this day their are NO squeeks or rattles.

You claim you know what you are talking about.If their are regular squeeks and rattles, I say Toyota did not get the value out of its workers that it deserves. If I spent a few hundred million dollars on developing a product, I know I'd want the product to be defect free.

That is what you have to understand. The consumer is not the one who paid to create the vehicle. Toyota did. The consumer is just paying to purchase a vehicle that is endowed with all the quality and value that Toyota has placed in these vehicles when they spent hundreds of millions of dollars to create the vehicle.

As to your pathetic analogy, if I purchased any product for 3 bucks, it damn well better be defect free or I would return it.

Squeeks, rattles, and other constant noises are NOT to be expected, they are defects. They are to be fixed.

People like you who expect low quality products are the reason GM makes crappy vehicles and expects them to sell. They think all consumers want are crappy low quality vehicles. It is also the reason Toyota is going to become the #1 World Wide Car Manufacturer this year. They create high quality products and everyone knows it.
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Old 03-06-2006, 01:35 PM   #10
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Ok, you are really trying to anger me, no?

You obviously have no clue what you are talking about.

Toyota spent hundreds of millions of dollars on the Yaris.

That is a lot of money.

You are saying that Toyota is too stupid to spend that much money and create a quality product.

Again I say you are wrong.

My father owns a 1982 Toyota Supra. It has over 250,000 miles on it. It is not in perfect shape. Brand new is costed about 12 grand. Even to this day their are NO squeeks or rattles.

You claim you know what you are talking about.If their are regular squeeks and rattles, I say Toyota did not get the value out of its workers that it deserves. If I spent a few hundred million dollars on developing a product, I know I'd want the product to be defect free.

That is what you have to understand. The consumer is not the one who paid to create the vehicle. Toyota did. The consumer is just paying to purchase a vehicle that is endowed with all the quality and value that Toyota has placed in these vehicles when they spent hundreds of millions of dollars to create the vehicle.

As to your pathetic analogy, if I purchased any product for 3 bucks, it damn well better be defect free or I would return it.

Squeeks, rattles, and other constant noises are NOT to be expected, they are defects. They are to be fixed.

People like you who expect low quality products are the reason GM makes crappy vehicles and expects them to sell. They think all consumers want are crappy low quality vehicles. It is also the reason Toyota is going to become the #1 World Wide Car Manufacturer this year. They create high quality products and everyone knows it.
Well said! I think we should just leave this guy on his own. I won't say what I want to say about him here or I'd get myself in trouble. As I said, I work in the automotive industry in the manufacturing side of things. I know how things should work and how strict Toyota is when there are any issues. They want to avoid any problems with vehicles and will look after you if you raise the issue to their attention. That's why I bought a Toyota. There are some people out there that should educate themselves before they open their mouths and have the guts to admit when they are wrong.
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Ok, you are really trying to anger me, no?

You obviously have no clue what you are talking about.

Toyota spent hundreds of millions of dollars on the Yaris.

That is a lot of money.

You are saying that Toyota is too stupid to spend that much money and create a quality product.

Again I say you are wrong.

My father owns a 1982 Toyota Supra. It has over 250,000 miles on it. It is not in perfect shape. Brand new is costed about 12 grand. Even to this day their are NO squeeks or rattles.

You claim you know what you are talking about.If their are regular squeeks and rattles, I say Toyota did not get the value out of its workers that it deserves. If I spent a few hundred million dollars on developing a product, I know I'd want the product to be defect free.

That is what you have to understand. The consumer is not the one who paid to create the vehicle. Toyota did. The consumer is just paying to purchase a vehicle that is endowed with all the quality and value that Toyota has placed in these vehicles when they spent hundreds of millions of dollars to create the vehicle.

As to your pathetic analogy, if I purchased any product for 3 bucks, it damn well better be defect free or I would return it.

Squeeks, rattles, and other constant noises are NOT to be expected, they are defects. They are to be fixed.

People like you who expect low quality products are the reason GM makes crappy vehicles and expects them to sell. They think all consumers want are crappy low quality vehicles. It is also the reason Toyota is going to become the #1 World Wide Car Manufacturer this year. They create high quality products and everyone knows it.
You are an idiot. For one thing, you act like the Yaris is the only car that has had millions invested in it. Get a book and get your numbers right. For my second point, I never said Toyota is too stupid to not use quality materials. You are just too stupid to acknowledge that you get what you pay for so I can't help you there if you fail to understand.

And as for Toyota paying to create the product. You are also wrong. The consumer pays for that too... They pay with it with their interest in the product. Without no consumer there is no product, K? Gesh... Ever heard the saying "The customer is always right?" That's just not a BS saying. It's actually true.

And for my next point. Whether you pay a dollar, 3 grand, a million of a billion, everything has a defect. Get over it. Don't get me wrong. I baby my parents cars (Yes. I'm only 17) too, but I understand reason too.

And also. If they are to be fixed... These defects... Don't you think they'd be loose peices that you could possibly fix with a screwdriver etc? Why would you even bring it into a dealer? Give away more money than you need to? Unless it's something you can't get to, then you must be pretty stupid...

And for your 411. GM only makes bad vehicles, because they don't take the time to check their stuff over. And also that is also is very stereotypical, which shows you how much you know about cars. My parents own two GMs (A Vibe and a G6) and they function well. As for the whole GM being lazy... They'd rather deal with recalls, because they know most of their customers won't come to get the recall. So they save money, because they don't have to fix the problem, they created in the first place. If you know anything, it's not because of people like me. You are very ignorant.

And also. I am an Auto Technician... Sure I'm only 17, but I am very knowledgeable. And I think I've been pretty helpful, and I don't say anything unless I'm sure it's correct... So you choose to not believe me. And if I say something that isn't correct, feel free to correct me, because I know that I don't know everything... But please don't be ignorant...

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Old 03-05-2006, 09:36 AM   #12
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Old 03-05-2006, 05:47 PM   #13
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Friends, may be the issue is how we approach the problem. If rattles are difficult enough to notice and are not heard often under day to day use, I will call it practically non-existent. This should happen with new and well maintained expansive cars. However, if there are rattles that seem to suggest that something is wrong with the car somewhere e.g. suspension, I will suggest to deal with that, at least for safety. With that in mind may be I can agree with everbody here.
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