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Old 01-28-2009, 08:22 PM   #1
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Mike, I respect your points, truely, but my statements were to answer the simple questions and getting results for our novice members who might want to tackle something a bit bigger than say, putting an exhaust on from TRD. You and I are in a different class than some of our members when it comes to building and installing.


I'm not looking to argue, I have my own plans on what I'm doing with mine. Like it or not, selling a product without full testing in all markets does not work for everyone. My approach with this thread would have been a feeler and would have taken the data back to my employer with the suggestions. Battles and name calling doesn't help the product move IMO. Good luck with the sale and I hope you do not take anymore offense to these suggestions
Both very true, and very well-said.
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If I could jump in this heated debate for a second.
I think this kit is the cat's meow, but getting someone to be the first on here is tough. Although I'm decently well versed as a weekend mechanic, I don't know enough about toyota's to say if this is a bolt-on affair.
In my experience, MANY parts designed as bolt-on need some sort of modification, for any car. I.E. strut bar rubs a.c. line, coilover didn't come with a brakeline bracket, etc.

But as far as options go, people, this is a viable S.C. option. To go from 85 WHP o.e.m. to 142-150 WHP with this kit is amazing.
If I were in the market for this kit right now, this would be the be all end all of my power gain searching. With a few more bolt ons that other vendors offer, I'd say you could add another 10-15 WHP or so.
But without this kit on a car on american soil dyno, i'd say you still need to prove the power gains as substantial as you suggest.

OK, carry on.
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Mike, I respect your points, truely, but my statements were to answer the simple questions and getting results for our novice members who might want to tackle something a bit bigger than say, putting an exhaust on from TRD. You and I are in a different class than some of our members when it comes to building and installing.


I'm not looking to argue, I have my own plans on what I'm doing with mine. Like it or not, selling a product without full testing in all markets does not work for everyone. My approach with this thread would have been a feeler and would have taken the data back to my employer with the suggestions. Battles and name calling doesn't help the product move IMO. Good luck with the sale and I hope you do not take anymore offense to these suggestions
point taken, what people dont understand on here is that Power Enterprise, backs their products, we specialize and choose certain items to create and sell, ONLY because we believe the product is worthy to put our name on it and sell it.

I realize many Americans like myself are skeptical of things on "word" or business done on a "handshake" but this company, based in Japan, follows the principles followed still by most if not a good majority of Japanese companies, that is reputation of word, company, and person is worth its wait in gold.

now this isnt, a moral competition, but at the same time people need to have a little faith that there are still companies that make and stand by what they sell and manufacture.

When you go to a gas station, you expect gas to pump into your car, its a given expectation, you dont expect water, milk or any other fluid other than the octane gas you choose.

the same goes with out products, when you see something you want, and read what is described, that is what you get nothing more, nothing less.
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Old 01-28-2009, 08:52 PM   #4
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The 1st gen Box and xA have 1NZ-FE motors too, but their turbo/sc kits don't directly bolt onto our cars.
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but, it has the same engine!!!!!

it must fit!!!!!

that's why the xB Greddy kit bolts up perfectly to my xA


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i've seen it with my own 2 eyes. the engine can have the same code but not be the same

i was looking at getting the 1st gen Xb intake manifold by weapon r until i learned that the Xb throttle body was cable driven and had a 3 bolt pattern where the yaris is drive by wire and has a 4 bolt pattern which meant i would have spent $700 on a manifold that i couldnt use.

i may not have the money to buy this supercharger but i have enough money to place a bet that this kit will not install without some kind of issue big or small.

if some one with the patience and money just try this kit so that this can be laid to rest and Power Enterprises Evan can start making some money. everyone will be happier in the end if we do.

now can we please stop bashing Power Enterprises Evan, its REALLY making this a boring thread
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now can we please stop bashing Power Enterprises Evan, its REALLY making this a boring thread
by "boring" do u mean entertaining? dude i have been checking on to this thread everyday, its just there is so much drama, love and hate in here lolHAHAHA

All i have to say is that its true, just cus the engine code is the same does not mean that it will be the same exact engine in every model that carries it. I had 2005 Rav4 with the same 2azfe engine which is the same in the tc, but the engine cover and intake are completly different, i tried to get the trd supercharger for the tc in my rav but trd said it wouldnt work because the mounts bracket etc. is completly different.

I know that in japan this kit costs 5k, so 3800 or watever power evan said in the earlier thread is not bad at all. but what i dont get is why P.E. has a superchager kit for the honda fit for about he same price and it makes 170ps, wat is up with that? will there be a stage 2 kit in future for the yaris? and if so, if i buy the current supercharger kit and later u guys come out with another more power variant will it just be a simple upgrade from the previous one or would i have to buy it entirely as a replacement?
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by "boring" do u mean entertaining? dude i have been checking on to this thread everyday, its just there is so much drama, love and hate in here lolHAHAHA

All i have to say is that its true, just cus the engine code is the same does not mean that it will be the same exact engine in every model that carries it. I had 2005 Rav4 with the same 2azfe engine which is the same in the tc, but the engine cover and intake are completly different, i tried to get the trd supercharger for the tc in my rav but trd said it wouldnt work because the mounts bracket etc. is completly different.

I know that in japan this kit costs 5k, so 3800 or watever power evan said in the earlier thread is not bad at all. but what i dont get is why P.E. has a superchager kit for the honda fit for about he same price and it makes 170ps, wat is up with that? will there be a stage 2 kit in future for the yaris? and if so, if i buy the current supercharger kit and later u guys come out with another more power variant will it just be a simple upgrade from the previous one or would i have to buy it entirely as a replacement?
there is no plan as of yet to increase output or add upgraded stages.

Rotrex and PE Japan, generally go with the assumption and "safe-side" of modification. assuming you have a stock engine

now i will say that it isnt hard to upgrade the pulley, but any evidence that the pulley has been tampered with will void your warranty.

so if you think you can pull off a mod with no detection be my guest, but its the engineers that do the inspection... not me
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i've seen it with my own 2 eyes. the engine can have the same code but not be the same

i was looking at getting the 1st gen Xb intake manifold by weapon r until i learned that the Xb throttle body was cable driven and had a 3 bolt pattern where the yaris is drive by wire and has a 4 bolt pattern which meant i would have spent $700 on a manifold that i couldnt use.

i may not have the money to buy this supercharger but i have enough money to place a bet that this kit will not install without some kind of issue big or small.

if some one with the patience and money just try this kit so that this can be laid to rest and Power Enterprises Evan can start making some money. everyone will be happier in the end if we do.

now can we please stop bashing Power Enterprises Evan, its REALLY making this a boring thread

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Well, you did just say 1NZ-FE. Okay, a Yaris is a Yaris right? So how come JDM bumpers won't fit our USDM ones unless we get a JDM crash bar? "Same car" right?
Look,i dunno what the hell you are trying to prove, but if you read the top the sub catagory of this forum is "Forced Induction" as in turbo and super charger kits, maybe you should do a search if you want to change your bumpers....
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Old 01-29-2009, 03:59 AM   #9
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what part of "Yaris Supercharger kit" do you not understand?

NOT 1NZ-FE "Universal supercharger kit"....
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Look,i dunno what the hell you are trying to prove, but if you read the top the sub catagory of this forum is "Forced Induction" as in turbo and super charger kits, maybe you should do a search if you want to change your bumpers....
I wasn't really even talking to you about this. I was simply pointing out a flaw in another member's statement in regards that Yaris parks fit all Yarii when in reality they do not. I've been long enough and know where things are, and I'm not interested in changing my bumpers. Again, simply pointing out a flaw in another member's statements.

And I UNDERSTAND when you said Yaris supercharge kit, and again, I was pointing out when a member said that since we have a 1NZ-FE motor, that all parts will fit, and I simply pointed out that other cars' supercharger kits with the same motor will not be a direct bolt on.
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because we dont know how to drive here and have to have thicker reinforcement bars...and apparantly not too many of us know how to work on cars here either...
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because we dont know how to drive here and have to have thicker reinforcement bars...and apparantly not too many of us know how to work on cars here either...
This referring to me?
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i didnt say anyone in specific.
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i didnt say anyone in specific.
In that case, nvm.
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what people dont seem to understand here is THE CARS HAVE THE SAME ENGINE AND CHASSIS CODES!@!@@!!@ the part will fit or else they wouldnt be the same. and the body panels/ bumper supports have nothing to do with the chassis codes nor will it affect the install of this supercharger. for f**cks sake just look at some damn engine bay pics if your that hard headed.
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what people dont seem to understand here is THE CARS HAVE THE SAME ENGINE AND CHASSIS CODES!@!@@!!@ the part will fit or else they wouldnt be the same. and the body panels/ bumper supports have nothing to do with the chassis codes nor will it affect the install of this supercharger. for f**cks sake just look at some damn engine bay pics if your that hard headed.
Mike,
I think that the real concern is as to whether or not this is a "true" 100% bolt on, no modifications whatsoever modification (hardware wise).
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what people dont seem to understand here is THE CARS HAVE THE SAME ENGINE AND CHASSIS CODES!@!@@!!@ the part will fit or else they wouldnt be the same. and the body panels/ bumper supports have nothing to do with the chassis codes nor will it affect the install of this supercharger. for f**cks sake just look at some damn engine bay pics if your that hard headed.
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This is sad...

The facts are this-
1. Just because it bolts into a JDM Yaris doesn't mean it will bolt directly into a USDM Yaris.
2. JDM and USDM actually do have minor differences in terms of body shape, wheather this encrouches into the engine bay or not is unknown (unless someone has compared the two side by side).
2. The 1NZFE code indicates the block and head only.
3. The engine management used on different cars powered by a 1NZFE varies greatly.
4. The number of belts (and what type) used to power the accessories varies between models using the 1NZFE as well.
5. A supercharger is powered by the accessory belt, so minor differences may turn into big mounting challenges.

That being said, I can't believe the seller refuses to do whatever it takes to clear up these issues. I have never seen a new kit available without a full installation and dyno to back it up. As a salesmen trying to sell a product online, I think the OP needs to step it up. However, I also think several members here need to back off so something has a chance to happen.
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This is sad...

The facts are this-
1. Just because it bolts into a JDM Yaris doesn't mean it will bolt directly into a USDM Yaris.
2. JDM and USDM actually do have minor differences in terms of body shape, wheather this encrouches into the engine bay or not is unknown (unless someone has compared the two side by side).
2. The 1NZFE code indicates the block and head only.
3. The engine management used on different cars powered by a 1NZFE varies greatly.
4. The number of belts (and what type) used to power the accessories varies between models using the 1NZFE as well.
5. A supercharger is powered by the accessory belt, so minor differences may turn into big mounting challenges.

That being said, I can't believe the seller refuses to do whatever it takes to clear up these issues. I have never seen a new kit available without a full installation and dyno to back it up. As a salesmen trying to sell a product online, I think the OP needs to step it up. However, I also think several members here need to back off so something has a chance to happen.
Thank you,


ONCE AGAIN MY OFFER STILL STANDS.....
i will take a weekend to help anyone who wants to buy the kit, even if you are the 30th purchaser of the kit....

Tell me all you "auto enthusiasts" how many of you work in the aftermarket industry?

how many of you are willing to take YOUR weekend off to help a complete stranger and your company?

Well, i'm getting paid so what do I care right?
NOPE i am NOT getting a dime. and my offer of going to Vegas or Nor Cal, all i'm asking for is my transportation paid for, I WILL find my OWN room and board...

I'm getting commission so i'll do anything to make a sale?
NOPE, i make a hourly wage, i'm also a student, between the two splitting my hours it would take me about 6 months to buy this kit,



So for all of you bigg ballers out there that do nothing but pity and complain, step up to the plate.....

i can promise you that a good majority of you wouldnt be willing to help much less spend time off of work to respond to thread posts much less take time out of your day to make a sale for a company that isnt even paying you.

I do what i do because i enjoy the industry and am doing my best to keep the industry alive and fellow auto enthusiasts happy. THE END
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