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Old 09-08-2012, 03:32 AM   #1
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...Installed the LEDs this afternoon and tested them out with all the trim in and on. It's going to look GREAT at night when you open that trunk!

Also installed the solid state relay. Can't really test it out until I get everything in the car on Monday though. Over the weekend I'll be reworking the wiring in the trunk. Monday I'll pick up more 3/8" quick connect fittings for re-routing the air line to take stress off the bends before I hit the shop.

Oh! Love this...I somehow lost my OEM carpetting. I have no flippin' clue where it is. GREAT! That's not an expensive fix or anything...Edit...found it squirreled away in a back cabinet at teh shop. Phew!





Okay, both these pics were taken under shop halogen lighting. That trunk is going to light up big time at night when you open the trunk. That with the contrast between the black painted amps and the white paint then the LEDs...

Also that carpeted surround is just a mid panel between the rack and the top beauty panel. It's not intended to be seen, rather it hides the LED strip and the edges of the rack from direct view.



I also got the solid state relay installed. That is a boring detail BUT in competition you're penalized for relay noise. Whelp...a solid state relay doesn't make any noise...AND...this relay that I have has variable turn off delay. That will allow time for the components upstream to turn off before unloading current onto the amplifiers and causing pop. The back board is carpeted already and I need to move the tank location tonight and create a hole for the air line to go through the panel for a more stress free run.
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Old 09-09-2012, 04:05 AM   #2
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...Installed the LEDs this afternoon and tested them out with all the trim in and on. It's going to look GREAT at night when you open that trunk!
Looks like you are going at 100 MPH!

Looks good, I still need to install the relay, trying to figure out how?


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Old 09-09-2012, 04:45 PM   #3
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I'm stuck right now until tomorrow.

You see the pic up there with the tank and the compressor? Turn the tank over (upside down and put the compressor on the other side. That's how it's layed out now. I've switched the air line output to keep it on the right side of the car.

...In the process I got too far ahead of myself and need to recarpet the board. The shop is closed today.

That being said, tomorrow is a busy one! I'll get some new fittings to help take the stress off the air line. I'll get the board component mounting points installed, carpet the board, put everything back up, install all of it, make the wires pretty...finalize the DRC mounting back on the modded mounting kit, install the amps, processor and stereo.

Tomorrow night I should have sound, air, and lighting. Over the next week will come the tuning. I'll try to have Bill Pleasant come down next weekend so we can two seat this heffer and get it ready for INAC. Two pairs of ears are better than one in this case.
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Old 09-10-2012, 12:15 AM   #4
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Tomorrow night I should have sound, air, and lighting.
Sounds like a famous Rock Band!

Hurry up!

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Old 09-10-2012, 01:06 AM   #5
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Whellp...I got the back board ready to go in. The fuse holder is waiting until I get the board up in the car.

My mind is on the morning. First stop is the fluid connector supply place...to work to pick up some bread for my peeps at the shop...then to the hospital for a pre surgery consult...THEN it's shop time.



It's not much of a picture, but the trunk can be assembled and ready in a half an hour. All wiring, RCAs and amplifiers. You see that hole where the air line is pointing to? The hose is going to go through the board at that point. That whole board is sitting up vertically when I get it in. Notice that the tank and compressor are both placed up more That'll give the amp rack more space to be seen. Those two pairs of wires will also be loomed up in black to blend in better. I still have to figure out the run path...
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Old 09-10-2012, 07:17 PM   #6
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Derick, this is your little sub:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8yArcObFZI

Amazing "output", but I'm sure this setup would be garbage for "response".
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Derick, this is your little sub:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8yArcObFZI

Amazing "output", but I'm sure this setup would be garbage for "response".

Yeah! that's the one, but mine lives in a smaller box with 0.35cf and a 15" long 2" Dia. port (Just what HAT recommends) and with 300 watts more.

The feeling of the music coming at you from the front feels so natural, the Bass hits my chest, not the seat, and I love it!

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Old 09-11-2012, 03:33 AM   #8
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a long time ago...

... in a galaxy far far away... ( as in: the early 90's )

I was checking out some gear in a local car audio shop. I was testing some subs in a truck. I tried some 10's in boxes. I tried some Bazooka tubes.
10" Bazooka tubes were too big to fit anywhere. Tried the 8", it was okay.
Then I tried two of the 6" Bazooka tubes. Bass was SWEET. Very musical and smooth. Smooth and tight at the same time. Problem was, they were not loud at all. GREAT SQ.... no SPL at all really.

I seen some Sundown Audio 8's. Them things are AWESOME.
They like the power though.

I'm definately getting more into SQ over SPL these days.
I don't listen to music that loud, and I hate boomy bass that you can hear coming down the street. I don't want that in my car.
I like clean, punchy sound IN my car. Since switching to those Infinity's, I got it. Those Infinity's are efficient. They work good with lower power.
Picked `em up for $60 each. Well worth it.
I'm sure two TypeR 10's in a sealed box would be great too, but I would need a 900w amp to push them.

So many different ways to go. Too many choices really.
I just gotta get that Roadkill in there... and then I will be happy and content.
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For a second I thought link into the video we made last year of the L4s playing bass mekanik...
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Got the Infinity 10's in the car today. Took it for a test run.
Initial impression: I LIKE IT.
Output seems to be about the same. Bass is cleaner and tighter, which was exactly what I wanted. Tighter kick-drum hits. Still plays really deep stuff too.
Sounds more "controlled" and musical.
The single TypeR 10 in the slot-ported box was boomy. It liked stuff like Beat Dominator, but was a little loose and muddy with rock and metal music.
The two Infinity 10's in the sealed box can do the Beat Dominator really nice, but also handles the metal stuff way better. Glad I went for the switch.
I really wasn't sure how much of a difference it would make, and whether or not it would be worth it, but it was worth it.
Only putting 200w RMS each to these Infinity's, and they are sounding sweet.
I'm sure they will get a little better once they get broken-in a bit.

NEXT project: sound deadening.
Gotta pull my interior panels back off and install the Stinger Roadkill.
I know it will help. I wish I could have done it back when I changed my speakers, but funds were tight, and I didn't really know how much difference it would make.
After living with this car for a few years, one thing is certain: it is NOISY.
The Roadkill is going to help it. Even if I wasn't ever going to do a system in it, the car still needs it!

SQ: these Infinity's are blending with my mids. I can hear a big difference.
The old TypeR was just off by itself in la-la land. My whole system sounds more "musical" now. No other way to really describe it. It's nice and clean.
Can't wait to get the Roadkill in there.
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SQ: So.... is the new "fad" TRANSMISSION LINE boxes now?

Seems like the stuff Bose has been doing for awhile. What they refer to as: "acoustic waveguide technology"

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Old 09-11-2012, 04:43 PM   #12
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It does seem to be the thing. I'm not taking part in it...

I'm looking at an Imagine 10 SW in a sealed enclosure while I wait for the Legatia 13.
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What ever happened to Image Dynamics? I remember you used to love those subs.

SonicElectronix is selling ID subs now. ( They have been for awhile )

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ID? Oooohhh....Sensitive subject.

The originals were forced out by the main financer IIRC. ID has gone the way of PG when Ronin bought it out.

Not the same.
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Yikes. Bad politics on the ID thing.
Remember when Lanzar was high-end boutique? They sold-out too.

You must be running all HAT drivers now anyway, huh. You like the subs they offer?
I was on their website checking them out. Was kinda funny, because the description of the Imagine 10 was very close to the Infinity Reference 10 I just got.
Higher Xmax rating on the Imagine 10, but very similar design. Stamped basket, rubber surround, poly cone, 2" voice coil. About same power requirements.
The Imagine sub has aluminum voice coil. Infinity is copper.
I'll bet the Imagine's aren't selling for $60 though.

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Naw...the I10s aren't the same I can guarantee that. That being said, I'm looking at working with one later this year. I just have to sell my 15" to afford it now.

I've worked the trim pieces for the door panels. I'll be hanging the door panels by Wednesday next week. I've got to clean the garage and get the carpet down in the car.

I'm working on the only true bug in the system now...
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Naw...the I10s aren't the same I can guarantee that.
I'm sure they're not, but I don't see what the significant differences are. ( Besides the obvious inverted surround )
( Must be little secret details.)

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That being said, I'm looking at working with one later this year. I just have to sell my 15" to afford it now.
A 15" in the Yaris? Did you just free-air it in the trunk on a baffle board? Them things take a HUGE box.

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I've worked the trim pieces for the door panels. I'll be hanging the door panels by Wednesday next week. I've got to clean the garage and get the carpet down in the car.
Hopefully tomorrow I will get going on the sound deadening. Excited to see how much of a difference it makes. I'm using the Stinger Roadkill Expert stuff.

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I'm working on the only true bug in the system now...
Which is WHAT exactly?
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I'll get Scott to chime in on the engineering and building differences between the I10 and the Infinity if that's okay. I don't want to say somthing that is incorrect regarding the HAT product.

The 15 was sealed in the trunk. That's where it worked the best for me. Facing toward the trunk lid. I still have the glass spare tire well wenclosure as well as the pre-fab enclosure for it. At this point I'd throw them both in for free. I need space in my garage.

I love the Stinger Roadkill Expert. If you go with foam, the Overkill is THE shit.

The bug? Turn of sequence for my source, processor and amps.

I apologize about the crappy iPhone 3gs camera. It's a fee phone so I don't complain (too much). Hopefully I can get the new 5 through a set of unfortunate accidents with this current phone. :P




^Painted trim ring.


^Trim ring with the grill mesh. I'll permanently attach them tonight and let them sit until everything is cured.

Oh yeah...I forgot about the dash. I'll take a couple pics and throw those up.
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