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sqcomp · 07-09-2012, 11:20 AM

I hate drilling into metal...

derickveliz2 · 07-09-2012, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sqcomp

I hate drilling into metal...

Me too! I'm going to confirm that in a few minutes!

D.

derickveliz2 · 07-10-2012, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 07typeS

And if you do try the sawzall, please get it on video!!!! haha

I did it! I did it!

Video1:*It was so easy that I took my phone for a video!

Video 2: Without holding my cell phone for video I could probably have done it in less than half of the time..

D.

derickveliz2 · 07-10-2012, 01:23 AM

OK, this was so EASY, just like a hot knife on butter! best $15 bucks spent.

Now I have left tweeter as far forward and far to the left I possible can! I gain 5 inches and that's a lot! the distance from my left ear to tweeter now is 48" it used to be 43".

Stage is wider and deeper already!
Probably 5 inches sound meaningless, but you should hear the difference that it makes.

Picture 1: the a-pillar after cutting the metal

Picture 2: Tweeter in place! NICE! I'm happy.

D.

sickpuppy1 · 07-10-2012, 06:41 AM

What about the aiming? Looks like its down at the dash....

sqcomp · 07-10-2012, 09:49 AM

The aiming axis at that point will only have a minor effect. The gain Derick has from physical location is going to override the angle for the most part. What I'm going to be interested to see is how the mounting is integrated with the a pillar.

I see that mount is deep...really deep in there. What say you Derick? This may be a good experiment for horn loading...

sqcomp · 07-10-2012, 09:52 AM

Sand down those edges on that metal, run that wire...are you going to surround the mounting hole with some deadening to reduce resonances? How's the tweeter going to be mounted?

derickveliz2 · 07-11-2012, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by sqcomp

What I'm going to be interested to see is how the mounting is integrated with the a pillar.

I see that mount is deep...really deep in there. What say you Derick? This may be a good experiment for horn loading...

Yeah me too! I'm thinking about cutting a big section (hole) in the lower part of the a-pillar and build up a big open horn shape from the tweeter's base to the opening of the a-pillar, I'm not sure how to accomplish that, but I'll dig into it.

D.

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Originally Posted by sqcomp

Sand down those edges on that metal, run that wire...are you going to surround the mounting hole with some deadening to reduce resonances? How's the tweeter going to be mounted?

Yes will deaden the area, I will use a thin sheet of wood/balsa wood or even MLV as baffle into the metal.

D.

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sqcomp · 07-11-2012, 08:48 PM

Baffling into the metal...I wish I could be out there with you to help. I think between the two of us we could make this happen REALLY quickly.

*sigh*

Using some substrate you can drill into using the L1v2's mounting holes. I'm thinking even a 1/4" pan head would be fine and not kick too far into the metal depending on the thickness of the substrate.

I'd say make a couple rings out of balsa that are juuuuusssst slightly larger than the outer diameter of the tweeter and then reverse the technique we've used to make the original pillars. Build in instead of out.

Thoughts?

derickveliz2 · 07-11-2012, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sqcomp

........and then reverse the technique we've used to make the original pillars. Build in instead of out.

Thoughts?

You read my mind!

D.

sickpuppy1 · 07-11-2012, 11:24 PM

Kind of a speaker mounted in a funnel. Interesting.....Hey, what about using a funnel! lol

sickpuppy1 · 07-11-2012, 11:26 PM

By angleing the cut on the material you could still aim it a bit if needed. If nothing else it would be a cheap way to experiment.

sickpuppy1 · 07-11-2012, 11:27 PM

Would it have a megaphone effect though if not treated or coated....

derickveliz2 · 07-11-2012, 11:32 PM

Hilser Funnel in process... kind of!

pictures of the cut out section soon...

Hilser Funnel

D.

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derickveliz2 · 07-12-2012, 01:41 AM

Area to but removed...

I'm sorry for the quality of the pictures, I used my cellphone

D.

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derickveliz2 · 07-12-2012, 01:43 AM

Just for FUN...

Painted calipers the other day!

D.

sqcomp · 07-12-2012, 03:13 AM

@ sick...

I'm not so sure that we'll have much of an effect that far off axis.

@ Derick...

Go to Toyotapartszone and get another pair of a-pillars. It's a just in case thing. I'm off to do my Army drill thing for the next two weeks and that pillar thing is one of the first things I need to do when I get back...seeing where my tweeters are now.

derickveliz2 · 07-13-2012, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sqcomp

@ Derick...
seeing where my tweeters are now.

I saw a picture showing your tweeters in the sail panels! I was going to go that way too.

But now I can't wait for some extra time and cut the right side and move right tweeter there, the stage is impressive to me, and sweets my taste for Front Stage better than before.

Good luck in the next 2 weeks! Will be hovering around here!

D.

07-09-2012, 11:20 AM	#2053
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	I hate drilling into metal... __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine Last edited by sqcomp; 07-09-2012 at 10:32 PM.

07-10-2012, 01:23 AM	#2056
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	OK, this was so EASY, just like a hot knife on butter! best $15 bucks spent. Now I have left tweeter as far forward and far to the left I possible can! I gain 5 inches and that's a lot! the distance from my left ear to tweeter now is 48" it used to be 43". Stage is wider and deeper already! Probably 5 inches sound meaningless, but you should hear the difference that it makes. Picture 1: the a-pillar after cutting the metal Picture 2: Tweeter in place! NICE! I'm happy. D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

07-10-2012, 06:41 AM	#2057
sickpuppy1 Drives: 2010 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kansas Posts: 871	What about the aiming? Looks like its down at the dash.... __________________

07-10-2012, 09:49 AM	#2058
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	The aiming axis at that point will only have a minor effect. The gain Derick has from physical location is going to override the angle for the most part. What I'm going to be interested to see is how the mounting is integrated with the a pillar. I see that mount is deep...really deep in there. What say you Derick? This may be a good experiment for horn loading... __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

07-10-2012, 09:52 AM	#2059
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Sand down those edges on that metal, run that wire...are you going to surround the mounting hole with some deadening to reduce resonances? How's the tweeter going to be mounted? __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

07-11-2012, 08:48 PM	#2061
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	Baffling into the metal...I wish I could be out there with you to help. I think between the two of us we could make this happen REALLY quickly. sigh Using some substrate you can drill into using the L1v2's mounting holes. I'm thinking even a 1/4" pan head would be fine and not kick too far into the metal depending on the thickness of the substrate. I'd say make a couple rings out of balsa that are juuuuusssst slightly larger than the outer diameter of the tweeter and then reverse the technique we've used to make the original pillars. Build in instead of out. Thoughts? __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

07-11-2012, 11:24 PM	#2063
sickpuppy1 Drives: 2010 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kansas Posts: 871	Kind of a speaker mounted in a funnel. Interesting.....Hey, what about using a funnel! lol __________________

07-11-2012, 11:26 PM	#2064
sickpuppy1 Drives: 2010 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kansas Posts: 871	By angleing the cut on the material you could still aim it a bit if needed. If nothing else it would be a cheap way to experiment. __________________

07-11-2012, 11:27 PM	#2065
sickpuppy1 Drives: 2010 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kansas Posts: 871	Would it have a megaphone effect though if not treated or coated.... __________________

07-11-2012, 11:32 PM	#2066
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Hilser Funnel in process... kind of! pictures of the cut out section soon... Hilser Funnel D. . __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

07-12-2012, 01:41 AM	#2067
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Area to but removed... I'm sorry for the quality of the pictures, I used my cellphone D. . __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

07-12-2012, 01:43 AM	#2068
derickveliz2 View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Sedan "S" Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central, MA Posts: 2,722	Just for FUN... Painted calipers the other day! D. __________________ . My system may not blow your ears, but it will sweeten your senses. CLA 250, 4MATIC

07-12-2012, 03:13 AM	#2069
sqcomp Roadrunner Jr. View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris S Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Back at home Posts: 2,609	@ sick... I'm not so sure that we'll have much of an effect that far off axis. @ Derick... Go to Toyotapartszone and get another pair of a-pillars. It's a just in case thing. I'm off to do my Army drill thing for the next two weeks and that pillar thing is one of the first things I need to do when I get back...seeing where my tweeters are now. __________________ “To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.” ― Thomas Paine

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