So how 'bout that Ecometer by Auto meter? - Page 14 - Toyota Yaris Forums

Sodium Duck · 02-23-2010, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Twistoffate0817

Okay so it shooting from 15 mpg to 140 is normal? I duno how to change my driving style if at every second its going from 20 mpg to 40, then to 70, then to 20. Its sort of odd. Shud I leave it on average MPG?

When you are coasting down a hill or to a stop and your foot is not on the gas, it would stand to reason that your instantaneous MPG would be very high (yes 140+ MPG) as the car is in motion and it is barely using any gas.

When you are at a stop, or just beginning to accelerate, it would also stand to reason that your instantaneous MPG would be very low (yes <15 MPG) as the car is not moving very far or fast and you have your foot buried in the gas.

Switch it to average MPG, this will coincide more closely with what you envision MPG to be.

OR, again, you could read the manual. For example, I keep mine on average MPG, and have the light ring set up with a MPG goal of 40. Such that, when the light ring is not displaying green, I know I am getting <40 MPG and should back off of the throttle. But at the same time, I am not distracted by all the wide fluctuations of the instantaneous MPG readout. When the light ring is displaying red, that means I'm getting <10 MPG, and when about 1/4th of the light ring is lit up green, I'm getting >100MPG. Just before it starts lighting up orange is 40MPG.

I hope that explains some of your concerns. It's funny how people think MPG is this constant static thing that barely ever changes. There's this weird disconnect I've noticed -- people don't understand the farther you push the pedal to the floor, well, the more gas your are dumping into the engine. Yes, your MPG ranges very widely, but when you average ALL that data out, you get a nice normal number that you can relate to.

I've seen a few posts/product reviews like this online. One where the guy even returned it because he thought it was broken.

R2D2 · 02-23-2010, 08:42 PM

Twistoffate,

The instant mpg readings you reported are exactly what I would expect (and get on my own unit). The "instant" setting is exactly what it says-the fuel economy you are achieving that instant, updated every half second. It should read zero when stopped and the reason it can jump to 140-200+ mpg when you release the pedal is DFCO. I don't use the instant setting much as the ecograph around the perimeter of the display accomplishes the same task so I tend to stay on the avg mpg mode.

It sounds like what you want is the average mpg mode which will be more "stable" and will drop while idling at a light.

What you need to do is reset your EFF to about 95% to start. Next fill up reset your average mpg and track it from there. You can fine tune the accuracy with your EFF setting if needed. I also recommend setting the ecograph to display your target mpg which is covered in the instructions.

Review the instructions again and please ask away here if there is something we can clarify or help you out with.
Once you figure it out I think you will be happy with it-there are a bunch of us here with ecometers and they are very liked from what I've seen.

Good luck!

R2

R2D2 · 02-23-2010, 08:46 PM

SD looks like you beat me to it and had it covered!

Thanks!

R2

MadMax · 02-24-2010, 07:48 AM

Garm, are you still selling these? I couldn't find them on your site...

Cheers! M2

Falconia · 02-24-2010, 07:49 AM

Here in Europe Yaris have own computer which shows current xxl/100km, average consumption and average speed.

In USA versions do not have this?

MadMax · 02-24-2010, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Falconia

Here in Europe Yaris have own computer which shows current xxl/100km, average consumption and average speed.

In USA versions do not have this?

Nope; but the BMWs I had in Germany did...

Twistoffate0817 · 02-24-2010, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by R2D2

Twistoffate,

The instant mpg readings you reported are exactly what I would expect (and get on my own unit). The "instant" setting is exactly what it says-the fuel economy you are achieving that instant, updated every half second. It should read zero when stopped and the reason it can jump to 140-200+ mpg when you release the pedal is DFCO. I don't use the instant setting much as the ecograph around the perimeter of the display accomplishes the same task so I tend to stay on the avg mpg mode.

It sounds like what you want is the average mpg mode which will be more "stable" and will drop while idling at a light.

What you need to do is reset your EFF to about 95% to start. Next fill up reset your average mpg and track it from there. You can fine tune the accuracy with your EFF setting if needed. I also recommend setting the ecograph to display your target mpg which is covered in the instructions.

Review the instructions again and please ask away here if there is something we can clarify or help you out with.
Once you figure it out I think you will be happy with it-there are a bunch of us here with ecometers and they are very liked from what I've seen.

Good luck!

R2

Thanks for explaining! :) I will have to play around with it, and today i kept it on Average MPG which I like better. I changed the EFF setting to 70 because at first it was reading too high. I guess i will change it to 95 and keep adjusting after fill ups. Is it safe to leave the ecometer plugged in and left in the car everyday? Its not going to be damaged due to the cold or heat right?

ezhacker1 · 02-24-2010, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sodium Duck

Hmm, interesting idea. Is the MAF sensor cleaner just compressed air to blow the crap off it, or is it something specific that you get at the auto parts store? Do we have only that one MAF sensor by the intake, or is there more than one on the car that would be worth cleaning?

i got it from auto store: Kragen, cost my 6 bucks, its sprays in as liquid but dries super fast, reminds me of rubbing alcohol. If i dont see the ecometer coinciding with actual like before i installed my AFE, ill just remove the afe and go stock to see whats up.

R2D2 · 02-25-2010, 12:35 AM

Twistoffate,

You should be fine leaving it plugged in. Mine has been plugged in every day since I got it through heat and cold with no issues.

R2

ezhacker1 · 02-25-2010, 04:15 AM

but if you do unplug it, it saves the data to memory, so no worries there

pawsplus · 03-05-2010, 03:58 PM

Oooh! Just read this whole thread. I'm gonna have to get me one of these babies! :)

pawsplus · 03-15-2010, 09:58 AM

Got my Ecometer and had a great time trying it out yesterday -- was on the road most of the day so had plenty of opportunity. I really like it! I had no idea how much gas I was using doing certain things -- esp. how much difference it really DOES make to accellerate SLOOOWLY. I love seeing 200 mpg going down hills in DFCO!

Hershey · 03-15-2010, 12:45 PM

+1 .

Twistoffate0817 · 03-17-2010, 06:24 PM

Okay it is official! I love this thing. I am still in my break in period (only 9,500 miles on car) and winter temperatures..and i am averaging 33-34 mpg. Pretty good considering i only do short trips everyday!

1stToyota · 03-24-2010, 09:15 AM

Okay, I know nothing about this autometer...is the cable permanently affixed to the gauge or can it be disconnected/unplugged? It would need to be able to unplug because of the way I would want to mount it if I purchased this.

...and I don't know if it's been mentioned yet because I didn't follow the whole thread but I see that it's cheaper than $52.00

http://www.jcwhitney.com/ecometer/p2...vz4osjhxl4TCB0

zachryboles · 03-24-2010, 09:55 AM

yah it hooks into the OBD port.... plug and play bro. just mount it with something reusable and you should be fine.

1stToyota · 03-24-2010, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by zachryboles

yah it hooks into the OBD port.... plug and play bro. just mount it with something reusable and you should be fine.

Thanks for the reply, but what I was really asking was does it actually unplug @ the gauge/unit itself, or is it wired in permanently? I know that the OBDII port powers the unit. I should have been more clear.

edit: I looked at some photos on the thread...doesn't look like it's removable.

MadMax · 03-24-2010, 11:00 AM

The ecometer itself is attached using velcro, so it can be used on more than one vehicle although I don't know how that works. Hopefully someone who has one has done so, and can explain.

I am contemplating one as well, but would like to use it not only in my Yaris but Jeep Wrangler too!

By the way, with shipping J.C. Whitney comes to $63.83; is there any better prices out there? Garm?

Cheers! M2

02-23-2010, 08:42 PM	#236
R2D2 Crazy Oil Sniffer Drives: MM 09 Yaris 5 Dr LB "Click" Join Date: May 2009 Location: ME Posts: 498	Twistoffate, The instant mpg readings you reported are exactly what I would expect (and get on my own unit). The "instant" setting is exactly what it says-the fuel economy you are achieving that instant, updated every half second. It should read zero when stopped and the reason it can jump to 140-200+ mpg when you release the pedal is DFCO. I don't use the instant setting much as the ecograph around the perimeter of the display accomplishes the same task so I tend to stay on the avg mpg mode. It sounds like what you want is the average mpg mode which will be more "stable" and will drop while idling at a light. What you need to do is reset your EFF to about 95% to start. Next fill up reset your average mpg and track it from there. You can fine tune the accuracy with your EFF setting if needed. I also recommend setting the ecograph to display your target mpg which is covered in the instructions. Review the instructions again and please ask away here if there is something we can clarify or help you out with. Once you figure it out I think you will be happy with it-there are a bunch of us here with ecometers and they are very liked from what I've seen. Good luck! R2 __________________ "The howl was the sound of God’s casting pot, the morphing of my cells into shape, the forming of oceans out of molten premordial plasma. And I could feel it. I could cry for it. I could cry with it." -The Fitful One

02-23-2010, 08:46 PM	#237
R2D2 Crazy Oil Sniffer Drives: MM 09 Yaris 5 Dr LB "Click" Join Date: May 2009 Location: ME Posts: 498	SD looks like you beat me to it and had it covered! Thanks! R2 __________________ "The howl was the sound of God’s casting pot, the morphing of my cells into shape, the forming of oceans out of molten premordial plasma. And I could feel it. I could cry for it. I could cry with it." -The Fitful One

02-24-2010, 07:48 AM	#238
MadMax Drives: 2008 Yaris Liftback (Sprocket) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Antonio, Texas! Posts: 2,799	Garm, are you still selling these? I couldn't find them on your site... Cheers! M2 __________________

02-25-2010, 12:35 AM	#243
R2D2 Crazy Oil Sniffer Drives: MM 09 Yaris 5 Dr LB "Click" Join Date: May 2009 Location: ME Posts: 498	Twistoffate, You should be fine leaving it plugged in. Mine has been plugged in every day since I got it through heat and cold with no issues. R2 __________________ "The howl was the sound of God’s casting pot, the morphing of my cells into shape, the forming of oceans out of molten premordial plasma. And I could feel it. I could cry for it. I could cry with it." -The Fitful One

02-25-2010, 04:15 AM	#244
ezhacker1 Drives: Decepticon - Ravage Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Francisco Posts: 1,462	but if you do unplug it, it saves the data to memory, so no worries there __________________ Check out my Build thread: http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52274

02-24-2010, 07:49 AM	#239
Falconia Drives: Yaris 1,3 -01 Linea Luna Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Finland Posts: 29	Here in Europe Yaris have own computer which shows current xxl/100km, average consumption and average speed. In USA versions do not have this?

03-05-2010, 03:58 PM	#245
pawsplus Drives: 2010 Yaris 3-door liftback Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Columbia, TN Posts: 41	Oooh! Just read this whole thread. I'm gonna have to get me one of these babies! :) __________________ 2010 3-door 5-speed, Meteorite Metallic

03-15-2010, 09:58 AM	#246
pawsplus Drives: 2010 Yaris 3-door liftback Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Columbia, TN Posts: 41	Got my Ecometer and had a great time trying it out yesterday -- was on the road most of the day so had plenty of opportunity. I really like it! I had no idea how much gas I was using doing certain things -- esp. how much difference it really DOES make to accellerate SLOOOWLY. I love seeing 200 mpg going down hills in DFCO! __________________ 2010 3-door 5-speed, Meteorite Metallic Last edited by pawsplus; 03-15-2010 at 12:57 PM.

03-15-2010, 12:45 PM	#247
Hershey Drives: 08 Yaris sedan auto / Fit auto Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: northeast Posts: 2,897	+1 .

03-17-2010, 06:24 PM	#248
Twistoffate0817 My Little Blue Egg :) Drives: '09 3 door Yaris Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Voorhees, NJ Posts: 185	Okay it is official! I love this thing. I am still in my break in period (only 9,500 miles on car) and winter temperatures..and i am averaging 33-34 mpg. Pretty good considering i only do short trips everyday!

03-24-2010, 09:15 AM	#249
1stToyota Drives: 2013 Chevy Spark 1LT 5-speed Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,185	Okay, I know nothing about this autometer...is the cable permanently affixed to the gauge or can it be disconnected/unplugged? It would need to be able to unplug because of the way I would want to mount it if I purchased this. ...and I don't know if it's been mentioned yet because I didn't follow the whole thread but I see that it's cheaper than $52.00 http://www.jcwhitney.com/ecometer/p2...vz4osjhxl4TCB0 __________________ 1997 Lincoln Town Car - *SOLD* 2008 Scion xD (w/ automatic) - SOLD 2008 Yaris HB - SOLD

03-24-2010, 09:55 AM	#250
zachryboles Chunk love Yarii View User's Garage Drives: 2008 Silver 3DR Yaris Liftback Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Ft. Worth, Tx Posts: 331	yah it hooks into the OBD port.... plug and play bro. just mount it with something reusable and you should be fine.

03-24-2010, 11:00 AM	#252
MadMax Drives: 2008 Yaris Liftback (Sprocket) Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: San Antonio, Texas! Posts: 2,799	The ecometer itself is attached using velcro, so it can be used on more than one vehicle although I don't know how that works. Hopefully someone who has one has done so, and can explain. I am contemplating one as well, but would like to use it not only in my Yaris but Jeep Wrangler too! By the way, with shipping J.C. Whitney comes to $63.83; is there any better prices out there? Garm? Cheers! M2 __________________