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11-26-2008, 09:03 PM | #20 |
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offtopic: ^ lived in houston, tx for 3yrs. yes, ac is a must!
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11-26-2008, 09:34 PM | #21 |
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11-26-2008, 09:37 PM | #22 | |
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If you drive on the right side (or the left) of the truck you will get all the wind resistance coming off the front of the truck, this will cause more drag on your car and you'll need to put more strain on the engine to keep at the same speed as the truck, thus using more fuel. As others have also said it is not safe to drive in a trucks blind spot for any amount of time, let alone deliberately staying there. I applaud you for trying to boost your FE, but trust me, use your air con and live a little. If you want to enhance your FE skills check out Bailouts thread by clicking here, start by using Basic FE then work your way up. I hope this helps.
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11-27-2008, 07:14 AM | #25 | |
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Not trying to change your mind, just give you a different perspective. I think my car is a must, but we could sell the car and I could waste 2 hours+ more a day on a Mass transit commute. I could deal with it if I didn't have a choice, just like I think you could live without A/C if you didn't have it. Your body can acclimate to nearly anything if you let it. I personally think A/C is bad for our health and wish it was outright banned or strongly controlled. Stores and offices are insanely cold with their A/C cranked, front doors open when it's only mid 20's in the summer. Someone like you would come here and probably not understand why the A/C is on at all, just like how some people from a desert in Africa would come to Texas and not understand why you're wasting all those resources on A/C. It's all about perspective and what your options are. |
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11-27-2008, 07:17 AM | #26 |
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Don't respect me, respect the masters at CleanMPG. Their are some people in that community who sacrifice every convenience to save every ounce of energy, because they believe it's the right thing to do. I do it mostly to save money, so I don't deserve any respect. It does make it easier to engage in these actions knowing the off shoots are all positive for everyone though.
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11-27-2008, 09:31 AM | #27 | |
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12-23-2008, 10:22 AM | #28 |
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AC and windows
Before the hack there was some great data collected that showed FE with windows open or AC running at various speeds. It showed across the board that the AC used more fuel than driving with the windows open. Bailout has come to the same conclusions and my experience with the Scangauge corroborates it as well.
It's different for different cars, Mythbusters did a show with some SUVs and they got better FE with AC running. But I'm pretty sure this is due to their bigger engines. It can get pretty hot here in Utah too, but 100 degrees here is not the same as 100 degrees in the southeast. I can't say what I'd do there, only the best I could.
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12-23-2008, 01:19 PM | #29 |
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Also, driving alongside the big rig, it might kick up some gravel and stuff from off the road and onto the side of your car. I work in an industrial area where a lot of big rigs drive up and down the street basically all day long. No one working at my company wants to park their personal vehicles on the side of the road because the big rigs kick up gravel and leave tiny dents/paint chips on the sides of cars as they're driving past. I'd rather just use my a/c than deal with paint chips or a possible safety hazard.
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12-23-2008, 06:21 PM | #30 |
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according to mythbusters anything around 30-35 plus = better eficiency with AC versus windows down
Note- **The above statement is one proven by busters of myths, and in no way reflects the opinions of at3gg or his non existent affiliates.**
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12-24-2008, 02:07 AM | #31 | |
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For some reason it seems that most Netizens managed to see that first, incorrect episode but somehow managed to miss the second, corrective one.
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12-24-2008, 02:11 AM | #32 |
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Second one's not on the DVD sets either AFAIK
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12-24-2008, 04:51 PM | #34 |
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YouTube clip please?
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12-24-2008, 06:29 PM | #35 |
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thanks for clarifying it because this is my first thought, both might have negative effects on fuel consumption but i would think lowering down the window is lesser...inihaw, now that i'm living in d best weather socal i don't think i will be using the a/c!
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12-24-2008, 06:51 PM | #36 |
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I was wrong about the episode placement. The more accurate test showing that windows down is better than a/c was actually in the same episode where the computer measurements showed the opposite. I thought it was in a revisited myth episode later in the season, but that was just a "flashback" to that segment used as a lead in to another fuel economy myth.
That episode, or at least those segments, are not on YouTube (likely due to takedown notices - say, "Thank you, DMCA") but here is a Wikipedia page speaking about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBus...._Windows_Down And here is a more in-depth explanation of the episode: http://kwc.org/mythbusters/2004/11/m..._catapult.html (scroll down to "Windows down vs. air conditioning")
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