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cdydjded · 04-03-2007, 04:26 PM

Carrillo & Crower have rods available, JE can make custom pistons & RE has pistons on the shelf. As for the valvetrain I am a Ferrea distributor & if Turboyaris could send me the valves, springs, retainers, locks, seals & spring locators I can have them make us what we need. The only drawback is a minimal of 50-100 sets would have to be made. I am also a JE distributor if someone needs some custom pistons made.

turboyaris · 04-03-2007, 05:19 PM

I was told both made rods for the generic 4cyl toyota engine. I was told it would work on the 1nzfe but I thought I read somewhere that they were discontinued. JE and wiseco both would make custom pistons, I will definately keep you in mind though as the build gets underway. and 50-100 sets or 50-100 items. Sets seems kinda high but I figured 50-100 items might have to be made which would be more like 4-8 sets.

cdydjded · 04-03-2007, 08:26 PM

I can get you Crower 1NZFE rods right now. There is no engine that can use generic rods. You cant use 3SGTE rods in a 4AG. Rods are made specifically per engine model.

slothman86 · 04-03-2007, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black Yaris

How about an easy motor swap?

How about a 20v 4age?

turboyaris · 04-03-2007, 08:49 PM

Quote:

I can get you Crower 1NZFE rods right now. There is no engine that can use generic rods. You cant use 3SGTE rods in a 4AG. Rods are made specifically per engine model.

I know rods are different engine to engine. I misread their website when I was half asleep haha. Anyways what does a pair of the crower rods run?

ChinoCharles · 04-04-2007, 12:50 AM

Drumroll please...

turboyaris · 04-04-2007, 10:31 AM

what am i drumrolling for?

ChinoCharles · 04-04-2007, 10:33 AM

I'm drumrolling for the price on those rods.

eTiMaGo · 04-04-2007, 10:34 AM

arms getting sore yet??? been 10 hours since that post!

ChinoCharles · 04-04-2007, 10:35 AM

Just my left... for some reason my right never gets sore. Hmm.

turboyaris · 04-04-2007, 12:34 PM

i thought you didn't work on cars.... mine doesnt get sour because of turning so many wrenches.. i wonder what yours is from....hmmmmm

eTiMaGo · 04-04-2007, 12:35 PM

he's a guitarist... must be all that strumming.............

turboyaris · 04-04-2007, 12:42 PM

ah yes... and here my dirty mind thought he was strumming something else... its good to see the only website he visits is yarisworld, I have to admit... I got a little worried

Doc Zaius · 04-04-2007, 01:25 PM

How much for the rods?!!

*more drumrolling*

turboyaris · 04-04-2007, 05:46 PM

carillo's are 1400$ for a set, I have been calling a bunch of companies today looking for custom parts and costs, i havent been able to get through to crower. Looks like valvetrain will set us all back quite a bit.

turboyaris · 04-04-2007, 06:51 PM

the drumroll can finally end, I got a hold of Crower, They would be $747 dollars a set. If we can sell 10 sets, it would drop the price to $611 not bad for a set of custom rods. Im not sure why Carrillo are so expensive they would both be made of some type of steel, and before you ask titanium rods would be able $2400 a set. Material prices are astronomical these days. If there is any interest in engine parts please pm me guys, We can get discounts through pretty much every vendor for larger buys.

Doc Zaius · 04-04-2007, 07:13 PM

n00b question: are there any other alloys or options available for pistons/rods? Are the stock ones steel? Probably some of the reason we get such great milage is b/c they ARE so light (and wimpy!) Beefing them up would add mass to the rotating assembly.

turboyaris · 04-04-2007, 08:27 PM

not entirely sure on stock alloys, I know they are a cheap heavy steel usually. Our stock rods look like toothpicks and make me a little uneasy looking at them. Unfortuneatly since everywhere has to custom make these rods, they can't give me a guess on weight. Usually though aftermarket companies use 4340 or 2618 which is just a grade of metal. since we also wont be pushing 800 HP like some of their other customers demand, I would imagine they would keep in mind that weight would be a concern. I haven't found very many times when a stock rod was lighter then an aftermarket rod. If you really want a lot lighter then go with Ti but as you saw that costs way too much money. As far as pistons the biggest difference in aftermarket is forged instead of cast (stock) i may be wrong but the same applies for rods I believe. The same materials generally apply for pistons and as well they are usually lighter then stock. Forged is a better way to make stronger and lighter products instead of cast.

04-04-2007, 10:34 AM	#27
eTiMaGo vroom vroom View User's Garage Drives: lil red 5-door Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 7,744	arms getting sore yet??? been 10 hours since that post! __________________ The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish. - Robert Jackson Bye bye 1NZ...

04-04-2007, 12:35 PM	#30
eTiMaGo vroom vroom View User's Garage Drives: lil red 5-door Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 7,744	he's a guitarist... must be all that strumming............. __________________ The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish. - Robert Jackson Bye bye 1NZ...

04-04-2007, 01:25 PM	#32
Doc Zaius Lurker supreme! View User's Garage Drives: old and boosted! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada Posts: 792	How much for the rods?!! more drumrolling __________________ 2006 Red Blitzed RS 5-door

04-04-2007, 07:13 PM	#35
Doc Zaius Lurker supreme! View User's Garage Drives: old and boosted! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Ottawa, ON, Canada Posts: 792	n00b question: are there any other alloys or options available for pistons/rods? Are the stock ones steel? Probably some of the reason we get such great milage is b/c they ARE so light (and wimpy!) Beefing them up would add mass to the rotating assembly. __________________ 2006 Red Blitzed RS 5-door

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04-03-2007, 04:26 PM	#19
cdydjded Drives: Yaris LB Turbo Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Miami FL Posts: 782	Carrillo & Crower have rods available, JE can make custom pistons & RE has pistons on the shelf. As for the valvetrain I am a Ferrea distributor & if Turboyaris could send me the valves, springs, retainers, locks, seals & spring locators I can have them make us what we need. The only drawback is a minimal of 50-100 sets would have to be made. I am also a JE distributor if someone needs some custom pistons made.

04-03-2007, 05:19 PM	#20
turboyaris Drives: 2007 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Southern New Jersey Posts: 459	I was told both made rods for the generic 4cyl toyota engine. I was told it would work on the 1nzfe but I thought I read somewhere that they were discontinued. JE and wiseco both would make custom pistons, I will definately keep you in mind though as the build gets underway. and 50-100 sets or 50-100 items. Sets seems kinda high but I figured 50-100 items might have to be made which would be more like 4-8 sets.

04-03-2007, 08:26 PM	#21
cdydjded Drives: Yaris LB Turbo Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Miami FL Posts: 782	I can get you Crower 1NZFE rods right now. There is no engine that can use generic rods. You cant use 3SGTE rods in a 4AG. Rods are made specifically per engine model.

04-04-2007, 12:50 AM	#24
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	Drumroll please...

04-04-2007, 10:31 AM	#25
turboyaris Drives: 2007 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Southern New Jersey Posts: 459	what am i drumrolling for?

04-04-2007, 10:33 AM	#26
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	I'm drumrolling for the price on those rods.

04-04-2007, 10:35 AM	#28
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	Just my left... for some reason my right never gets sore. Hmm.

04-04-2007, 12:34 PM	#29
turboyaris Drives: 2007 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Southern New Jersey Posts: 459	i thought you didn't work on cars.... mine doesnt get sour because of turning so many wrenches.. i wonder what yours is from....hmmmmm

04-04-2007, 12:42 PM	#31
turboyaris Drives: 2007 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Southern New Jersey Posts: 459	ah yes... and here my dirty mind thought he was strumming something else... its good to see the only website he visits is yarisworld, I have to admit... I got a little worried

04-04-2007, 05:46 PM	#33
turboyaris Drives: 2007 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Southern New Jersey Posts: 459	carillo's are 1400$ for a set, I have been calling a bunch of companies today looking for custom parts and costs, i havent been able to get through to crower. Looks like valvetrain will set us all back quite a bit.

04-04-2007, 06:51 PM	#34
turboyaris Drives: 2007 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Southern New Jersey Posts: 459	the drumroll can finally end, I got a hold of Crower, They would be $747 dollars a set. If we can sell 10 sets, it would drop the price to $611 not bad for a set of custom rods. Im not sure why Carrillo are so expensive they would both be made of some type of steel, and before you ask titanium rods would be able $2400 a set. Material prices are astronomical these days. If there is any interest in engine parts please pm me guys, We can get discounts through pretty much every vendor for larger buys.

04-04-2007, 08:27 PM	#36
turboyaris Drives: 2007 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Southern New Jersey Posts: 459	not entirely sure on stock alloys, I know they are a cheap heavy steel usually. Our stock rods look like toothpicks and make me a little uneasy looking at them. Unfortuneatly since everywhere has to custom make these rods, they can't give me a guess on weight. Usually though aftermarket companies use 4340 or 2618 which is just a grade of metal. since we also wont be pushing 800 HP like some of their other customers demand, I would imagine they would keep in mind that weight would be a concern. I haven't found very many times when a stock rod was lighter then an aftermarket rod. If you really want a lot lighter then go with Ti but as you saw that costs way too much money. As far as pistons the biggest difference in aftermarket is forged instead of cast (stock) i may be wrong but the same applies for rods I believe. The same materials generally apply for pistons and as well they are usually lighter then stock. Forged is a better way to make stronger and lighter products instead of cast.