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I agree - had a TR7 5spd and a Ford Feista 4sp in the 80's-early90's.
inherited a "new" acura in 93 - through today. the MOST BORING driving car in earth! - yes it as an automatic. every minute of every day these last 15 yrs I've loathed its pamping ways! It I want a lazyboy - I'll buy the chair plop in in from of a TV. For the road I want to DRIVE and not simply "ride" as you say. I fear the love of "convienence" is the American way. When we have automatic toilet flushers and motorized towel dispensor I KNOW the song "In the year 2525" should our new National Anthem - that day is here ;-/. the rest of the world understands our love of driving. |
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06-08-2007, 01:32 PM | #26 |
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If they didnt have the liftback in a manual when i was at the dealer - i would not have bought it. If someone gave me it in an auto - it would be sitting in the driveway. The cars not fast - but its fun. In an auto yaris, i'd probably be so bored that i'd fall asleep and injure someone. So my manual is safe and fun for everybody.
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06-08-2007, 07:44 PM | #27 |
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That's why I prefer the auto...it kicks down instantly giving the most power it has available when merging and passing, not requiring the nut behind the wheel (ME) to instantly find the proper gear in a (sometimes) emergency situation. Now going thru the twisties is another matter!!!!
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Well, I've always driven a stick, and that's what I wanted when I went out shopping for my Yaris.
But the dealer only had one Yaris, and it was an automatic! Guess what? After struggling with whether to buy it all day, I finally said okay. Best decision I could have made. I have to say... I love the automatic! It's quiet, responsive, upshifts and downshifts flawlessly, and it's fun to drive. Hey, the gas mileage is basically the same as the stick. With high-tech automatics like this, I don't think I'll ever go back to stick. |
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The only automatic I like is my VW, Passat, 4 Motion. Why, because I can bang the stick like a manual. Hey, I am not a kid and can remember the 60's. If you like the auto good on you, but I will stick with da stick! |
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06-08-2007, 08:26 PM | #31 |
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Hey, Blacksan, we seem to be having a few conversations going here!
Anyway, I grew up in Canada, and I owned and rebuilt every British sport car you can think of from Bug-eye Sprites to E-type Jags to Sunbeam Tigers. Don't get me wrong, I love sticks. Heck, I still own and drive a couple and I wouldn't trade them for automatics. But, this Yaris automatic is really a great little tranny. I'm just so surprised how well it performs. |
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06-08-2007, 10:43 PM | #34 |
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I bought a manual for 2 reasons:
1) I live in a mountainous area and have a mountainous commute, and nothing trashes an automatic transmission faster than listening to it fighting with itself over which gear to hold on quickly changing grades. Sure, you can always force it into a gear, but if I'm handling the shifter like that I may as well just have a standard and have full control all of the time. 2) I bought the Yaris with the specific plan of hypermiling it, and a manual transmission makes things like extended engine braking for a fuel cut-off, bump starting in a high gear, RPM matching for ICE re-entry after a FAS, Pulse & Glide, etc. much easier to accomplish. My record tank so far was 52.095 MPG. I don't think I could have done quite that well with an automatic.
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yes but your body requires more organic food to shift those gears and also this causes your body to have to work harder leading to more use of the a/c and not to mention the fuel it takes to grow/deliver that organic food that you eat and the truck that gets it to the grocery store and the energy to keep it fresh and so on and so fourth
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It takes no more fuel to get my groceries to me than it does to get yours to you. The sad fact is most of us don't get local food, and you definitely aren't getting any local food at all if you get your groceries at Wal-Mart. The only time I'm sure I'm getting local food is from the seasonal farmer's markets. You burned a few milligrams of brain-food glucose, and at least 1 calorie with your fingers, making that post, by the way. Not very efficient of you!
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