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05-15-2011, 08:48 PM | #19 | |
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Give you full control over which gear you're in Give you engine braking Have less frictional losses Are lighter in weight Internals will longer, not counting the clutch Usually handle higher power levels
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05-15-2011, 10:25 PM | #20 |
Only Timing Chains
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I just read about a toyota truck owner that had 258k on original clutch, this was coming from the Toyota owner's website, of course there is no way to prove validity, but if true, that says a lot.
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05-15-2011, 10:35 PM | #21 |
I ain't even mad
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Implying it isn't completely worn but he just kept it on because he can.
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05-15-2011, 10:58 PM | #22 |
Only Timing Chains
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Correct.
I've had clutches fail before and when they fail, it is near impossible to drive the car unless going downhill. If he is truly on original clutch, it must still be doing what it is required to do to function properly. Of course it has worn over all those miles, but engines wear as well, just because it has wear doesn't mean that it requires replacement or we'd all be continuously replacing all parts on vehicles. A clutch is also considered a wearable part as are brakes and tires. If you burn your clutch under warranty, they won't replace it as it *should* last longer than 120k miles as it is never specified in factory maintenance manual as needing replacement. Longevity is based upon the quality of the driver. |
05-16-2011, 03:20 AM | #23 |
91octane $2.24nzd / litre
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No never......
It's the wifes car, she gets into it at the end of a hard days work and puts it into D, no brainer for her. O BTW it's a CVT too. Fuel economy is a small price to pay for ease of driving for her. |
05-16-2011, 03:36 AM | #24 | |
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i will drive MT as long as i can and i really loved the yaris MT vs AT
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05-16-2011, 03:32 PM | #25 |
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My 1988 Toyota truck's clutch had 180,000 miles on it when I had to have it replaced only because my rear seal was leaking and contaminated the clutch. And this even after I had burned it twice (lots of smoke and smell).
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05-16-2011, 11:11 PM | #26 |
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everytime i get smell from mine (not often and not alot) im so scared, lol
i have never gotten smoke
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05-17-2011, 08:09 AM | #27 |
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At one time in my life I thought that I would never own an auto. Now that I am an old fart I don't think that I will ever drive a stick again.
Had shoulder surgery 8 weeks ago on the right side and the auto was blessing. Not sure that I would have been able to drive a stick.
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05-17-2011, 08:14 AM | #28 |
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I had an 88 Sr5 truck that had 200,000 miles on the clutch when it was sold. A friend who put on oversize tires only got 65,000 on his clutch. Early clutch failure is due to people not knowing how to drive a clutch.
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05-17-2011, 12:24 PM | #29 |
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I drove a MT LB as a rental before purchasing a 2007 AT Sedan.
My only beef with the AT is not shifting beyond 2nd until the engine heats up. It is annoying on cold mornings. Plenty of threads discussing this... I was pleasantly surprised to get great mileage with the AT (49 MPG plus). MTs can be fun to drive, but the AT sure is convenient. |
05-17-2011, 12:45 PM | #30 | |
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By the time I got my second manual vehicle (the 1988 truck), I had learned to heel-and-toe and I wonder if that helped save the clutch quite a bit... |
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05-17-2011, 06:17 PM | #31 |
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Double clutching also saves the clutch. No riding it, as well. The only time I wish I didn't have a manual is in traffic- but I avoid most traffic so it's all
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05-19-2011, 05:38 PM | #32 |
Drives: 2010 Yaris LB Join Date: Jan 2011
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I prefer a MT on most vehicles, but I purposely bought my Yaris with the AT. I do a lot of freeway driving, but every once in a while, I get caught in Seattle stop-and-go traffic. Going through that with a MT is enough to make anyone crazy.
I'll take the MPG hit (if there is any) for the comfort of driving the auto. I must say, it is a nice shifting transmission. |
05-19-2011, 10:09 PM | #33 | |
Nothing beats a Toyota!
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In the end, its all relative to what you think and believe. You obviously have a different opinion as do I. In our own worlds, we can both be correct!
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05-19-2011, 10:30 PM | #34 |
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I drive my MT Yaris from San Diego to Los Angeles and back 2-3 times a week(about 280 miles round trip). It takes me 2.5 hours to get there and about 3.25 hours to get home...I wouldn't trade the MT for an auto, especially now that I have the complete short shift kit.
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05-20-2011, 02:17 AM | #35 |
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During the cold days I absolutely hate waiting for my engine to warm up and allow the AT into higher gears. On those days, I would love to have a MT. With that exception, AT is just fine for me.
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05-20-2011, 07:47 AM | #36 | |
Only Timing Chains
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As a Motor Pool Officer, what did you do specifically and what do U.S. Army motor pool consist of? What do they buy in MT? Do you think that the MTs would be especially dogged due to having many drivers (and ones that don't regularly drive MT) or are most vehicles assigned to one driver for most of its use? Do you think a Motor Pool Officer in a European Countries' Army would say the opposite (conjecture, but due to Europeans buying mainly MT)? As for maintenance, yea I'd rather pull a dipstick and check ATF in comparison to the unbolting check bolt and fingering gearbox, anyday. What do you think about higher end cars (mercedes-benz, etc) that have the MT as an optional extra? I appreciate your position and insights as I've never had correspondence with someone who worked with pools of motors. Cheers |
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