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04-24-2009, 02:18 PM | #19 |
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We should just have all the professional auto X members post thier entire suspention setup and thier results. And it gives a good platform for people new to base thier setup on.
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04-24-2009, 02:21 PM | #20 |
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Do the alignment on the cheap (I've never paid to have my Yaris aligned). Slot the lower strut holes, no need for camber bolts.
Swaybar would be good. Okay, let's clarify the formula and make it repeatable:
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04-24-2009, 02:29 PM | #21 |
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I remember when i used to work in a alignment shop cars would come in and they would specifically request not to touch thier camber even though it was negative only adjust the toe.
How much of a difference do you think the tire wear will be. Like 5 percent 10 percent 20 percent more wear? Sure you should not be too concerned if you are going to be aggresive especially if you are going to auto x and go through tires very quickly. But just from a curiouse standpoint as well for a daily driver im asking cause you are one of the few experience members when it comes to suspention. As there are other members who are strong on stereo etc..
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Agressive TOE settings are what chew up tires. Toe PLUS camber is a bad combination, and will make it look like the camber is the problem, but it isn't. This is the typical situation when a car is lowered and not aligned. Most suspensions are designed such that camber goes negative when the car is lowered... side effect is that toe also goes WAY out of spec (goes out if the tie rods are on the back side of the axle, in if they're in the front). If you correct the toe to zero, as long as you're not doing cross-country interstate road trips and never exploring curves, that will take care of your wear issues. If you're not the kind of driver who's going to push the car a little bit in the turns pretty regularly, you shouldn't even be reading this thread! |
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04-24-2009, 03:09 PM | #23 |
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Was there a lot of aftermarket support when the Civic had been out only 3 years?
I know the Yaris has been sold overseas for a number of years, but considering that the USDM is new, I think there is pretty good range of product support so far. Give it ten years...
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04-24-2009, 03:26 PM | #24 | |
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results are relative in autocross
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04-24-2009, 03:47 PM | #26 |
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Talking about Yaris potential... and a little off topic as well but,
People haven't put much attention to the 2ZR-FE swap due to the lack of appeal of it's not very impressive performance... However, this power plant transforms the Yaris completely... and it should be pretty much a drop in swap if you can get a salvaged Scion xD engine and ECU. This should be easy in a couple of years. The 1.8L will put down up to 125WHP and a very linear 120Tq with the current bolt on mods available (Intake/ exhaust/ UPulley). I can tell you that people who jumps in for a ride on a twisty road on my car, can't believe what the little bean can do. And I'm not by any means a very skilled driver... just a little above the average I would say. And I agree with Loren... No need to spend a lot of money on suspension... $800 Tein Basics Coilovers $150 TRD sway bar OE 17" heavy ass Toyota wheels $400 Azenis RT-615 (215/40/17) $25 camber bolts The extra TQ of this engine has no problem moving the heavy ass wheels and tires... But some light weight 16's are on my future plans. |
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what, 1979? LMFAO
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04-24-2009, 09:00 PM | #28 |
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A magazine did a test with a Yaris sedan. They just used Tein SS coilovers and racing slicks. I think they pulled either 1.05 or 1.08 g's. No other mods, just the coilovers, rims, and tires.
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c'mon what's taking you guys so long? busy buying short shifters and underdrive pullies?
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Being a college student. LOL. No money for anything, even REAL food.
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04-24-2009, 09:21 PM | #31 | |
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refer to my first post then?
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04-24-2009, 11:23 PM | #33 |
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So maybe I'm the only one who thinks this way, but I'm perfectly happy just bolting stuff on my Yaris, having fun with it, and not worrying about anything. I don't need numbers and data to convince me that my car is fun. I don't even care if some guy with a Scion and a turbo kit thinks he's better than me because of it. What is this "next level" anyway? It must be the place where my car can smoke Evos and still get 50mpg.
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04-24-2009, 11:48 PM | #34 |
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I sort of agree, I don't get too hung up on the numbers as long as the car does what I want it to do. Part of what I want it to do is handle well enough to be competitive (or at least damned frustrating to people with "faster" cars) in autocross and other events. The only reason I know the lateral G's my car can pull is that it was part of a competition that I did. Were it not for that, all I'd know is that "it handles really well".
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04-24-2009, 11:54 PM | #35 |
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I this thread.
This community needs a few things: 1. Some exposure 2. More willing buyers 3. A viable piggyback tuning option 4. A formula and/or bolt on kit for reliable boost 5. Cheaper, more available upgrades geared toward 4: pistons, cams, head gasket, intake manifolds etc etc For now Garm is going to be the blueprint. I'm trying to show what NOT to do () and the supercharged people can wave while the turbo people pass them. Sorry guys, but I truly think you're all crazy. Still love ya though. |
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so explain how garm is the blueprint, when none of you (arguably) will follow in his footsteps? and what about all the xa and xb "blueprints" floating around? i'm not tooting my own horn, just asking a viable question, since garm is basically just reverting to an xb/xa/echo powerplant...
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