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Old 02-26-2009, 02:32 PM   #1
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i use only zx1 additive for motor oil and gear oil
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Old 02-27-2009, 10:57 AM   #2
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Doesnt make much sense to use this expensive product (zMax) to maybe get a little better fuel economy,as for making the engine last longerthe Yaris engine with proper maintenance will easily achieve 300k without this additive, as for adding poweradding this stuff over the life of the Yaris it would probably be cheaper to buy a used V8 Mustang.
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Old 02-05-2009, 06:10 PM   #3
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chevron techron gas only contains 1oz of techron for 55000 gallons of gasoline might as well not be there. however if you want to clean up your engine something fierce, I recommend using the whole 12oz in your tank, it wont hurt your engine.

there is also a cleaner that will clean out your entire engine of carbon buildup better then techron or any of the popular brand cleaners, was designed to be clean for marine use, cant remember the name at the moment. It requires some knowhow though, You put it into the engine directly through a vacuumme line at about 3k rpm then when it drains the can you instantly shot of the engine and let it sit for about 30 - 60 minutes.
after this you are good to restart the engine, there will be lots of white smoke, dont worry your engine is fine it is just the product and carbon buildup exiting out the exhaust. After the procedure change your oil withing the next 100 miles.
once again this is the most intense and best method to get rid of the carbon buildup in the engine, but I wouldnt recomend it for any car with less then 150k miles on it, unless your car has been running rich and you are now failing smog for high NOx
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Old 02-06-2009, 09:27 AM   #4
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chevron techron gas only contains 1oz of techron for 55000 gallons of gasoline might as well not be there. however if you want to clean up your engine something fierce, I recommend using the whole 12oz in your tank, it wont hurt your engine.

there is also a cleaner that will clean out your entire engine of carbon buildup better then techron or any of the popular brand cleaners, was designed to be clean for marine use, cant remember the name at the moment. It requires some knowhow though, You put it into the engine directly through a vacuumme line at about 3k rpm then when it drains the can you instantly shot of the engine and let it sit for about 30 - 60 minutes.
after this you are good to restart the engine, there will be lots of white smoke, dont worry your engine is fine it is just the product and carbon buildup exiting out the exhaust. After the procedure change your oil withing the next 100 miles.
once again this is the most intense and best method to get rid of the carbon buildup in the engine, but I wouldnt recomend it for any car with less then 150k miles on it, unless your car has been running rich and you are now failing smog for high NOx
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Old 02-06-2009, 12:28 PM   #5
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Seafoam...
that was it =P
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Old 02-09-2009, 12:32 AM   #6
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chevron techron gas only contains 1oz of techron for 55000 gallons of gasoline might as well not be there. however if you want to clean up your engine something fierce, I recommend using the whole 12oz in your tank, it wont hurt your engine.

there is also a cleaner that will clean out your entire engine of carbon buildup better then techron or any of the popular brand cleaners, was designed to be clean for marine use, cant remember the name at the moment. It requires some knowhow though, You put it into the engine directly through a vacuumme line at about 3k rpm then when it drains the can you instantly shot of the engine and let it sit for about 30 - 60 minutes.
after this you are good to restart the engine, there will be lots of white smoke, dont worry your engine is fine it is just the product and carbon buildup exiting out the exhaust. After the procedure change your oil withing the next 100 miles.
once again this is the most intense and best method to get rid of the carbon buildup in the engine, but I wouldnt recomend it for any car with less then 150k miles on it, unless your car has been running rich and you are now failing smog for high NOx

I think what you are thinking about is seafoam. My auto shop sells those services for 60 dollars. I can tell it makes a massive difference before and after. Also you can simply add a can to your tank of gas and it will clean the injectors and pistons still. I put one in a friends car and the exhaust started to smoke after a few minutes from the carbon being removed.

I would reccomend doing that service every 30k miles. To keep your engine running clean as possible. I have noticed every time the car has very minimal amount of smoke i ask them what kind of gas they use. They always say chevron. One car had 180k miles and there was no smoke. Well just one baby puff. One car with 30k miles who ran only cosco gas the car stalled out so many times from the massive amount of carbon the smoke traveled out past our shop into the street and nearly caused a pileup as it was so dense. We had to drive it around the local neighborhood trying to to get it to clear up but it was smoking for atleast 15 minutes. When we got it back to the shop we had to let it idle for a hour before it stopped smoking. I have never seen anything like it in my life. Since then i made it my mission to advise all my customers to stay away from discount gasoline. ANd belive me this customer after witnessing himself the effects will never use it too. Man did that car run smooth afterwards though. Idle went perfect the car had a lot more pep.
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Old 03-27-2009, 08:07 AM   #7
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there is also a cleaner that will clean out your entire engine of carbon buildup better then techron or any of the popular brand cleaners, was designed to be clean for marine use, cant remember the name at the moment. It requires some knowhow though, You put it into the engine directly through a vacuumme line at about 3k rpm then when it drains the can you instantly shot of the engine and let it sit for about 30 - 60 minutes.
after this you are good to restart the engine, there will be lots of white smoke, dont worry your engine is fine it is just the product and carbon buildup exiting out the exhaust. After the procedure change your oil withing the next 100 miles.
once again this is the most intense and best method to get rid of the carbon buildup in the engine, but I wouldnt recomend it for any car with less then 150k miles on it, unless your car has been running rich and you are now failing smog for high NOx
Nothing new about that, it's a real throwback. Those carbon cleaning solvents, under numerous brand names, were popular in the old days before emission controls. Usual advice was to remove the air cleaner and pour it straight in while holding the throttle open to rev the engine, pouring the last bit in fast enough to kill the engine. After letting the warm engine sit with this stuff in it for a few minutes, you restarted the engine, revved it with the smoking, misfiring and backfiring till it smoothed out enough to drive, then took it out on the road to progressively run it up faster till it started missing, hold it till it smoothed out, then gun it up some more. Then you immediately changed the oil and the spark plugs, as the oil would be diluted with solvent and the plugs would have all kinds of gunk on them from the deposits loosened in the combustion chamber. Following that procedure will quickly overheat a catalytic converter and will set error codes in an ECU, and would not generally be recommended for modern cars. But it sure will get a lot of carbon buildup out of combustion chambers.
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Old 03-28-2009, 02:40 AM   #8
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Your thinking of Seafoam.


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Nothing new about that, it's a real throwback. Those carbon cleaning solvents, under numerous brand names, were popular in the old days before emission controls. Usual advice was to remove the air cleaner and pour it straight in while holding the throttle open to rev the engine, pouring the last bit in fast enough to kill the engine. After letting the warm engine sit with this stuff in it for a few minutes, you restarted the engine, revved it with the smoking, misfiring and backfiring till it smoothed out enough to drive, then took it out on the road to progressively run it up faster till it started missing, hold it till it smoothed out, then gun it up some more. Then you immediately changed the oil and the spark plugs, as the oil would be diluted with solvent and the plugs would have all kinds of gunk on them from the deposits loosened in the combustion chamber. Following that procedure will quickly overheat a catalytic converter and will set error codes in an ECU, and would not generally be recommended for modern cars. But it sure will get a lot of carbon buildup out of combustion chambers.
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Old 03-29-2009, 12:52 AM   #9
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Not exactly. I'm saying that Seafoam sounds just like the old common carbon cleaners.

I've been doing some Googling on topics related to intake valve and combustion chamber deposits, cleaners, fuel detergents (which actually are responsible for some common deposits, strange as that may seem), and a light went off over my head when I read about "carbon knock" or "carbon rap." Sounds just like the annoying cold engine knocking I never successfully tracked down or fixed on my old 1995 Mercury Villager, and which is starting to appear on the 1998 one I still have. I may be using something like Seafoam before long.
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Old 02-06-2009, 10:26 AM   #10
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BG makes a great product that the Toyota dealership uses. I have used them various cars with favorable results. Ask your parts guy about the BG fuel system cleaner (runs through the gas tank).
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BG makes a great product that the Toyota dealership uses. I have used them various cars with favorable results. Ask your parts guy about the BG fuel system cleaner (runs through the gas tank).
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Old 02-07-2009, 09:12 AM   #13
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Old 02-06-2009, 05:42 PM   #14
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lucas is amazing stuff. I use the gas treatment off and on to keep everything clean. The car runs smoother and I get better mileage.

I also used lucas oil stabilizer for the engine and transmission in my older corolla - it smoothed out rough idling and shifting. I haven't put any in the yaris because I've been running synthetic oil since day 1.

My friend couldn't shift his old beater into gear, poured some lucas in the tranny, and drove off...

As for gas I like chevron and shell. There is a noticeable difference in power and mileage over pretty much everyone else. I avoid arco like the plague.(I know about 10 people who have gotten "bad gas" and had to drain their tanks)
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Old 02-08-2009, 05:37 PM   #15
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OK, I got some Lucas UCL and put some in today. Let's see how she does at the end of the week. Zooooooooooooooooooooooom
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Old 02-08-2009, 10:36 PM   #16
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Great! Give it a couple of tanks to start working.
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Old 02-09-2009, 06:59 AM   #17
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Great! Give it a couple of tanks to start working.
Right on. It's cheaper than I thought, too. I got a 32 ouncer for $10. At 3-4 oz./tank that's only $1 a dose or so.
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Old 02-25-2009, 05:58 PM   #18
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Great! Give it a couple of tanks to start working.
I realize it's too soon but I wanted to bump up the thread. After 1st fill...no difference but didn't expect it. My 2d fill will be in a few days but can't really predict what I'll get just yet. I've just been trying to maintain a solid conservative driving style each time to keep some consistency. We'll see...I'm still optimistic.
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