Toyota working on Yaris Hybrid

[Shroomster]

Originally Posted by GeneW

Since you've opened the floor for discussion how about citing just one?

Even windmills pollute - in their production phase. They also injure wildlife. If they work at all, since the wind doesn't blow all of the time.

What else? Coal? Geothermal? Hydroelectric? Nuclear fission?

Ain't no such thing, it's just degrees of damage.

Gene

technically newton's law of equal/opposite reactions... lol

[CtrlAltDefeat]

Originally Posted by GeneW

Since you've opened the floor for discussion how about citing just one?

Even windmills pollute - in their production phase. They also injure wildlife. If they work at all, since the wind doesn't blow all of the time.

What else? Coal? Geothermal? Hydroelectric? Nuclear fission?

Ain't no such thing, it's just degrees of damage.

Gene

Well what is truly needed is efficiency. Even the most efficient solar cells are pathetic. The more efficient the energy production and energy storage is, the less the impact on the environment. Nano technology is my personal ray of hope when it comes to building efficient systems. As far as citing one, I don't believe they exist yet. I did see a type of nano aluminum catalyst that could split hydrogen and oxygen from water without the need for additional electricity to do it. If that worked out we could probably say goodbye to all carbon based fuels... It's a small hope though, seeing as information about the manufacture of the aluminum and the exact process are scarce...

[nemelek]

Doing some simple math and making some basic assumptions the hybrid Yaris wouldn't work for me. The hybrid would be 6,000 to 7,000 more than the same non-hybrid car. I drive 10,000 miles a year. In 10 years 100,000 miles at 40 mpg I would use 2,500 gallons of gas for the yaris I have now. 50 mpg for the hybrid I would use 2,000 gallons. The 500gallons saved at 3/gallon would save me $1,500 in fuel. If the hybrid got 100 mpg it would take 20 years for me to recoup the price difference.