So here's my 25K service.

[IllusionX]

this is weird... Actually, i've never did regular oil change at a toyota dealer..

My echo always had mobile1 oil change at every 5000miles/8000km. I did it myself all the time.

With the yaris, i never really had that much time to spend on it when i first got my car.. so i had it done at the dealer.. mobile1 also... here's what it says... (sorry, it's in french! :) ) And ignore the key, i bought a spare key at that time...

[AlexNet0]

Originally Posted by RUFFSTUFF

So somehow you think it takes more time to do it yourself? I guess if you don't know what you are doing or you live next to an oil change place and there's never a line...

It takes me more time to do it myself, because there are no lines at the quick change drive through I go to sometimes, and while im waiting the 5 minutes they take to do it (absolute tops), I can be on the phone with customers.

its worth to me the extra 6 dollars.

[ddongbap]

Originally Posted by SilverGlow

Your comment makes little sense.

So waiting for your turn at JippyLube, or the dealship is saving time and money?

If you are worried about time and money, you'd change the oil yourself, and have it done in less time on most occassions.

And while you're waiting for Jippy Lube to get to your car, there you are waiting and doing little productive.

To save time and money do it yourself.

In addition, for the price Jippy and dealerships charge for convetional oil, you can do it yourself and use synthetic and since synthetic oil can be use 50% to 100% longer intervals, you save money there too because you perform less oil changes.

15 minutes takes care of oil, filter, and disposal.

If theres a line, you can always go to the 1092309123 locations in So-Cal.

Originally Posted by AlexNet0

It takes me more time to do it myself, because there are no lines at the quick change drive through I go to sometimes, and while im waiting the 5 minutes they take to do it (absolute tops), I can be on the phone with customers.

its worth to me the extra 6 dollars.

My point exactly. It works better for him.

Now, granted I sometimes go to Jiffy Lube just cause I'm just lazy. And now I'm running Neo oil, and I don't plan to EVER do an oil change anymore. (It was a joke. Stop your qqing.)

Lol. "Jippylube". Cute.

[DerFlosser]

Originally Posted by SilverGlow

Your comment makes little sense.

So waiting for your turn at JippyLube, or the dealship is saving time and money?

If you are worried about time and money, you'd change the oil yourself, and have it done in less time on most occassions.

And while you're waiting for Jippy Lube to get to your car, there you are waiting and doing little productive.

To save time and money do it yourself.

In addition, for the price Jippy and dealerships charge for convetional oil, you can do it yourself and use synthetic and since synthetic oil can be use 50% to 100% longer intervals, you save money there too because you perform less oil changes.

100% correct.

[ddongbap]

Originally Posted by DerFlosser

100% correct.

Thats purely opinion.

[supmet]

If any oil change is done quicker than 30 minutes, you're doing it wrong. I've had oil still dripping at 25 minutes.

Whatever though, your car, pay more for a worse oil change.

[ddongbap]

Originally Posted by supmet

If any oil change is done quicker than 30 minutes, you're doing it wrong. I've had oil still dripping at 25 minutes.

Whatever though, your car, pay more for a worse oil change.

Though that may be true, the warmer your engine is, the faster the oil will exit your car.

Id assume that if you've been doing oil changes at the right intervals, a little left over won't matter.

[supmet]

Originally Posted by ddongbap

That again, is an opinion. Even tho its pretty narrow minded and very qqish.

Did you just find the urban dictionary definition of qq? Its like your favorite phrase these days.. Kinda makes you sound like the kids I play on counter strike.

Expand my mind and tell me how leaving more dirty oil in your engine, and paying more for this service is a good thing.

edit: I see by your ninja edit you realize how dumb saying qq is... lol

edit edit: your ninja edit makes a good point though... in the real world, most jiffy lube places/ dealerships will have a car or 2 ahead of you... IF you are lucky enough to make it out in 15 minutes(the 1% demographic) you are right. But those that sit 15 minutes before their car even goes in, the oil is colder, and even less oil comes out.

[ddongbap]

Originally Posted by supmet

Did you just find the urban dictionary definition of qq? Its like your favorite phrase these days.. Kinda makes you sound like the kids I play on counter strike.

Expand my mind and tell me how leaving more dirty oil in your engine, and paying more for this service is a good thing.

edit: I see by your ninja edit you realize how dumb saying qq is... lol

edit edit: your ninja edit makes a good point though... in the real world, most jiffy lube places/ dealerships will have a car or 2 ahead of you... IF you are lucky enough to make it out in 15 minutes(the 1% demographic) you are right. But those that sit 15 minutes before their car even goes in, the oil is colder, and even less oil comes out.

You don't see. I ninja edited cause I didn't wanna come off mean. But oh well.

Anyways, if you change your oil enough, then whatever oil you have left will just be drowned out by your new oil. No matter how long you wait, theres no way you can get every single drip of oil out of your car. So you saying what you said is kinda dumb. Oil will be in the car. It will just be mixed with the new oil, then drained again at your next oil change interval.

You missed the part about how I said theres nearly a Jiffy Lube around every corner. You can also keep your engine on. And you've no actual proof that theres a 1% demographic. And don't tell me that isn't true. You're in Socal also. You've seen them.

So lets just keep making stuff up, as well as assume that I found something "Dumb".

BTW, QQ is a World of Warcraft term. Where the average player age is 28. So please, assume more. Makes you look ever awesome.

[ddongbap]

Anyways, I see your point in w/e you're saying. I just don't agree with it.

Idk why you're adding your opinions like "worse oil change" and stuff like that. Opinions are opinions. Unless you're going to come and prove to me that theres scientific proof that it is indeed worse, then idk.

Anyways, qq or not. gg.

[DerFlosser]

Originally Posted by supmet

If any oil change is done quicker than 30 minutes, you're doing it wrong. I've had oil still dripping at 25 minutes.

Whatever though, your car, pay more for a worse oil change.

I agree with this...I usually let my oil for ATLEAST an hour and that's on a piping hot motor. Let it drain and do something productive....while getting a better oil change.

[RUFFSTUFF]

Do you think that by letting it drip for 30min to an hour you are getting all the old oil out of the motor? Hmmm... good one there. If you're a big baller try this... change your oil and, of course, let it drip drip drip for an hour. After completing the oil change with fresh oil, run your motor for a couple of minutes and then [insert dramatic drum roll here] drain your oil again. You may be surprised what you see in your oil drain pan...

[ddongbap]

Originally Posted by RUFFSTUFF

Do you think that by letting it drip for 30min to an hour you are getting all the old oil out of the motor? Hmmm... good one there. If you're a big baller try this... change your oil and, of course, let it drip drip drip for an hour. After completing the oil change with fresh oil, run your motor for a couple of minutes and then [insert dramatic drum roll here] drain your oil again. You may be surprised what you see in your oil drain pan...

Might as well try to get an engine flush in there too. lol.

[RUFFSTUFF]

Now that's an idea...

[ddongbap]

Originally Posted by RUFFSTUFF

Now that's an idea...

Might as well swap out the engine, since there may be oil inbetween the pistions you're going to miss. Damn that used oil.

[DerFlosser]

Kingsland co' reprezent yo. Obviously you just don't get it. That's ok though....no surprises.

[ddongbap]

Originally Posted by DerFlosser

Kingsland co' reprezent yo. Obviously you just don't get it. That's ok though....no surprises.

I was just epic scarcasticing it up

[RUFFSTUFF]

Originally Posted by DerFlosser

Kingsland co' reprezent yo. Obviously you just don't get it. That's ok though....no surprises.

I get it... but barring any empirical data that says draining 3.900 quarts will provide longer, more reliable engine life than 3.884 quarts, I say the time is wasted... Maybe I have an understanding of the fact that everything in contact with the oil is going to have a film of the oil on it, and there will be small collections of oil in various points... maybe in a perfect world you could get all the oil out of the oil pan with extraordinary patience, but you're not going to get it out of the engine without some positive or negative pressure system connected. I've never personally broken down an engine into its component parts but I'm willing to bet that anyone who has, found oil in the engine somewhere.