Alpine Type R to the rescue

[centrysis]

Originally Posted by The Architect

Ehh the type r is a good budget sub that does well in ported enclosures, the are far better and far worse.

So what is a little bit better? For say around 650 watts rms. A dual 4 ohm 12".

[The Architect]

Id go for an RE SE 12 D4, 600 rms but underated slightly and relatively cheap, they're wildly popular over at ca.com

[talnlnky]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

I really like the idea of making my own setup though. Parts express/Madisound project types.

you're in luck... they have the parts so you can just build them yourself... and save some money

http://www.linkwitzlab.com/orion_challenge.htm
http://www.linkwitzlab.com/orion_construction.htm

Nobody in Oregon has made one yet....

[Alien Mantis]

The Alpine Type R subwoofer is the best quality sub you can get for the money.

That's why they are so popular.

You can buy a better sub, but you will pay way more money for it!

[The Architect]

you seem to be rather passionate, see if alpine needs any reps lol

[Slick]

Alpine blow, nightshades ftw :P

[The Architect]

oh god, lets all just go out and get IA Warden 21's and call it a day.

[Slick]

Originally Posted by The Architect

oh god, lets all just go out and get IA Warden 21's and call it a day.

+1 lol

[talnlnky]

Originally Posted by Alien Mantis

The Alpine Type R subwoofer is the best quality sub you can get for the money.

That's why they are so popular.

You can buy a better sub, but you will pay way more money for it!

there is always something better when it comes to best bang for the buck... especially when comparing to name brand companies... honestly buying from the diy sector often gets better quality, for less money... tho you don't get as many chrome or plastic parts on the sub.

[Alien Mantis]

Originally Posted by The Architect

you seem to be rather passionate, see if alpine needs any reps lol

The Type R sells itself!

I seem to recall YOU running 3 of them in your ride?

*ahem*

[Alien Mantis]

Originally Posted by The Architect

oh god, lets all just go out and get IA Warden 21's and call it a day.

And the price is HOW much exactly?

[Alien Mantis]

What do you experts look for when choosing a sub?

Big magnet?
Long excursion?
Cone Diameter?
Big voice coils?
Power rating?
Sensitivity?
Overall construction?
Dustcap color?
BRAND name?
Thiele Small parameters?

For me... I try to look at the SPECS, and then imagine how those specs would translate into real-world performance.
I look at RMS power that matches my amp, and what enclosure it needs.
I try to find a balance between SPL and SQ, because I can't afford the gear needed to achieve BOTH.

Do you guys just go for the latest "flavor" trend, or do you try and copy what the PRO competition guys are doing at the shows?

With "boutique" audio gear... the sky is the limit.
So where do you draw the line? When is "enough" enough?

[The Architect]

to each their own, some are fine with a 10 in the back sealed and say its loud as death and then some like have upwards of 36 inches of subwoofer for spine tingling visor flapping goodness.

I need my bass to be some sort of tight and defined, I dont want blurred, muddy or undefined bass even if its loud loud loud.

I never said type r's werent great for their price range, purpose & quality. they get the job done just fine.

[Slick]

I like big floppy base. Playin low 20 htz where it forces your breath in and out for you.

[The Architect]

im not sure you've ever experienced that unless you've been at least in steve meade's ride

[Alien Mantis]

Originally Posted by Slick

I like big floppy base. Playin low 20 htz where it forces your breath in and out for you.

Yeah, that is kinda fun, huh!

( Just get your Shamwow and your big bottle of Armor-All, and you'll be fine! )

[Alien Mantis]

Originally Posted by The Architect

I need my bass to be some sort of tight and defined, I dont want blurred, muddy or undefined bass even if its loud loud loud.

Yeah, I agree.

Loud MUD is not good.
The secret is getting your tight defined bass to also be LOUD.

That ported box I have is on the "loose" side. Seems to bump really nice, but also sounds kinda muddy on certain types of music.

I might end up putting that new Type R in a 1cf sealed box, and see how it does. I'm still getting used to it. Only had it for a few days. Gotta get to "know" it better.

[sqcomp]

The sound of the woofer has a lot to do with the enclosure...

Taln, you want to comment on this subject?

For me, he he, the tighter it is the better. I would give up output for tonal accuracy, attack, delay, and wide response. Someone say sealed enclosure? There really is so much more now that I'm thinking about it...

The dynamic ability of the woofer when combined with the other characteristics mentioned, the pitch accuracy of the woofer, and most importantly (to me), the ability of the speaker to convey ambiance (or how the overall "picture" of ambiance when grouped with the entire system).