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Old 04-13-2010, 11:29 AM   #19
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Another bang for Toyota/Lexus: Consumer Reports puts Lexus GX on "Do Not Buy" list due to rollover fears. It's strange how, as mentioned in the article, the other twin Totota 4Runner is not mentioned. Anyway, looks like soon enough you guys over there will be recommended to buy low-sprung sports cars only...

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/04/13/c...uy-list-due-t/
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Old 04-13-2010, 03:44 PM   #20
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I grew up with 472 and 500 cubic inch monster Cadillac V8s which turned about 1900 rpm at 60 mph, and where maximum power came at 3600 rpm. We never completely get past our deepest roots. ;-)

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Same here buddy, just ford V8's
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Old 04-13-2010, 03:50 PM   #21
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But mightn't that flip the car?

No, this is actually a HORRIBLE idea. The reason this became a big mess to begin with (other than all the hurt people, doesn't matter to corps). Was the fact that a guy that TEACHES driving to driving instructors died while on the phone. During that conversation he told the 911 operator everything he was doing. If you turn off the ignition you will lose your power steering. Pretty much anything you guys can suggest that would work he knew how to do. So, dont turn off ur car if the throttle gets stuck. Put it in neutral coast to the side of the hwy and turn it off.
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Old 04-13-2010, 04:04 PM   #22
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I have a Geo Metro automatic (really my brother's) which turns 4000rpm at 60mph. 5000rpm at 75 mph. They had a 4.1:1 FD with no overdrive. Not even a locking torque converter in those. The automatics were very primitive. Like something out of the 70s.

The 5 speed manual Sprints had a 0.76:1 overdrive. And the Sprint Metro had a special 3.79:1 final drive, in addition to a low lift, short duration economy cam, different ECU, and special low friction piston ring configuration.

With P15580R12 tires (3% larger diameter than the original, and impossible to find, P14580R12 tires) my Sprint Metro turns 2660 rpm at 60 mph. On teamswift, those who have changed their ring and pinions out for the 3.62:1 variety available on certain 1.3 liter 4 cylinder Swifts tend to chide the rest of us with their 2550rpm@60mph readings. (Some members even lie about their FD.)

The Yaris, in 4th gear, turns about the same speed, about 2550 rpm, at 60 mph. Its comparatively huge, monster inline 4 1.5L engine allows for that. ;-)

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it's crazy how those little engines ran high RPM's... the Geo only had a 1.3L

my swift had a 1.6L with 3 spd automatic...

well... RPM always stayed high. :) but god, it had alot of power for the little car.. hehe
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Old 04-13-2010, 04:30 PM   #23
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so if you revved it real high in N and dropped it into first you will not cause dmg? That doesn't sound right? Please explain.
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Old 04-14-2010, 02:28 AM   #24
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No, this is actually a HORRIBLE idea. The reason this became a big mess to begin with (other than all the hurt people, doesn't matter to corps). Was the fact that a guy that TEACHES driving to driving instructors died while on the phone. During that conversation he told the 911 operator everything he was doing. If you turn off the ignition you will lose your power steering. Pretty much anything you guys can suggest that would work he knew how to do. So, dont turn off ur car if the throttle gets stuck. Put it in neutral coast to the side of the hwy and turn it off.
Even if you turn off and lose the power steering and power brakes, the steering and brakes still work. That guy died in ignominious shame, IMO.
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Old 04-14-2010, 08:41 AM   #25
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Even if you turn off and lose the power steering and power brakes, the steering and brakes still work. That guy died in ignominious shame, IMO.
Turn off the ignition and the steering will lock up- not wise when you're moving.
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Turn off the ignition and the steering will lock up- not wise when you're moving.
The steering will only lock if you take the key out of the ignition.
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Old 04-14-2010, 04:31 PM   #27
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There is a click back that turns off the ignition and leaves power accessories on. The steering does not lock. As has been said many times, the first step is to put on the brakes. The brakes are more powerful than the engine. If you pump the brakes, you will lose vacuum assist. You won't if you put them on and keep them on. Next is to put the transmission in neutral. There's no lockout of that, and no negative to doing it. Turning off the switch really isn't the first thing to try, but will work. A Highway Patrolman who couldn't deal with that is just shameful. Tragically so in this case. Everyone ought to get taught basic emergency procedures for dealing with a stuck throttle, failed brakes and such in driver's ed.
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Old 04-14-2010, 05:01 PM   #28
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As a professional bone head, and one who bounces off the rev limiter when entering some corners, I say its fine. I've boinged off the rev limiter for minutes at a time.

Idk what anyone says. My engine is running very healthy on all three cly.
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Idk what anyone says. My engine is running very healthy on all three cly.
you're joking right?
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you're joking right?
Yes I am.
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Old 04-19-2010, 04:13 AM   #31
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GRRRROOWPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAA.

Thats what it sounds like when u WOT in neutral.
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Old 04-19-2010, 02:33 PM   #33
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GRRRROOWPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPPAPAPAPAPAPAPAPAA.

Thats what it sounds like when u WOT in neutral.
Nicely done!
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