Ford Fiesta: 40 mpg Hwy - Page 2 - Toyota Yaris Forums

mick.wheelz · 05-25-2010, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by atomsareenough

Yeah, but they're not selling the diesel Fiesta in the US. Those numbers (29/40) are for the normal gasoline version.

so 40 MPG is 5.9l/100km... thats not that brilliant fuel economy really...

the 06-08 yaris is rated at 6.0 (1.3)/ 6.1 (1.5) litres per 100km,
and the 09-10 yaris is rated at 6.5 (1.3)/ 6.7 (1.5) itres per 100km in Australia... why the hell aren't ford importing the diesel?

slothman86 · 05-26-2010, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by atomsareenough

Yeah, but they're not selling the diesel Fiesta in the US. Those numbers (29/40) are for the normal gasoline version.

Actually not the normal version...the super fuel efficient version!

atomsareenough · 05-27-2010, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by slothman86

Actually not the normal version...the super fuel efficient version!

Isn't it just the standard automatic transmission version? The engine isn't any different, right? What's different about the "super fuel efficient" version? It's my understanding that the manual has 5-speeds, but the auto has 6-speeds and is uses "dual-clutch", so it's more efficient.

fnkngrv · 05-25-2010, 12:32 AM

Either way you look at it, Ford has had its moments on sharp looking cars however it is like the other of the big 3...plagued with issues and recalls. Toyota is not "falling apart at the seems" as the networks are trying to make it look as well as certain politicians getting their pockets lined by constituents. The Escort was hailed as a very economic car back when it was introduced however after owning 2 of them when I was younger and replacing heads in the motors left and right literally as well as the moisture issues with the distro-caps and wiring connections, etc it is tough to swallow that the Fiesta will stomp on us...

Zaphod · 05-25-2010, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by fnkngrv

Either way you look at it, Ford has had its moments on sharp looking cars however it is like the other of the big 3...plagued with issues and recalls. Toyota is not "falling apart at the seems" as the networks are trying to make it look as well as certain politicians getting their pockets lined by constituents. The Escort was hailed as a very economic car back when it was introduced however after owning 2 of them when I was younger and replacing heads in the motors left and right literally as well as the moisture issues with the distro-caps and wiring connections, etc it is tough to swallow that the Fiesta will stomp on us...

The escort was a total PoS, no doubt about it.

We had a Pinto in the family for 15 years. We even towed a pop-up trailer all over the US with that little car, but the extra stress on the uni-body frame from all that towing combined with rust put her into an early grave ... if you call 15 years an early grave for an economy car, the engine and transmission were still running strong!

I have a feeling the Fiesta is going to be a really nice little car. It sure does look sharp, no question about it!

john21031 · 05-25-2010, 01:01 AM

bronsin · 05-25-2010, 12:31 PM

My brothers Renault Alliance (1.3 liter) regularly got 53 mpg on his 20 mile commute. Prius cant do better. The best 2010 technology can do is TIE 1980 technology. IQs have dropped sharply in
30 years.

bkrownd · 05-25-2010, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bronsin

My brothers Renault Alliance (1.3 liter) regularly got 53 mpg on his 20 mile commute. Prius cant do better. The best 2010 technology can do is TIE 1980 technology. IQs have dropped sharply in
30 years.

Government-mandated equipment and emissions rules have increased sharply.

Hershey · 05-25-2010, 01:31 PM

don't forget the MAZDA 2 . Very good looking liftback . Sure to give the YARIS a run for the money . Too bad it doesn't have the 1.3 ltr. that was in the FORD Festiva . Great little car . Owned several of those . 1.3 ltr. one tough cookie , seen it take some serious abuse . There's a few still roaming about .

Hershey · 05-26-2010, 01:41 PM

same for CHINA , want to live the AMERICAN lifestyle . Bigger is better . They're part of reason why AMERICAN car manufacturers are staying afloat . Not good for the near future gas , diesel , and oil prices .

bronsin · 05-26-2010, 07:22 PM

Its crazy for China. They are trying to copy our unsustainable lifestyle. When they had a sustainable one more or less to start with.

why? · 05-31-2010, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bronsin

Its crazy for China. They are trying to copy our unsustainable lifestyle. When they had a sustainable one more or less to start with.

yea if you call absolute poverty 'sustainable.' Might as well call it what it truly is to a good majority of the chinese population: "slavery."

some money is finally starting to flow to non uber wealthy chinese. of course they are going to start to spend it.

bronsin · 05-27-2010, 09:17 AM

Yeah the super efficient nobody will ever find one to buy 2600 pound its all a lie that it gets 40 mpg version.

bronsin · 06-01-2010, 10:29 AM

I agree the Chinese people are in a position where they will soon be demanding a bigger slice of the pie. Its going to be a difficult balancing act for everybody. China is only seeing an illusion of prosperity. Once the cheap labor goes, what happens then? Revolution? And when, as it seems likely, the Revolution doesnt produce the desired results, whats to follow THAT? There just isnt enough $$$$ to give everybody what they want.

birdman · 01-16-2011, 06:55 PM

I believe European miles or gallons are calibrated differently giving the illusion that their cars are more efficient than ones sold in the US.

Kal-El · 01-16-2011, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by birdman

I believe European miles or gallons are calibrated differently giving the illusion that their cars are more efficient than ones sold in the US.

One imperial gallon is approximately equal to 1.201 U.S. gallons. Canada, Great Britain, ect. use imperial gallons thus making the "MPG" figures significantly higher even when comparing identical cars.

Also, the USA's EPA provides estimates only good for the US market. Other countries produce their own estimates which vary due to different testing techniques.

Birdman, are you wondering if the Fiesta's 40 MPG figure is the European figure? It's not, that is the official EPA estimate for America - the same testing that gave the Yaris a 35 MPG highway figure.

Midnight Drifter · 01-20-2011, 01:00 PM

I'd rather drive the Chevrolet Cruze Eco.

At least THAT is an American car, not a Mexican car.

why? · 01-20-2011, 01:25 PM

most of GM's cars are made in mexico too.

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bronsin Drives: 2009 Base Hatch 2 Dr Auto Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: nj Posts: 4,783	My brothers Renault Alliance (1.3 liter) regularly got 53 mpg on his 20 mile commute. Prius cant do better. The best 2010 technology can do is TIE 1980 technology. IQs have dropped sharply in 30 years. Last edited by bronsin; 05-25-2010 at 01:29 PM.

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bronsin Drives: 2009 Base Hatch 2 Dr Auto Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: nj Posts: 4,783	I agree the Chinese people are in a position where they will soon be demanding a bigger slice of the pie. Its going to be a difficult balancing act for everybody. China is only seeing an illusion of prosperity. Once the cheap labor goes, what happens then? Revolution? And when, as it seems likely, the Revolution doesnt produce the desired results, whats to follow THAT? There just isnt enough $$$$ to give everybody what they want. Last edited by bronsin; 06-01-2010 at 11:53 AM.

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