Yaris Sedan Deadening and Sound system upgrade

[Herbicidal]

Congratulations!!! I guess if you have to 'lose', what a way to go.

[Palmer812]

Congrats!!! We now know the real reason you spent all that time deadening the Yaris. When the baby won't stop crying you have somewhere to go and hide.

[gates_2]

Congrats! That must be really exciting!


Quick question..anyone have problems with getting the C pillar off? I'm in the process of gutting my HB to put in deadening, and there seems to be like a metal cliplike thing holding the C pillar in place quite firmly (its different from the other white plastic clips)- Advise?

[derickveliz2]

Thanks guys,

Looks like tomorrow night we'll go back to this project.

Herb, I got your meter, will test soon.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by Emerge

Congratulations man! There's nothing in the world like love at first sight.

YEAH!!!


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[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by gates_2

Congrats! That must be really exciting!


Quick question..anyone have problems with getting the C pillar off? I'm in the process of gutting my HB to put in deadening, and there seems to be like a metal cliplike thing holding the C pillar in place quite firmly (its different from the other white plastic clips)- Advise?

My C pillar was very easy to pull off.

(o:

[Herbicidal]

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

Herb, I got your meter, will test soon.

Take any readings yet from your newborn? I KNOW she is not always that quiet and photogenic!!!

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by Herbicidal

Take any readings yet from your newborn? I KNOW she is not always that quiet and photogenic!!!

I haven't had a chance to do that! she is not very loud! she sleeps eats and you know.

I replaced the 9v battery and drove to work, the meter it's very tricky and I'm slowly finding how it works, even a small change on pavement the numbers increase, even if I talk or sneeze, small bumps on the road, a truck passing by also make the numbers go up or just changing the position of the meter or touching it as well.

Also the position and orientation makes a difference, pointing at the windshield the #s increase a little bit. It's not fair to record MAX readings for reference, so I'm posting actual readings as I drive on the highway...


at 75mph reads... 74db to 78db a small bump or changes in surface bumps and reads... 80db for 1/2 a second

at 65mph reads... 61db to 68db
ps... GPS speed in MPH

All this with the center of the car open (no center console) and no front passenger's seat either and the front left wheel well untreated.

I would like to try this in my Dad's Mercedes...


A couple of nights ago I put some Mat and Ensolite to the center console, I didn't spend a lot of time here, I just wanted to reinforce the plastic panels a little bit, and prevent rattling, I'm also concern on getting back in place this piece, so I didn't put any Mat or Ensolite on the edges... here are the pictures:







Oops..

[derickveliz2]

Ok, my intention was to record video clips at highway speeds, please don't do this at home LOL

Sorry for the crappy video quality

This video is driving at 70 mph (cruise control) no center console, no front passenger's seat either and the front left wheel well untreated. PS... thanks to herb for letting me use his db meter.

[derickveliz2]

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This video is at 80 MPH... CRANK up the volume of your speakers and hear the noise coming from the stick as I move the camera from it.



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[derickveliz2]

It's hard to have a sense of scale with db (decibels) so I thought about what if I open the window at 80mph? almost 10 db more, but to my ears it was twice as much louder. It's interesting how these measurements work, we are used to grab a ruler and measure, but with decibels I guess it doesn't work the same way.

enjoy

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[talnlnky]

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

It's hard to have a sense of scale with db (decibels) so I thought about what if I open the window at 80mph? almost 10 db more, but to my ears it was twice as much louder. It's interesting how these measurements work, we are used to grab a ruler and measure, but with decibels I guess it doesn't work the same way.

enjoy

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the dB scale is exponential. either 0 or 1 dB is supposed to be the lowest volume of sound a human ear is supposed to be able to hear. Every increase of 3dB is technically a doubling in volume. HOWEVER, human ears suck as listening tools. Human ears usually perceive a 6 to 10dB increase as being a doubling in sound.

So, you saying that a 10dB increase felt like a doubling is within normal perception.

Also, once you start getting up past 120dB, the ears really can't tell what a doubling is... especially when you start getting in the 140+ range.

Another thing, there are many different decibel measurement tools out there. I know of only one that is accurate & consistent regardless of environmental conditions. Many are very liberal with their ratings (higher readings than they should be).

[derickveliz2]

Thanks Taln, I know that there is a logic explanation for all that. and I agree human ears are not a very good listening tool; and yes the meter I'm using is from Herb, and it's not very expensive (around $35) so we are kind of playing and having fun, not actually getting real results.


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I just wanted to give it a try, since he was a little frustrated with his before and after readings, but my conclusion besides it's a cheap meter, he is looking at MAX recorded and like if you watch in the videos the numbers kick up and down at some points, so I'm pretty sure his treatment is working well.

I'm going to send the meter back to Herb next week so he can play with it again.

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[derickveliz2]

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2 nights ago, I met a big nightmare! putting back the center console was a pain!!! but now it's very tight and snug.

So when ever you do your deadening project remember to leave space and plan ahead on what you cover, for your trim panels, screws, seats, etc, since adding Mat, Ensolite or CLD Tiles, CCFoam and MLV like in my case, you will increase the thickness of your floor, so everything is going to be tight.

For the back panel of the center console that has the cup holder for the rear seats, I'm going to have to shave on the bottom to make it fit properly.


but you know what... it's worth it!

D.

[derickveliz2]

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Last night I removed the OEM head unit, and it was a 30 minute workout very easy to do. removing the vents from it with... those 8 clips, where the time consuming part. Now my interior looks really bad, and without a radio to listen, I really want to install my system; this should make me move faster on the installation.

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[derickveliz2]

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This is how it looks with out a Head Unit!
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. I'm about to do the Big 3, any last minute tips are appreciated!

Thanks

[Herbicidal]

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

I haven't had a chance to do that! she is not very loud! she sleeps eats and you know.

I replaced the 9v battery and drove to work, the meter it's very tricky and I'm slowly finding how it works, even a small change on pavement the numbers increase, even if I talk or sneeze, small bumps on the road, a truck passing by also make the numbers go up or just changing the position of the meter or touching it as well.

Also the position and orientation makes a difference, pointing at the windshield the #s increase a little bit. It's not fair to record MAX readings for reference, so I'm posting actual readings as I drive on the highway...

at 75mph reads... 74db to 78db a small bump or changes in surface bumps and reads... 80db for 1/2 a second

at 65mph reads... 61db to 68db
ps... GPS speed in MPH

All this with the center of the car open (no center console) and no front passenger's seat either and the front left wheel well untreated.

I would like to try this in my Dad's Mercedes...

You're welcome for the use of the meter.

I'll have to try the highway readings like you did just for comparison and yes, I realize this is all just for fun. However, I'm not taking out my passenger seat or the center console!

[derickveliz2]

Meter is going back to California tomorrow! Thank you!!!!

it's a learning process...

I need some sleep....