Yaris Sedan Deadening and Sound system upgrade

[sqcomp]

He mentioned that you said something about JL? EEK! :P

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

He mentioned that you said something about JL? EEK! :P

Yeah he told me he is not a fan of JL (L Audio 15W0v2-4), I found one with similar specs to the ID15 and since I don't have an idea about brands I asked him, I've been a Pioneer fan since I was 16 years old, that's why I end up with a P99, jeje

He also pionts out that the ID sounds better (SQ) in a sealed box but since I'm used to my three 10 inch solo-barics that I should consider a ported box.

I'll just keep working with the installation now and figure that out later, even though I was saving for a good pair of tweeters from HAT (that's $200) so I'll see how everything goes and what results I'm getting with what I have now.

Thank you,

Your A-pilars look so SEXY, good job!

D.

[changchewsoon]

hi there, i'm currently using the alpine head unit with an additional imprint processor.

it basically allows the adjustment of the time alignment via software by positioning a microphone in various location and then allow the software to tune itself out.

here, take a look at my post if you want to find out more.

hope it helps! :)

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by changchewsoon

hi there, i'm currently using the alpine head unit with an additional imprint processor.

it basically allows the adjustment of the time alignment via software by positioning a microphone in various location and then allow the software to tune itself out.
hope it helps! :)

Thanks, looks cool. That is why I got the P99 it also comes with a microphone and sound processor, once I get all my speakers and amps going I can run it and will tune itself too.

Derick

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[derickveliz2]

Last night I made the base for the amps I end up using a thinner plywood because that's what I had, but it should work the idea is to keep the amps fixed to the floor, the top cover will be 3/4" to support what ever goes on.

I cut it and covered with walmart $8 auto carpet. (not bad to be my first job covering) I used 3M-77 and regular staples; here are some shots!







Look at those ugly corners, no problem I fixed them!

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[derickveliz2]

This one just for the fun of it!




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[sqcomp]

First...being in the SQ judge mindset, why blue illumination? Our illum is either white or green. Just a personal choice?

I actually like the dual spectrum analyzer screen myself on this deck. I run though with the basic screen up for the most part.

Okay, the screen you're looking at is the factory TA presets. I'd do one of two things for your situation. I'd either take the position Left placement and dial in the TA a smidge AND/OR take notes of the position left distances...you do this by turning on the posi L and then jogging the dial over to the TA section. You'll notice that the deck has already made some adjustments.

Take notes of that posi L measurements and add on.

Now, my setup is mostly A-pillar off axis. Yours is probably a little different. Do what you need to do. I think this is a good start though.

Oh, one note about the auto EQ and auto TA...Do it BUT, be very wary. That auto TA destroyed my center image. I mean really...it did a David Copperfield to the center.

Thoughts?

[derickveliz2]

I'm keeping all these notes for later, once the time comes I'll stop playing and get some real numbers.

As of today I only have the LOW frequency mid-bass (6.5 drives in the doors) working with one amp. I hope by next week I'm going to have all 3 amps running and start playing with the location and orientation of the Mids and Tweeters like you did with a towel next to the A-pillars. For sub right now I'm just going to plug in a 10" Bazooka that I was saving for my wifes corolla.

As you wish... there are many colors one for each day!






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[derickveliz2]

This one is for you sqcomp...

[sqcomp]

Good man...you found the illumination setup...

:D

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

Good man...you found the illumination setup...

:D

I know, this is the only fancy feature of the Carrozzeria, after that it's pure SQ

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[sqcomp]

...and the stellar EQ, crossover section, TA, and four DACs...

[derickveliz2]

For the first time in months I put back my son's car-seat and took him for a ride, What a pleasure to talk to him and to listen to him without screaming each other, it felt so good!

[derickveliz2]

In the last few days... I put up a shed, sanded and painted my deck and last night I came to the conclusion that I hate wires!. Yes I just don't like them I'm glad that the P99 installation is so simple and I don't have to run active cross overs or EQ's and deal with more wires.

But! it has to be done, 2 amps are running now 1 for Low Frequencies (63-500) feeding 6.5 speakers in the doors the other one for Mid Frequencies (500-6.3) [this numbers are for reference only, I don't remember the exact numbers] feeding the HL-70.

What can I say... sounds awesome!!! I have never ever hear and feel music coming from little speakers like these. I swear there is a woofer some where in my car but no the 6.5 speakers are working great! the rear view mirrors started to blur a little bit (I'm going to have to apply some Mat behind them) and the HL-70 (I only plugged one on the left) produces the most beautiful sounds I ever heard coming from a speaker. All songs suddenly sound pretty.

And don't get me wrong, I'm not an installer or an EQ guy with experience but I had LOUD SPL systems in my previews cars (one day I was at MacDonalds -this is back in Guatemala- and at the drive-thru I turned the volume up and the ceiling tiles with a light fixture fell off on top of my car, people could hear/feel me coming 3 or 4 blocks away) so all this new thing about EQ it's new for me and a wonderful experience.

I also played with Time Alignment on the HL-70 and suddenly feels like the speaker is outside the car to the left, this is truly amazing and something different for me, I can't wait to go back in my car and listen to more music! and do some more work, even though that means dealing with wires

[derickveliz2]

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Hertz HL-70s shown on A- Pillars and now lets play with aiming and location. Still don't know if I'm going to integrate in one peace into the A-pillars or maybe I'll build a separate semi sphere and attach it mechanically.
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[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

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Hertz HL-70s shown on A- Pillars and now lets play with aiming and location. Still don't know if I'm going to integrate in one peace into the A-pillars or maybe I'll build a separate semi sphere and attach it mechanically.
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When I started this idea, I had NO IDEA! that my Stage was going to get "Narrower"

If you put your speakers closer together, you will reduce the width of your stage.

D.

[derickveliz2]

Ok, I'm convinced ....

What ever I hook up in this system is going to sound good!

All 3 amps are running now, the 4 channel amp it's only running 2 channels, it's waiting for the tweeters that I haven't connected.

2 Hertz 3" at the A-Pillards
2 Hifonics Zeus 6.5 in the OEM front doors
1 Bazzooka Tube 10" in the trunk

Yes! a Bazooka !!! and sounds awesome!!!
I still remember how my three 10" Solo-Baric sound, and it hurts to recognize that the Bazooka out performs them, now I have to give them a try and compare! and I don't know if its because I had a Tacoma X-tra cab and the Sedan configuration helps with bass, also all the Matt applied and here is wher I make the difference in Deadening a car for Road noise or make it rattle free and better acoustical environment; what I can tell you is that all the sound deadening works it's way out too, I crank up the volume and step outside, it was very quiet!

Honestly I think is the magic coming from the P-99 with all the audio control to each speaker you can make everything sound GREAT! I was playing this morning turning on/off the woofer and NOW I understand why is so important a good mid-bass in the system, I used to do the same, but every time I turned the woofers off there was no bass left over, instead with this system when I turn the woofer off, there it is all the bass I was missing in other systems, this is more like a drum what we call tight bass, and then when I turn the woofer on, a wonderful deep bass fills in naturally.



I still have a few tweeters to play with or decide to go HAT $$$

Premier small tweeters

JBL T-25 Tweeters

and the tweeters that came with the Zeus

But I'm sure what ever I put there it's going to sound good, the tweeters are going in small spheres near the 3" Hertz.

I really would like to have HAT tweeters for sure, lets see how every thing goes!



Here is an image of the underestimated bazooka tube that sounds great!





These are the specs for the Premier:






PS... I still hate wiring

[changchewsoon]

the head unit looks wicked!