Ebay Intake? - Page 3 - Toyota Yaris Forums

mikenacarato · 11-06-2008, 10:42 AM

i just figure it like this, i take a lot of pride in my cars, i love them a lot. if im not going to skimp out of other serious parts why bother skimping on an intake..its just an intake. I believe that the intake is actually a pretty serious part of an engine and i have seen the insides of those ebay pipes rust and just imagine that rust going into your engine....eeeew. thats just my opinion...kind of like how i refuse to by rota, exel, og, 5zigen, or any other brand of knockoff wheel. I guess it all does depend on your scene though, here in nashville or at least the people i hang around, if you dont have the good stuff...you suck. its all status i guess.

largeorangefont · 11-06-2008, 11:21 AM

Go for it and save yourself some cash! Almost every criticism of that intake on this thread is incorrect. It is alumnium and will not rust, the tubing is mandrel bent, and it is not going to cause "turbulence".

That ebay intake is most likely just fine. You are right, A pipe is a pipe, and there is really no need to spend $200 for one. The one you have shown looks to be designed correctly. It has OEM diameter piping, the MAF is placed correctly, and the PCV is vented after the MAF.

You may deal with fitment issues, but I can't see them being very serious. The only part that may be questionable is the filter istelf. Some of the immitation K&N filters are not so good. But even if you got a new filter, it would still be cheap, and the power will be comperable to anything else on the market. Summit now offers immitation K&N filters for $20-$30 bucks.

mikenacarato · 11-06-2008, 11:35 AM

i guess that about settles it then. go for it

after all, a pipe is just a pipe right?

Split · 11-06-2008, 12:23 PM

you guys gotta be kidding.. companies like Fujita and AEM build their intakes the same way as the ebay guys. There was a Fujita employee on mazda3forums.com when i owned my mazda3. He told us how the process works:
They take the stock airbox off, the look for a decent spot for a filter to be (usually as low as possible or away from the motor, etc). They make a pipe that bends and runs down to that location and they put a filter on it. They test for a CEL, and if it doesn't make one, they mass produce it. Dyno results are always fudged. They take a heat soaked car with a dirty filter and dyno it. Then they put their intake it and let it cool off and aim huge fans at it and dyno it again.

mikenacarato · 11-06-2008, 12:25 PM

he sure as hell wasnt in r&d then...

Stargate YARlantIS · 11-06-2008, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikenacarato

he sure as hell wasnt in r&d then...

mikenacarato · 11-06-2008, 12:41 PM

im sorry...i just believe in quality parts. I wont say another word.

The Spectacle · 11-06-2008, 01:12 PM

Its unfortunate that some people put so much emphasis on "quality" when it comes to simple parts like intakes. Tube and a filter, nothing more.

Besides, its a 102hp car. In the long run, where did your $200 parts take you? 104hp? 1-2 more MPG? If it was me, I'd buy the ebay "junk", mod it to fit if necessary, replace the filter and call it a day.

You don't ALWAYS get what you pay for.

Nexus1155 · 11-06-2008, 01:42 PM

Quote:

They take the stock airbox off, the look for a decent spot for a filter to be (usually as low as possible or away from the motor, etc). They make a pipe that bends and runs down to that location and they put a filter on it. They test for a CEL, and if it doesn't make one, they mass produce it. Dyno results are always fudged. They take a heat soaked car with a dirty filter and dyno it. Then they put their intake it and let it cool off and aim huge fans at it and dyno it again.

I freakin knew it!!!!

kustom play · 11-06-2008, 02:22 PM

lol

i didnt realise 5zigen was a "knock off"

i hate to tell you but they are far from a knock off

ive been beating the crap out of my FN01RC's on the track with no problem at all

i dont know what your talking about rust

most are made out of aluminum and as we all know that doesnt rust

this dude knows how well parts work for the yaris and doesnt even own one yet

what are you driving now? a honda civic?

this place is starting to get as bad as scion life with all the wrong knowledge

mikenacarato · 11-06-2008, 02:34 PM

well i have owned a civic, an rx7, my current volvo, i currently work for a volvo truck dealership in parts, was a tech for several years, im ase certified and more. not to mention i have also worked for a bmw performance shop, have built plenty of roll cages and done custom fab work. i have installed superchargers and turbos on various cars such as 2 ferrari 308gtsi models, lots and lots of bmws, custom built my own turbo kit on my volvo down to making the manifold AND the intake setup. now to the wheels, the fn01rc is a knockoff of a gram light/rays/volk wheel, it is not their original design. while it may be good quality, its not original.

Split · 11-06-2008, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikenacarato

well i have owned a civic, an rx7, my current volvo, i currently work for a volvo truck dealership in parts, was a tech for several years, im ase certified and more. not to mention i have also worked for a bmw performance shop, have built plenty of roll cages and done custom fab work. i have installed superchargers and turbos on various cars such as 2 ferrari 308gtsi models, lots and lots of bmws, custom built my own turbo kit on my volvo down to making the manifold AND the intake setup. now to the wheels, the fn01rc is a knockoff of a gram light/rays/volk wheel, it is not their original design. while it may be good quality, its not original.

what happened to being only 21-years-old ?

MadMax · 11-09-2008, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Split

what happened to being only 21-years-old ?

Or not saying another word...

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikenacarato

im sorry...i just believe in quality parts. I wont say another word.

Dude, it's his car, let him do what he wants with it! You have your opinion on what goes on your car, and that's fine; but quit trying to make everyone believe you are the sole authority and final word on this! Some of us have more car experience than you have time on this planet; so no matter how much of an expert you may think you are, there are many here who know more.

You've made your point, now let it go!

Cheers! M2

Thej3sta2 · 11-09-2008, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MadMax

Or not saying another word...

Dude, it's his car, let him do what he wants with it! You have your opinion on what goes on your car, and that's fine; but quit trying to make everyone believe you are the sole authority and final word on this! Some of us have more car experience than you have time on this planet; so no matter how much of an expert you may think you are, there are many here who know more.

You've made your point, now let it go!

Cheers! M2

man seriously all he had to say was YES or NO. Not 15 post of "Im a Master machanic that works on ferraris and Volvos guy that make so much money at the age of 21 and buys a F***in Yaris."

IDIOT

mikenacarato · 11-06-2008, 09:49 PM

yeah? your point? can i not be 21?

the head mechanic at our local and only authorized ferrari repair shop is 20 years old.

Midon · 11-06-2008, 10:05 PM

Was layed up with internet problems. On this issue with the intakes. It really is each persons opinion. But since Our cars don't have that much displacement it really doesn't matter to me. The CAI I got off ebay for 50 buck does what it is designed to do. Move the filter to an area away from the hot air. Now I would understand if there were different materials used by the different companies. I know mine is made completely out of aluminum, true the filter that came with it is crap, and might let to much dirt pass into the engine, so what Just change the filter. All I was buying for the 50 bucks was the pipe. It is well made and hasn't thrown a CEL yet. So can the name brands make more HP I doubt it but we will never know until someone shows some dyno's with the different intakes.

My .02

mikenacarato · 11-06-2008, 10:09 PM

listen man, lets not make this a personal thing. by no means and i trying to put you down as a person or try to start any trouble. you original post was about how you were considering ditching your simota for an ebay intake. you asked if others have tried that intake. i have NOT tried the ebay intakes for the yaris nor do i plan on it. i have ran them on other cars only to have bad experiences due to crappy workmanship. you asked for opinions, i gave an opinion. that is all. i apologize for starting any trouble.

i agree with you midon, the only way to show anything is on a dyno. this is my first low displacement car and i know i need to not expect big gains from parts i buy regardless of brand. its going to be different for me to only get 1-4 hp from an intake vs. the 15-20 i picked up on my volvo and the 30hp and 45 torque from its exhaust too. different cars, different power numbers. im sorry for arguing.

kustom play · 11-09-2008, 08:39 PM

the thing i dont get is you normally graduate high school at 18

so this dude only has 2 years of schooling and became the head mechanic of a Ferrari dealership? He must of skipped the whole intern process, i mean i cant even teach without a 4 year degree

i know the head mechanic of a Ferrari shop and hes an old British dude, looks like an old fisherman who would jump overboard and stab a shark with a harpoon. i cant see them hiring some random 20 year old.

heres some pics of the dealership including the sub basement with some hidden treasures:

http://kustomplay.multiply.com/photo...rkham_12-28-06

more:

http://kustomplay.multiply.com/photo...ow_out_9-20-07

11-06-2008, 10:05 PM	#16
Midon Mod Freak Drives: 88 MR2 GT Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Gainesville, TX Posts: 147	Was layed up with internet problems. On this issue with the intakes. It really is each persons opinion. But since Our cars don't have that much displacement it really doesn't matter to me. The CAI I got off ebay for 50 buck does what it is designed to do. Move the filter to an area away from the hot air. Now I would understand if there were different materials used by the different companies. I know mine is made completely out of aluminum, true the filter that came with it is crap, and might let to much dirt pass into the engine, so what Just change the filter. All I was buying for the 50 bucks was the pipe. It is well made and hasn't thrown a CEL yet. So can the name brands make more HP I doubt it but we will never know until someone shows some dyno's with the different intakes. My .02 __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3160999

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11-06-2008, 10:42 AM	#1
mikenacarato SIPNDEW View User's Garage Drives: 15 STI Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brentwood, TN Posts: 2,281	i just figure it like this, i take a lot of pride in my cars, i love them a lot. if im not going to skimp out of other serious parts why bother skimping on an intake..its just an intake. I believe that the intake is actually a pretty serious part of an engine and i have seen the insides of those ebay pipes rust and just imagine that rust going into your engine....eeeew. thats just my opinion...kind of like how i refuse to by rota, exel, og, 5zigen, or any other brand of knockoff wheel. I guess it all does depend on your scene though, here in nashville or at least the people i hang around, if you dont have the good stuff...you suck. its all status i guess.

11-06-2008, 11:21 AM	#2
largeorangefont Break'em off some. View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris LB, 04 Cobra Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: So Cal, OC Posts: 854	Go for it and save yourself some cash! Almost every criticism of that intake on this thread is incorrect. It is alumnium and will not rust, the tubing is mandrel bent, and it is not going to cause "turbulence". That ebay intake is most likely just fine. You are right, A pipe is a pipe, and there is really no need to spend $200 for one. The one you have shown looks to be designed correctly. It has OEM diameter piping, the MAF is placed correctly, and the PCV is vented after the MAF. You may deal with fitment issues, but I can't see them being very serious. The only part that may be questionable is the filter istelf. Some of the immitation K&N filters are not so good. But even if you got a new filter, it would still be cheap, and the power will be comperable to anything else on the market. Summit now offers immitation K&N filters for $20-$30 bucks.

11-06-2008, 11:35 AM	#3
mikenacarato SIPNDEW View User's Garage Drives: 15 STI Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brentwood, TN Posts: 2,281	i guess that about settles it then. go for it after all, a pipe is just a pipe right?

11-06-2008, 12:23 PM	#4
Split Drives: 2008 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Edmonton Posts: 393	you guys gotta be kidding.. companies like Fujita and AEM build their intakes the same way as the ebay guys. There was a Fujita employee on mazda3forums.com when i owned my mazda3. He told us how the process works: They take the stock airbox off, the look for a decent spot for a filter to be (usually as low as possible or away from the motor, etc). They make a pipe that bends and runs down to that location and they put a filter on it. They test for a CEL, and if it doesn't make one, they mass produce it. Dyno results are always fudged. They take a heat soaked car with a dirty filter and dyno it. Then they put their intake it and let it cool off and aim huge fans at it and dyno it again.

11-06-2008, 12:25 PM	#5
mikenacarato SIPNDEW View User's Garage Drives: 15 STI Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brentwood, TN Posts: 2,281	he sure as hell wasnt in r&d then...

11-06-2008, 12:41 PM	#7
mikenacarato SIPNDEW View User's Garage Drives: 15 STI Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brentwood, TN Posts: 2,281	im sorry...i just believe in quality parts. I wont say another word.

11-06-2008, 01:12 PM	#8
The Spectacle View User's Garage Drives: 08 BSP LB Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 218	Its unfortunate that some people put so much emphasis on "quality" when it comes to simple parts like intakes. Tube and a filter, nothing more. Besides, its a 102hp car. In the long run, where did your $200 parts take you? 104hp? 1-2 more MPG? If it was me, I'd buy the ebay "junk", mod it to fit if necessary, replace the filter and call it a day. You don't ALWAYS get what you pay for.

11-06-2008, 02:22 PM	#10
kustom play pink wheels are cool View User's Garage Drives: 07 liftback Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,407	lol i didnt realise 5zigen was a "knock off" i hate to tell you but they are far from a knock off ive been beating the crap out of my FN01RC's on the track with no problem at all i dont know what your talking about rust most are made out of aluminum and as we all know that doesnt rust this dude knows how well parts work for the yaris and doesnt even own one yet what are you driving now? a honda civic? this place is starting to get as bad as scion life with all the wrong knowledge

11-06-2008, 02:34 PM	#11
mikenacarato SIPNDEW View User's Garage Drives: 15 STI Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brentwood, TN Posts: 2,281	well i have owned a civic, an rx7, my current volvo, i currently work for a volvo truck dealership in parts, was a tech for several years, im ase certified and more. not to mention i have also worked for a bmw performance shop, have built plenty of roll cages and done custom fab work. i have installed superchargers and turbos on various cars such as 2 ferrari 308gtsi models, lots and lots of bmws, custom built my own turbo kit on my volvo down to making the manifold AND the intake setup. now to the wheels, the fn01rc is a knockoff of a gram light/rays/volk wheel, it is not their original design. while it may be good quality, its not original.

11-06-2008, 09:49 PM	#15
mikenacarato SIPNDEW View User's Garage Drives: 15 STI Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brentwood, TN Posts: 2,281	yeah? your point? can i not be 21? the head mechanic at our local and only authorized ferrari repair shop is 20 years old.

11-06-2008, 10:09 PM	#17
mikenacarato SIPNDEW View User's Garage Drives: 15 STI Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Brentwood, TN Posts: 2,281	listen man, lets not make this a personal thing. by no means and i trying to put you down as a person or try to start any trouble. you original post was about how you were considering ditching your simota for an ebay intake. you asked if others have tried that intake. i have NOT tried the ebay intakes for the yaris nor do i plan on it. i have ran them on other cars only to have bad experiences due to crappy workmanship. you asked for opinions, i gave an opinion. that is all. i apologize for starting any trouble. i agree with you midon, the only way to show anything is on a dyno. this is my first low displacement car and i know i need to not expect big gains from parts i buy regardless of brand. its going to be different for me to only get 1-4 hp from an intake vs. the 15-20 i picked up on my volvo and the 30hp and 45 torque from its exhaust too. different cars, different power numbers. im sorry for arguing.

11-09-2008, 08:39 PM	#18
kustom play pink wheels are cool View User's Garage Drives: 07 liftback Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 1,407	the thing i dont get is you normally graduate high school at 18 so this dude only has 2 years of schooling and became the head mechanic of a Ferrari dealership? He must of skipped the whole intern process, i mean i cant even teach without a 4 year degree i know the head mechanic of a Ferrari shop and hes an old British dude, looks like an old fisherman who would jump overboard and stab a shark with a harpoon. i cant see them hiring some random 20 year old. heres some pics of the dealership including the sub basement with some hidden treasures: http://kustomplay.multiply.com/photo...rkham_12-28-06 more: http://kustomplay.multiply.com/photo...ow_out_9-20-07