How much abuse can the Yaris take?

[Altitude]

Originally Posted by supmet

You guys understand that in D(drive) the car still shifts, correct?? Whether "I" do it, or "the car" automatically does it, the car shifts.



So I can talk on my phone and eat a cheeseburger at the same time in rush hour traffic.



I can promise you are wrong on this one. My shifter clearly has 3, 2, and L DESIGNED into it. If it was only meant to be put in drive, why would they put those on? The truth is, gear limiting properly extends the life of your transmission, brakes, and engine, and can also save gas with DFCO



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Of course an automatic still shifts while in Drive. You're supposed to put it there 90% of the time and leave it. Not start out in low, shift to 2 then 3 then D... I already explained why there are other gears on the auto - they are meant to be used in specific situations where a lower gearing is needed.

If your original comment was facetious (and it apparently was) you should have stated that.

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[cali yaris]

I'd like to know if the owner has full and complete knowledge of how you drive his/her car, and whether you know you are representing that person when you are driving the car.

These are yes or no questions, by the way.

If yes to both -- I got nothin' to say.

[TheRealEnth]

ignore every1, they are just hating ;D maintenance it regularly and it will be fine

[supmet]

Originally Posted by PK198105

i sincerly hope you are being sarcastic

Of course I was. I only eat and talk on the same phone at the same time if I have a passenger to hold the wheel and shift for me.

Originally Posted by Altitude

Of course an automatic still shifts while in Drive. You're supposed to put it there 90% of the time and leave it. Not start out in low, shift to 2 then 3 then D... I already explained why there are other gears on the auto - they are meant to be used in specific situations where a lower gearing is needed.

You can start in low, shift to 2 then 3 then D, and as long as you aren't revving too high, you aren't doing any damage to anything in the car. You have better control on hills, and coming out of turns, resulting in the transmission jumping up and down unnecessarily - meaning less wear on the transmission. Gear limiting is not bad, and should be used, that's why its there. Bad driving habits are bad.

[Marfulion]

Originally Posted by Altitude

...Not start out in low, shift to 2 then 3 then D...
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That is exactly what i do, lol.

[Altitude]

[Marfulion]

I realize I can just leave in "D", but being first time driving an auto, I really hate it when the car jumps in and out of gears.

[Altitude]

supmet - I never used the word "can't" in anything I stated. I rarely speak in absolutes.

There is a proper way to use any mechanical device and improper use typically leads to early failure. If you know what you are doing you likely won't harm the transmission, but using it like a manual all the time just increases the chances you'll break something or cause it to wear out prematurely. But hey, it's your money and your ride.

Marfulion - the best thing you could do is drive the car like it was your own. If you treat your own cars like shit then knock yourself out and don't worry about it. Though I do think you have some obligation to let the owner know of your lack of consideration for their property.

[ern-diz]

Originally Posted by supmet

Of course I was. I only eat and talk on the same phone at the same time if I have a passenger to hold the wheel and shift for me.

you don't need anyone else to hold the wheel unless you have something against the knee tactic lol...

[Marfulion]

Originally Posted by Altitude

Marfulion - the best thing you could do is drive the car like it was your own. If you treat your own cars like shit then knock yourself out and don't worry about it. Though I do think you have some obligation to let the owner know of your lack of consideration for their property.

You are right, although if it was my car I would still drive it the same way, but then again I am not entirely sure because I know that there is this one dude with over 300000 miles on his yaris on utube and tends to ride it hard every now and then, and then there is also someone I know who had an echo who babys it and it blew a piston at 120k, so I don't really know for sure. But you are right, it is not my car and I should not be driving it like that wasting the tires and risking problems. One thing I do for sure though is kept the car super clean and the owner abuses this car more than I do, freaking leaves taco bell wrapers all over the place with pieces of lettuce and cheese everywhere and cigarette ashes everywhere. lol, but that is his car not mine, but it feels like my car from driving it so much, I don't know how to explain it, but I have somehow become attached to this car

[supmet]

Originally Posted by Altitude

but using it like a manual all the time just increases the chances you'll break something or cause it to wear out prematurely

I came in to this thread just messing around, but you're not getting the point that the statement above is false.

Used properly, gear limiting REDUCES wear on the transmission and brakes, versus keeping it in drive the whole time. Automatic transmissions are smart, but if you think they make the best decision(for wear on the engine) every time, you have entirely too much faith. I'm not the only one who has noticed the "jumpiness" coming out of turns and on hills.

The ONLY thing getting more wear from me gear limiting is the gear selector, and I'll take my chances on that one.

[ddongbap]

Originally Posted by supmet

I came in to this thread just messing around, but you're not getting the point that the statement above is false.

Used properly, gear limiting REDUCES wear on the transmission and brakes, versus keeping it in drive the whole time. Automatic transmissions are smart, but if you think they make the best decision(for wear on the engine) every time, you have entirely too much faith. I'm not the only one who has noticed the "jumpiness" coming out of turns and on hills.

The ONLY thing getting more wear from me gear limiting is the gear selector, and I'll take my chances on that one.

Btw, I was only kidding about the tranny shift thing. You said YOU shift an auto tranny, when the tranny shifts itself, cause its auto.

[roxy1]

Originally Posted by tomato

I think the Yaris has superior handling in the corners

thanks. i needed a good laugh this morning. though i will admit the yaris handles slightly better than a slug with emphysema.

[jambo101]

Originally Posted by Marfulion

Dude you got it wrong, its not like iam driving like a maniac through traffic, you can have the yaris floor from a stop light for awhile and still be within the speedlimit. Where I live I have go back and forth running errands and things and many of the roads I take have little or no traffic and I never drive crazy through them, just cruisingly fast to leave plenty of room for something unexpected.

Originally Posted by Marfulion

I have this car at full throttle almost all the time and I force the downshifts on the auto trans like before every corner. Also every now and then I launch while the auto stick is in "L" and push it up to 2nd right before it hits revlimit, cus normaly it shifts like 250rpms before the redline on "D" and i do same from 2nd to 3rd.

Excuse me for being skeptical

[nerp]

The low gears on an automatic are for hills and other situations in which the automatic isn't optimal. It is not there for you to pretend its a manual transmission. Driving hard and slamming the gears in an auto is a surefire way to destroy the transmission.

[jambo101]

Originally Posted by nerp

The low gears on an automatic are for hills and other situations in which the automatic isn't optimal. It is not there for you to pretend its a manual transmission. Driving hard and slamming the gears in an auto is a surefire way to destroy the transmission.

Dont get the impression that Marfulion really cares about whats good for the car as its the company car so some one else will get to pay for any repairs on the car, also something to remember if ever thinking about buying a used fleet or rental car,

[PETERPOOP]

-1 for auto

[cali yaris]

thanks. i needed a good laugh this morning. though i will admit the yaris handles slightly better than a slug with emphysema.

Power? no. Handling? yes.

I think you have the two confused. The Yaris has excellent handling characteristics with minimal modifications.