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PETERPOOP · 12-01-2009, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by yaris2010RS

if you decided to put turbo, nitro, and what ever other riced out shit....

What an idiotic statement. The things you listed are actually the complete opposite of "RICE."

Race Inspired Cosmetic Enhancements.......

So turbo diesel trucks are riced out?

RacerFreakXXX · 12-01-2009, 02:07 PM

IDK why anyone is worrying about the block or anything like that. If he isn't gonna build the engine and wants to push the limit I'd assume he'd want to do under 180whp. The question is how much is just right. I'm assuming about 160-170 would be the max and is plenty fast enough.

cali yaris · 12-01-2009, 02:40 PM

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if you decided to put turbo, nitro, and what ever other riced out shit you could think of

A turbo is "riced out shit"? -- you just lost 100% of my respect right there, sir.

RacerFreakXXX · 12-01-2009, 03:25 PM

OUCH! you know you crossed the line when you piss Garm off.

Nexus1155 · 12-01-2009, 04:13 PM

Damn then apparently my Audi has twice the amount of rice :-/

Saskatchewan17 · 12-02-2009, 01:54 AM

So it looks like you can't really push the stock block much past 150 WHP without problems with the internals.
12 second Yaris? Not gonna happen unless you have a built engine/turbo, stripped interior, and drag slicks. Even then... I don't know. Launching a FWD car is tricky stuff. I know you can't break into the 12s in an MS3 unless you are fully bolted on and a fantastic driver... or have slicks.
Also, when do you have to up the injector size on the Yaris, and when do you run into fuel pump problems? How much possible WHP can you make on an NA motor?

yaris2010RS · 12-05-2009, 01:55 AM

i'm sorry, but a yaris with a turbo for everyday driving is riced out. my definition of riced out is un needed upgrades not gonna lie, i didn't know there was an actual deffinition. some cars come with a turbo, they are designed to work with a turbo but we are not talking about trucks or other cars, this is about a yaris. for me, work and back, school and back, a turbo on a yaris is a waste, if your gonna race, okay, put a turbo in. it all depends what you plan on doing. yes this is fourm is talking about making a yaris 12 seconds but without total engine mod it can not handle anymore then (i'll even stretch the limit) 200HP, it will blow up. since everyone has a smart ass remark, how else would you get a stock 1.5 L to over 168 HP without rebuilding it and modding it? and as i said before i have no idea what the block 168HP rating is, maybe its the ideal running HP everyone should get their car to, i simply stated there is a rating of 168 HP on the block, take it, do what you want with it. and without lots and lots of engine mods, you will never get a 1.5L over 200HP. driving a yaris with 200HP we are gonna have to send a search party for you on the moon. as i say over and over, revise it a little more at a time, the engine conponents are rated to 168HP, yes you could get away with 170, maybe even 180, after that, toyota has nothing to do with the failure of the engine. if you want to keep it from failure, rebuild the entire thing. yes you can put w.e mods you want and drive like they are not there but whats the point? really it all comes down to you, its your car, your money, the fourms are about sharing knowledge and trying to help out.

AlexNet0 · 12-06-2009, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by yaris2010RS

yes this is fourm is talking about making a yaris 12 seconds but without total engine mod it can not handle anymore then (i'll even stretch the limit) 200HP, it will blow up

you are just blowing smoke. why dont you take the time to read most of the previous posts on the engine builds that people have done with the STOCK block on here.

there is more than one member that has the stock block over 200 tuned.

and its nitrous, not nitro. lol

yaris2010RS · 12-05-2009, 01:57 AM

i am completly down with making a yaris real fast, but most of the stock engine parts will not take the super HP, pray as much as you like, its not changing anytihng about the engine

Brad D · 12-06-2009, 01:28 AM

its more about the tune i bet with most of the engine failures you guys are seeing. with a good tune i bet this motor could see over 200whp all day long.

Brad D · 12-06-2009, 02:12 PM

Every motor people think has a set limit untill someone pushes it.. Same thing happened with the KA-t.. people thought it would not hold past 300whp.. now guys have hit 500.. the 350Z people thought you would need a sleaved block to make any real power.. now people make 1000whp with a stock block with forged pistons and rods...

here is a civic with a non v-tech B18 that we pulled out of the junk yard.. build up a turbo kit and gave it a good tune, we ran the car and draged raced it for two years. one day we got gready and added more power.. the tunner said "today is the day its going to blow" and yep on the dyon we overpowered the cylinder wall.. but guess what the pistons were fine.. you could of reused them.... this was at 375ft.lbs.. that is the limit for that block stock.

here is a a vid, we got it down to 11.1 on a stock motor... never opened up
http://www.youtube.com/user/chummimc#p/u/28/1eonKVSNOtI

PETERPOOP · 12-06-2009, 07:31 PM

Tamango took off his turbo kit awhile ago; thus why it's a NA xA.

My blitz kit made 140whp with 135 tq before i put on a custom overdrive crank pulley which added a couple more lbs of boost and made me at 136whp/140 tq. This was done in Hawaii weather on a dynojet. However, I am going to retune with the ultimate and tune accordingly for more power. I'm also installing a meth/water injection kit; and i have 1zz injectors and run 11-12 AFR at WOT. Nothing lean going on over here.

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Originally Posted by Blown_xa

Im not talking about building a race car, but spending a lot of money to make power should have a purpose other than for daily driving.

In your mind it should.

Blown_xa · 12-06-2009, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by PETERPOOP

Tamango took off his turbo kit awhile ago; thus why it's a NA xA.

My blitz kit made 140whp with 135 tq before i put on a custom overdrive crank pulley which added a couple more lbs of boost and made me at 136whp/140 tq. This was done in Hawaii weather on a dynojet. However, I am going to retune with the ultimate and tune accordingly for more power. I'm also installing a meth/water injection kit; and i have 1zz injectors and run 11-12 AFR at WOT. Nothing lean going on over here.

In your mind it should.

good upgrades. The overdrive pulley is a cool idea im glad somebody made it!
WMI will give you good results.

And yeah, it is my opinion about the racing. But I can voice it right? Don't place me as the bad guy because I believe something. I just would like to see 1.5's beat up on Evos and such on the track. Performance parts are developed for a performance enviornment. But anyone can enjoy extra performance anywhere it's all good. It's much more enjoyable on the track tho as I discovered.

136whp on a dynojet sounds about right. A typical Dynojet reads about 12% higher than our dyno. So that's about 119.

PETERPOOP · 12-07-2009, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Blown_xa

136whp on a dynojet sounds about right. A typical Dynojet reads about 12% higher than our dyno. So that's about 119.

Well we wouldn't really know unless i dynod the same day/same time on a dynojet, then your guy's dyno. However, I know what you are saying.

And most people on here who have dyno'd their blitz kit have not even reached 133whp. So you suggesting that 136whp and what i previously hit before the pulley (140whp) is common for the blitz, I don't think it is. Atleast from the evidence shown so far.

ps: I just got the meth kit installed and running.

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Originally Posted by xen555

the yaris in the 14s is the yaris with corolla's engine

I know about that yaris; however, i remember reading somewhere about a yaris using nitrous that was in the low 14s or maybe even 13s? There was definately one in the states that I believe was in the 14s with just nitrous. He ended up blowing his engine on the strip. He posted a video of it somewhere on this site. He didn't want to say how he had the nitrous set up...

Blown_xa · 12-07-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by PETERPOOP

Well we wouldn't really know unless i dynod the same day/same time on a dynojet, then your guy's dyno. However, I know what you are saying.

And most people on here who have dyno'd their blitz kit have not even reached 133whp. So you suggesting that 136whp and what i previously hit before the pulley (140whp) is common for the blitz, I don't think it is. Atleast from the evidence shown so far.

ps: I just got the meth kit installed and running.

I know about that yaris; however, i remember reading somewhere about a yaris using nitrous that was in the low 14s or maybe even 13s? There was definately one in the states that I believe was in the 14s with just nitrous. He ended up blowing his engine on the strip. He posted a video of it somewhere on this site. He didn't want to say how he had the nitrous set up...

sweet. Post results. What kit did you get? nozzle size? I agree with the whp numbers, it is all relative unless everyone goes to the same dyno in the same enviornment.

why? · 12-06-2009, 07:54 PM

there is nothing wrong with doing something just because you can.

cali yaris · 12-06-2009, 08:04 PM

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i'm sorry, but a yaris with a turbo for everyday driving is riced out.

For YOU. Not for me. Your intolerance for other's projects is what's so lame.

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my definition of riced out is un needed upgrades

oh I see. Like the upgrades on your RS model?

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RacerFreakXXX · 12-06-2009, 11:20 PM

I really think everyone has the wrong idea of a Yaris (and a lot of Japanese cars). I give Garm a lot of credit for what he did but, a Yaris with 120whp can out handle a lot of things on a track. The car is meant for windy roads not going fast down a straight. If that's your goal go buy a new 2010 Camaro v6 for 23k or a used v8 mustang and call it a day.

12-02-2009, 01:54 AM	#6
Saskatchewan17 MS3 Driver Drives: 2008 Mazdaspeed3 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Aurora, IL Posts: 20	So it looks like you can't really push the stock block much past 150 WHP without problems with the internals. 12 second Yaris? Not gonna happen unless you have a built engine/turbo, stripped interior, and drag slicks. Even then... I don't know. Launching a FWD car is tricky stuff. I know you can't break into the 12s in an MS3 unless you are fully bolted on and a fantastic driver... or have slicks. Also, when do you have to up the injector size on the Yaris, and when do you run into fuel pump problems? How much possible WHP can you make on an NA motor? __________________ 08TrueRedMazdaspeed3 -PERFORMANCE: -CP-E SRI - PG TURBO INLET PIPE - GREDDY TYPE S - TRZ REAR MOTOR MOUNT- -OTHER: -STRIPES - EXHAUST RESOS DELETED - BLACKED OUT BADGES - TOWPLATE - HD LIP - - PROSPORT BOOST GAUGE/VENTPOD - STREET UNIT SHIFTER BUSHINGS - TINTED REFLECTORS/SIDE MARKERS/3RD BRAKE LIGHT - SIDE MOLDINGS REMOVED -

12-05-2009, 01:55 AM	#7
yaris2010RS View User's Garage Drives: no-longer-boosted '10 Yaris Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Angus, Ontario Posts: 1,886	i'm sorry, but a yaris with a turbo for everyday driving is riced out. my definition of riced out is un needed upgrades not gonna lie, i didn't know there was an actual deffinition. some cars come with a turbo, they are designed to work with a turbo but we are not talking about trucks or other cars, this is about a yaris. for me, work and back, school and back, a turbo on a yaris is a waste, if your gonna race, okay, put a turbo in. it all depends what you plan on doing. yes this is fourm is talking about making a yaris 12 seconds but without total engine mod it can not handle anymore then (i'll even stretch the limit) 200HP, it will blow up. since everyone has a smart ass remark, how else would you get a stock 1.5 L to over 168 HP without rebuilding it and modding it? and as i said before i have no idea what the block 168HP rating is, maybe its the ideal running HP everyone should get their car to, i simply stated there is a rating of 168 HP on the block, take it, do what you want with it. and without lots and lots of engine mods, you will never get a 1.5L over 200HP. driving a yaris with 200HP we are gonna have to send a search party for you on the moon. as i say over and over, revise it a little more at a time, the engine conponents are rated to 168HP, yes you could get away with 170, maybe even 180, after that, toyota has nothing to do with the failure of the engine. if you want to keep it from failure, rebuild the entire thing. yes you can put w.e mods you want and drive like they are not there but whats the point? really it all comes down to you, its your car, your money, the fourms are about sharing knowledge and trying to help out. __________________ If it has boobs or wheels sooner or later your gonna have problems with it

12-05-2009, 01:57 AM	#9
yaris2010RS View User's Garage Drives: no-longer-boosted '10 Yaris Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Angus, Ontario Posts: 1,886	i am completly down with making a yaris real fast, but most of the stock engine parts will not take the super HP, pray as much as you like, its not changing anytihng about the engine __________________ If it has boobs or wheels sooner or later your gonna have problems with it

12-06-2009, 07:54 PM	#16
why? Only Happy When it Rains View User's Garage Drives: Yaris LB Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: harnett county NC Posts: 4,097	there is nothing wrong with doing something just because you can. __________________ Colin Chapman disciple

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RacerFreakXXX JDM Fred View User's Garage Drives: 06 Mazda Miata Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Somers NY Posts: 787	IDK why anyone is worrying about the block or anything like that. If he isn't gonna build the engine and wants to push the limit I'd assume he'd want to do under 180whp. The question is how much is just right. I'm assuming about 160-170 would be the max and is plenty fast enough.

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RacerFreakXXX JDM Fred View User's Garage Drives: 06 Mazda Miata Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Somers NY Posts: 787	OUCH! you know you crossed the line when you piss Garm off.

12-01-2009, 04:13 PM	#5
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Brad D Drives: 07 Yaris RS 3dr Join Date: May 2009 Location: Winnipeg Posts: 34	its more about the tune i bet with most of the engine failures you guys are seeing. with a good tune i bet this motor could see over 200whp all day long.

12-06-2009, 02:12 PM	#11
Brad D Drives: 07 Yaris RS 3dr Join Date: May 2009 Location: Winnipeg Posts: 34	Every motor people think has a set limit untill someone pushes it.. Same thing happened with the KA-t.. people thought it would not hold past 300whp.. now guys have hit 500.. the 350Z people thought you would need a sleaved block to make any real power.. now people make 1000whp with a stock block with forged pistons and rods... here is a civic with a non v-tech B18 that we pulled out of the junk yard.. build up a turbo kit and gave it a good tune, we ran the car and draged raced it for two years. one day we got gready and added more power.. the tunner said "today is the day its going to blow" and yep on the dyon we overpowered the cylinder wall.. but guess what the pistons were fine.. you could of reused them.... this was at 375ft.lbs.. that is the limit for that block stock. here is a a vid, we got it down to 11.1 on a stock motor... never opened up http://www.youtube.com/user/chummimc#p/u/28/1eonKVSNOtI

12-06-2009, 11:20 PM	#18
RacerFreakXXX JDM Fred View User's Garage Drives: 06 Mazda Miata Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Somers NY Posts: 787	I really think everyone has the wrong idea of a Yaris (and a lot of Japanese cars). I give Garm a lot of credit for what he did but, a Yaris with 120whp can out handle a lot of things on a track. The car is meant for windy roads not going fast down a straight. If that's your goal go buy a new 2010 Camaro v6 for 23k or a used v8 mustang and call it a day.