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fearturtle44 · 01-22-2007, 09:48 AM

Tires would help the Yaris but the Yaris will never be a great "snow" car. That is why the AWD and 4 wheel drive vehicles are out there. But then those cars will never get the MPG as the Yaris. Tradeoff but where I live the snow/ice is not often (though we got snow/ice yesterday).

Kevin

Pars · 01-22-2007, 06:43 PM

AWD isn't the biggest priority for winter conditions, it's the snow tires that are the most important factor. There's too many city slickers driving AWD cars/trucks mated to regular tires who are misguided into thinking they've got a good winter setup. With the AWD system, you might be able to accelerate more quickly on the slick stuff, but it doesn't mean your braking or handling dynamic is any better then the 2 wheel drive. It's the handling and braking capabilities that'll keep you out of the snow filled ditch and snow tires will improve your chances.

I think the Yaris is above average in the snow, even with the small wheelbase (In snow, long wheel base is usually ideal combined with light weight). The Yaris has a good braking system (with the ABS) and good handling dynamics and is very light. All it needs in some snow tires to make it shine.

sambo42xa · 01-23-2007, 06:50 AM

[COLOR="Red"]I'm in Southern, NH and we have had some light snow here (snow far)...not counting the ice storm we had last week. My Yaris had crap for traction on light snow with the stock tires (GoodYear) that have only 5500 miles on them and my speed was with caution on the back "curvy roads" here in town

. This is my first winter with this car and I was taking it easy to see how she would handle. On straight runs....fine, no problem. And yes, I have traveled these same roads before with previous vehicles with no problems. Maybe I will invest in some winter rubber for next year. Can't afford new rubber at this time right now. I'd like to find a set of rims first

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I'm not saying the Yaris sucks in the snow, I'm saying mine does not have good traction on crap for snow on curvy roads at cautious speed/s. I got the stock GoodYear on mine. Funny thing is, we have not had a storm yet and it's almost the end of January!!!
....let it snow, let it snow, let it snow.........la,la,la,la,la,la...........
sambo42xa
Southern, NH
21* degree's here right now.

Pars · 01-23-2007, 06:27 PM

I believe the 07 Yaris, here in Canada, are equipped with Bridgestone Potenza, which are OK in snow for all year tires. It's a good thing that they burn out quickly, since I'm looking forward to replacing them for dedicated winter tires and get a new set of alloys for the summer.

sambo42xa · 01-24-2007, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by sambo42xa

[COLOR="Red"]I'm in Southern, NH and we have had some light snow here (snow far)...not counting the ice storm we had last week. My Yaris had crap for traction on light snow with the stock tires (GoodYear) that have only 5500 miles on them and my speed was with caution on the back "curvy roads" here in town

. This is my first winter with this car and I was taking it easy to see how she would handle. On straight runs....fine, no problem. And yes, I have traveled these same roads before with previous vehicles with no problems. Maybe I will invest in some winter rubber for next year. Can't afford new rubber at this time right now. I'd like to find a set of rims first

.
I'm not saying the Yaris sucks in the snow, I'm saying mine does not have good traction on crap for snow on curvy roads at cautious speed/s. I got the stock GoodYear on mine. Funny thing is, we have not had a storm yet and it's almost the end of January!!!
....let it snow, let it snow, let it snow.........la,la,la,la,la,la...........
sambo42xa
Southern, NH
21* degree's here right now.

"crap for traction", "crap for snow"..........oop's, sorry..for those of you who do not know this slang.....it means " is not worth S H I T". Just in case you were wondering.

spkrman · 01-22-2007, 01:27 PM

handled great when I was spinning around a parkin lot yesterday! Thats the best part of snow, and a handbrake :)

spkrman · 01-30-2007, 10:38 PM

heated mirrors... yes... without a doubt! This is something I could definitely go for, and something I'm gonna have to look into.

YANGSTER · 02-14-2007, 09:16 AM

Hamilton got a huge dump yesterday. here is the result.
Snow Day!!!!

Jem_hadar · 02-14-2007, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by YANGSTER

Hamilton got a huge dump yesterday. here is the result.
Snow Day!!!!

Freaking NIIICE! I love the look of fresh snow on the the world (and a Yaris)

hystria · 02-15-2007, 07:40 AM

The Yaris handle very well in the snow, it is stable and the rear end doesn't break loose at all - everything is stock except the tires. The only issue is traction, the car weights nothing. One thing to mention too, the clutch was already not very easy to use on dry, now if the car is stuck in the snow it is hard as heck to get out because of the way the clutch grips - it looks like it's hard to have the wheels turning at a low speed.
Here is a pic taken this morning

Jem_hadar · 02-15-2007, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by hystria

Here is a pic taken this morning

^5 solid.
Lets keep the Yaris in snowy world pictures comin'!

Violin · 02-14-2007, 11:54 AM

We had a nasty ice/snow storm overnight. The roads were about as bad as I've ever seen them. My Yaris was surprisingly competent with the stock Potenzas and ABS.

YANGSTER · 02-14-2007, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Violin

We had a nasty ice/snow storm overnight. The roads were about as bad as I've ever seen them. My Yaris was surprisingly competent with the stock Potenzas and ABS.

i think it was the same system....we got abt 70 cm or 28" yesterday.
Cheers.

firefly1_0 · 02-14-2007, 02:22 PM

a heavy rear sway bar in the back would make the rear end break loose even more then without one.

boris13 · 02-15-2007, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by firefly1_0

a heavy rear sway bar in the back would make the rear end break loose even more then without one.

So you're saying that adding a rear sway bar would be useless? Or should a thicker-than-stock front sway bar be added as well, if a rear bar is installed?

firefly1_0 · 02-15-2007, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by boris13

So you're saying that adding a rear sway bar would be useless? Or should a thicker-than-stock front sway bar be added as well, if a rear bar is installed?

in slippery/snowy conditions yes, i think a heavy one is a waste of time...

in some cases a front sway is usless...

in my racecar i have a 24mm sway bar in the rear and the stock 15mm in the front. if the track is hot i remove the front one and its all the more better.

Violin · 02-15-2007, 02:52 PM

The rear sway bar does help to keep the front wheels where you want them though. I've never spun out in a front wheel drive car (but that's not to say I never will).

Pars · 02-15-2007, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Violin

The rear sway bar does help to keep the front wheels where you want them though. I've never spun out in a front wheel drive car (but that's not to say I never will).

I've had my share of unplanned spin-outs in a front-drive. Not a pleasant experience. If the conditions are slick, having a rear end that stays planted is a priority. With the rear drive, the accelerator will tell how much glue you got in the rear end, not so with the front drive and when it brakes loose, it does so with very little warning (assuming slick condition)... If you live up north and plan to get oversized swaybars in the rear, good luck to ya...

02-14-2007, 09:16 AM	#8
YANGSTER Drives: SILVER YARIS 2007 5DR Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Kitchener, ON, CANADA Posts: 126	Hamilton got a huge dump yesterday. here is the result. Snow Day!!!! Attached Images

02-15-2007, 07:40 AM	#10
hystria Drives: 2007 Orange Yaris Hb 3Drs Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Montreal-Canada Posts: 262	The Yaris handle very well in the snow, it is stable and the rear end doesn't break loose at all - everything is stock except the tires. The only issue is traction, the car weights nothing. One thing to mention too, the clutch was already not very easy to use on dry, now if the car is stuck in the snow it is hard as heck to get out because of the way the clutch grips - it looks like it's hard to have the wheels turning at a low speed. Here is a pic taken this morning Attached Images

02-14-2007, 02:22 PM	#14
firefly1_0 What the...? Drives: '06 Blazing Blue 3 door RS. Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Edmonton Alberta Canada Posts: 88	a heavy rear sway bar in the back would make the rear end break loose even more then without one. __________________ my other car is still faster... ...and the engine is way smaller. silly ricer, useless wings are for penguins...

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01-22-2007, 09:48 AM	#1
fearturtle44 Drives: S Flint Mica Join Date: May 2006 Location: Virginia Posts: 209	Tires would help the Yaris but the Yaris will never be a great "snow" car. That is why the AWD and 4 wheel drive vehicles are out there. But then those cars will never get the MPG as the Yaris. Tradeoff but where I live the snow/ice is not often (though we got snow/ice yesterday). Kevin

01-22-2007, 06:43 PM	#2
Pars Drives: 07 Yaris Liftback Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 418	AWD isn't the biggest priority for winter conditions, it's the snow tires that are the most important factor. There's too many city slickers driving AWD cars/trucks mated to regular tires who are misguided into thinking they've got a good winter setup. With the AWD system, you might be able to accelerate more quickly on the slick stuff, but it doesn't mean your braking or handling dynamic is any better then the 2 wheel drive. It's the handling and braking capabilities that'll keep you out of the snow filled ditch and snow tires will improve your chances. I think the Yaris is above average in the snow, even with the small wheelbase (In snow, long wheel base is usually ideal combined with light weight). The Yaris has a good braking system (with the ABS) and good handling dynamics and is very light. All it needs in some snow tires to make it shine.

01-23-2007, 06:50 AM	#3
sambo42xa Drives: 07 YARIS Automatic/LiftBac/Red Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Southern NH- USA Posts: 144	[COLOR="Red"]I'm in Southern, NH and we have had some light snow here (snow far)...not counting the ice storm we had last week. My Yaris had crap for traction on light snow with the stock tires (GoodYear) that have only 5500 miles on them and my speed was with caution on the back "curvy roads" here in town . This is my first winter with this car and I was taking it easy to see how she would handle. On straight runs....fine, no problem. And yes, I have traveled these same roads before with previous vehicles with no problems. Maybe I will invest in some winter rubber for next year. Can't afford new rubber at this time right now. I'd like to find a set of rims first . I'm not saying the Yaris sucks in the snow, I'm saying mine does not have good traction on crap for snow on curvy roads at cautious speed/s. I got the stock GoodYear on mine. Funny thing is, we have not had a storm yet and it's almost the end of January!!! ....let it snow, let it snow, let it snow.........la,la,la,la,la,la........... sambo42xa Southern, NH 21* degree's here right now.

01-23-2007, 06:27 PM	#4
Pars Drives: 07 Yaris Liftback Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 418	I believe the 07 Yaris, here in Canada, are equipped with Bridgestone Potenza, which are OK in snow for all year tires. It's a good thing that they burn out quickly, since I'm looking forward to replacing them for dedicated winter tires and get a new set of alloys for the summer.

01-22-2007, 01:27 PM	#6
spkrman Banned View User's Garage Drives: 1 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: 2 Posts: 1,476	handled great when I was spinning around a parkin lot yesterday! Thats the best part of snow, and a handbrake :)

01-30-2007, 10:38 PM	#7
spkrman Banned View User's Garage Drives: 1 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: 2 Posts: 1,476	heated mirrors... yes... without a doubt! This is something I could definitely go for, and something I'm gonna have to look into.

02-14-2007, 11:54 AM	#12
Violin View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris LB Auto Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,592	We had a nasty ice/snow storm overnight. The roads were about as bad as I've ever seen them. My Yaris was surprisingly competent with the stock Potenzas and ABS.

02-15-2007, 02:52 PM	#17
Violin View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris LB Auto Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,592	The rear sway bar does help to keep the front wheels where you want them though. I've never spun out in a front wheel drive car (but that's not to say I never will).