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Old 02-21-2013, 08:21 AM   #1
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As far as dealers not wanting the car I have 2 thoughts...

Either they knew I would refuse whatever they offered knowing that they couldn't give me a lot for it... The car is in awesome shape and only just over 100kms
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They know the FRS and BRZ are selling as fast as they can get them so just plain selling it outright with no trade perhaps has more advantages to them? (just a guess)
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Old 02-21-2013, 08:39 AM   #2
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Most dealers have wholesalers they work with to unload high mileage/old cars that they don't want to sell on the lot. These wholesalers often just auction off cars at a local auto auction. There's a buyer for just about anything unless the car is ready for the scrap heap.

So it's very odd that they wouldn't even take a clean late model car. A manual Yaris isn't that hard to sell.
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Old 02-21-2013, 09:55 AM   #3
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I saw a 2010 fully loaded type-s hatchback, manual in yellow. Toyota certified with only 6k miles on the clock. Was owned by a Toyota exec who only had it a year. The dealer was asking 15k, I called the dealer and said the most I would offer is 11k, he took my info and said it would "never" happen, anyway got a call a couple months later dealer called me and said "come and get it"..apparently 5 speeds and yellow aren't popular in California which is fine by me
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Old 02-21-2013, 07:51 PM   #4
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apparently 5 speeds and yellow aren't popular in California which is fine by me
Yellow has the second longest wavelength (after Red), but is considered the most stimulating color...all the better to catch the eye of LEOs re some non radar violation . An insurance agent in California once told me that it costs more to insure a Yellow car in California (than other colors). However, I can see why you wanted that car . I used to see a Yaris that looked just like what you describe often parked in front of the Borders in San Rafael, CA. It looked great. Owner = ? I never did see anyone near the car.
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Old 02-21-2013, 07:34 PM   #5
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Most dealers have wholesalers they work with to unload high mileage/old cars that they don't want to sell on the lot. These wholesalers often just auction off cars at a local auto auction.
^^^^^ This. I imagine in my case it would have been virtually impossible for 'my' wholesaler (who happened to be at the Toyota dealer at the same time I was) to not have made money. Since I was on a solo trip, he made my issue of an extra car go away (and I don't think I'd have gained that much if my car had happened to give out 'safety wise' in my home area rather than on a trip).
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Old 02-25-2013, 06:22 PM   #6
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A Subaru WRX is a good deal, the STi though is a bit overweight and overpriced. BRZ is awesome too. I have been a huge Subaru fan for a long time, the fact that everything comes with AWD is a gigantic plus for me. I wish more manufacturers would do that.

I will say the new CVT's are amazing. My mother has a 2003 Murano, and It is great to drive. The original transmission lasted 260,000 miles or so, and getting another one actually was about the same as any other automatic. The gas mileage on the car is not really good, but she has a lead foot, and it is a gigantic and powerful engine.

With the new transmissions and electronics coming, you could even program in how good you want your gas mileage. Like the throttle controllers you can buy, but straight from the factory, and able to limit power and acceleration, or make it better.
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Old 02-25-2013, 08:51 PM   #7
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the fact that everything comes with AWD is a gigantic plus for me. I wish more manufacturers would do that.
Umm.. Everything has AWD?
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Old 02-26-2013, 09:50 AM   #8
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Umm.. Everything has AWD?
yea, before the BRZ anyways, all Subarus came with awd. And good awd, not phoney fake part time awd.
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Old 02-25-2013, 09:08 PM   #9
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A Subaru WRX is a good deal, the STi though is a bit overweight and overpriced. BRZ is awesome too. I have been a huge Subaru fan for a long time, the fact that everything comes with AWD is a gigantic plus for me. I wish more manufacturers would do that.

I will say the new CVT's are amazing. My mother has a 2003 Murano, and It is great to drive. The original transmission lasted 260,000 miles or so, and getting another one actually was about the same as any other automatic. The gas mileage on the car is not really good, but she has a lead foot, and it is a gigantic and powerful engine.

With the new transmissions and electronics coming, you could even program in how good you want your gas mileage. Like the throttle controllers you can buy, but straight from the factory, and able to limit power and acceleration, or make it better.
The article in Motor trend also hinted that Subaru will also likely put this turbo engine from the 2014 Forester XT in a future BRZ Turbo and in a WRX.
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Old 02-26-2013, 03:03 AM   #10
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Just thumbed through the April Car and Driver on a quick trip to Kroger before they closed. The cover story caught my eye --- 25 cars worth waiting for -- 2 intrigued me the most ---- The 2014 Fiesta ST --- only available with a 6-speed manual......and the 2014 Ferrari F70 -- approximately 900 horsepower and lighter than a Yaris....and with an automatic transmission.

Toward the end of the issue is a test drive of the Fiesta 1.0 ( bronsin dream car? ) -- a 3 cylinder turbo with 123 HP and 43 MPG hwy and high 30s city. To be 15k base (14k base plus 1k for the 3 cylinder engine option).
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Old 02-26-2013, 07:52 PM   #11
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The Nissan dealer took my mom's 96 Geo Prism with 280k+ miles on it and a salvage title in trade for their new $10k Versa sedan.

They gave her $200 for it, but they took it. I don't get how dealers get to be choosy, other than the fact that the BRZ / FRZ are probably selling like hotcakes and they're not making any deals. Maybe they were not interested in haggling over trade-in values. Just full MSRP in / out, and calling out "next".
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Old 02-26-2013, 08:09 PM   #12
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The Nissan dealer took my mom's 96 Geo Prism with 280k+ miles on it and a salvage title in trade for their new $10k Versa sedan.

They gave her $200 for it, but they took it. I don't get how dealers get to be choosy, other than the fact that the BRZ / FRZ are probably selling like hotcakes and they're not making any deals. Maybe they were not interested in haggling over trade-in values. Just full MSRP in / out, and calling out "next".
Dealers can do anything they want. One thing that was not mentioned is whether the car was modified or not. But either way, it is certainly unusual for a dealer to not at least make a lowball offer.
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Old 02-27-2013, 03:26 PM   #13
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Dealers can do anything they want. One thing that was not mentioned is whether the car was modified or not. But either way, it is certainly unusual for a dealer to not at least make a lowball offer.
The car actually is slightly modified but the dealer didn't even look out the window at it and I didn't tell them that, I just said AC, Cruise 5spd 2dr HB, indash satnav etc.

I'll be quite happy to keep it for winters, though financially it will be a little tougher.
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Old 03-04-2013, 04:13 PM   #14
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The car actually is slightly modified but the dealer didn't even look out the window at it and I didn't tell them that, I just said AC, Cruise 5spd 2dr HB, indash satnav etc.

I'll be quite happy to keep it for winters, though financially it will be a little tougher.
Sounds like you've already made the choice to keep driving your Yaris for now.

Why not wait until the FRS/BRZ is no longer THAT hot? If/when the stars align for you, one thing that helped me in selling my Yaris was over $4 gas. When gas gets expensive, my Yaris sold (to Carmax) for $1500 more than I was expecting to get. I asked then why so high... they said when gas is $$$, 4-cylinder anything sells.
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Old 02-26-2013, 09:16 PM   #15
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The Nissan dealer took my mom's 96 Geo Prism with 280k+ miles on it and a salvage title in trade for their new $10k Versa sedan.

They gave her $200 for it, but they took it. I don't get how dealers get to be choosy, other than the fact that the BRZ / FRZ are probably selling like hotcakes and they're not making any deals. Maybe they were not interested in haggling over trade-in values. Just full MSRP in / out, and calling out "next".
Yep. Having something that is hot or hard to find means they don't have to make accommodations that they think don't make sense. My General Manager knew I wasn't doing to walk away if they refused a trade and had me sell it to their wholesaler (for $50.00...Blue Book = zero...couldn't keep it...I was on a trip).......he knew he had one of only 5 manual transmission 3-doors in the entire Northeast.
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Old 03-04-2014, 08:40 AM   #16
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Old 01-29-2015, 09:59 PM   #17
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Manual transmission cars sit on the lot far longer than autos here in the US.

The dealer came off $2000 off the asking price because it had been on the lot a while and because it's a manual.

Personally, I'll only ever buy a manual tranny car.
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Surprised to read they wouldn't take your Yaris on trade. Last I looked into it around here, these cars were holding value quite well and reselling for not a whole lot less than I paid for mine new.
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