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Hileds · 04-30-2007, 08:38 AM

Hello fellas, anyway yes the site looks better and the online checkout will be directed to our distributor, Eclipse. We will let you know when that is ready which should be soon so please be patient, it will be worth it. You'll also notice our product line will never be sold on Ebay as we support our dealers. We are working hard on our LED applications and seeing is believing. Compare our products side by side with any competitors LED products and the truth will truly be seen, you can take all the led pics of what you put in your vehicle but the experience is not truly known without the products set side by side for real life comparison. Our LED products are put to extreme test and I mean extreme! Try crossing hot and ground and arc the wires till you see smoke and see if your leds still work, can they take the surges and resistance when the power is not correct? Our leds are designed to higher standards we've yet to see in any LED product in the current market. Seems everyones concern is pricing which is understandable and we took that into consideration but hey who's kidding who? do we want to sell a cheaply over manufactured product? that's why there are many of those type of companies out there, our belief is to have the very best and consumers like yourself are the ones who can testify our products. The way we see things is like you can buy your wife a cubic zirconia, looks OK or you can get her the real deal that shows but it costs more. Keep these in mind, I know some of you are hesitant but need to hear from someone who has done comparisons with our product line. We have mentioned to our dealers to find any led product to test against ours and we've yet to see anything that can compare to our line of products. I know our product line is not as large as anyone elses and the main reason is we don't buy already made products that aren't to our strict requirements, any one can do that, you don't have to buy online from these sites and buy direct and save yourself money and we know that. We have contracts with the best LED chip manufactures overseas and I can say China is not one of them. We are receiving new Festoons for tighter fit applications shortly this week so keep an eye for those, if you loved our PC festoons you'll love our new festoons. Our new T-10's came in for evaluation testing and it's design was well thought of. Technology at it's finest! when it goes through our extreme testing and passes, you kind Yaris owners will be the first consumers online to evaluate them. We will offer a special one time discount when they are available to sell.
Thanks for your time to read this long note but surely it's well worth it.

Bob - Hileds

*Chris07LB* · 04-30-2007, 10:11 AM

A bump for some HiLED installed products...

Kaotic Lazagna · 04-30-2007, 06:17 PM

yes, i have compared HiLEDs with superbrightled and varad. you can find a thread i made here. i really do think that HiLEDs are the best for your money. notice how i said money and not "buck". yeah, superbrightleds are nice, but the quality of the HiLEDs are so much better. and the new 194 comes with a surge protector that makes it so that the LED's don't burn out in case of an electrical spike.

R0ME0 · 04-30-2007, 07:52 PM

but if you compare costs. I'd rather spend less and if they really blow out years down the line i'll replace them and still pay less than the Hileds. Thats how I see it.

*Chris07LB* · 04-30-2007, 08:30 PM

Everyone has their opinions.

Some rather pay a few times a year if their's blow out, some rather spend the extra money knowing they bought the best, once.

Everyone's entitled to spend their money as they please.

Hileds · 05-01-2007, 02:11 AM

Romeo, we can relate and justify your meaning and it is one of the important things we've considered before even starting our line of products. Our products were designed for long term endurance and was intended to be the best choice of those who have vehicles running a lot of aftermarket 12v products in their vehicle to handle the surges. We could cut corners like use cheaper led chips and leave out the circuit protection and sell them cheap, they'll be as bright but eventually loose it's brightness overtime and even burn out and that's not what we have in mind. Our prices are very justifiable in every way esp. if you consider the cost and time put into our products. Our product line obviously isn't going to be for everyone looking for LED lighting but for the demanding few, from what we've tested, it's as good as it gets. As mentioned earlier if you compare side by side in brightness and stress test you will eventually see the other leds fade away in overall color and brightness. Every day you see your led turn on but you can't tell if it has lost 20% in output because you use it daily but compare after a few hundred hours and you'll notice at least a 20% decrease in output compared to when it was new. We've been testing bulbs and logged thousands of hours of continuous stress testing and have considered the cost of either going with a shorter lifespan bulb and increase current to make brighter and sell for less or go for the more reliable and bright type bulb. Our new design T-10 is going through testing as we speak utilizing 9 chips for color and brightness stability, to this day there is no comparison so when these pass our test, they will become available for everyone to test. We throwing both ac and dc current through them to 18V and running down to a resisted 7V going up and down repeatedly and finally cross the pos and neg to arc test the circuit protection. See if the other led bulbs out there can handle that. We have a drawer full of blown LEDs given to us as samples from many LED manufacturers already, most of them didn't even pass the first 100 hours. Again you must evaluate accordingly and you can make good judgement afterwards. There is always a reason why there are cheaper cost products out there, this is a world of degrading quality products. Look at the world of 12v products and tell me products are getting better and cheaper, who's kidding who? Products this day and age are mostly designed to be disposable, sad world and it seems the only way to get a good product is to cough out the dough, we knew it would end up this way but that's the way it is unfortunately.

Bob - Hileds

eTiMaGo · 05-01-2007, 02:33 AM

I agree with ya, Bob, everyone loves a bargain, but now, so often a cheap price also means a cheap product.
But like Chris said, it depends on your own opinion, if you're happy enough to replace a busted cheap LED each time, that's fine in the short term, but remember that costs can add up...
Personally I'd rather (and will) go with HiLEDs and get peace of mind, they are expensive, yes, but not overpriced.

Kaotic Lazagna · 05-01-2007, 02:54 AM

yes, i want the best for my Yaris. that's why i'm sticking to HiLEDs.

*Chris07LB* · 05-01-2007, 08:22 AM

19,000 miles on my less then a year old Yaris, and not a lick of problems with the HiLEDs or Eclipse HIDs.

I have also tested and am currently running more of Bob's products in our other 2 trucks with the same great results.

Im a believer.

eTiMaGo · 05-01-2007, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris07LB

Im a believer.

Then I saw your LEDs, now I'm a believer!
Not a trace of bulbs in my car!
I use LEDs, now I'm a believer,
I couldn't leave HiLEDs if I tried......

ahem...

Kaotic Lazagna · 05-01-2007, 02:47 PM

exactly, HiLEDs is a gread company who makes great products.

brickhardmeat · 05-01-2007, 11:47 PM

It is nice to know that there is a company out there, HILEDS, that actually takes pride in there product and the development of a better product than the rest. I have both Chinese made LED's and HILEDS LED's they don't compare. While I am comfortable using the Chinese LED's for certain applications they are not as bright and the company that sells them offers no inforamation regarding life span, product testing, quality etc. Also the seller of the Chinese LED warns against using ANY of their LED's in your headlight housing due to heat concerns. They are simply peddling a cheap LED, NOT HILEDS.

Sway84 · 05-03-2007, 01:30 AM

i need to know how you put that side assembly marker bulb in! ...i believe its the 7507a? but i was told its an assembly piece and you cant change the bulb...anyone have the DIY help?

brickhardmeat · 05-03-2007, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sway84

i need to know how you put that side assembly marker bulb in! ...i believe its the 7507a? but i was told its an assembly piece and you cant change the bulb...anyone have the DIY help?

yeah, Chris did one

got a saw?

I thought it was another 194 wedge. I might be wrong.

*Chris07LB* · 05-03-2007, 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sway84

i need to know how you put that side assembly marker bulb in! ...i believe its the 7507a? but i was told its an assembly piece and you cant change the bulb...anyone have the DIY help?

Search the DIY section.. i did a step by step how to. Yes, its a 194 also.

04-30-2007, 08:38 AM	#37
Hileds Drives: SUVs, Sedans & Exotics Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sacramento, California Posts: 26	Bulb comparisons Hello fellas, anyway yes the site looks better and the online checkout will be directed to our distributor, Eclipse. We will let you know when that is ready which should be soon so please be patient, it will be worth it. You'll also notice our product line will never be sold on Ebay as we support our dealers. We are working hard on our LED applications and seeing is believing. Compare our products side by side with any competitors LED products and the truth will truly be seen, you can take all the led pics of what you put in your vehicle but the experience is not truly known without the products set side by side for real life comparison. Our LED products are put to extreme test and I mean extreme! Try crossing hot and ground and arc the wires till you see smoke and see if your leds still work, can they take the surges and resistance when the power is not correct? Our leds are designed to higher standards we've yet to see in any LED product in the current market. Seems everyones concern is pricing which is understandable and we took that into consideration but hey who's kidding who? do we want to sell a cheaply over manufactured product? that's why there are many of those type of companies out there, our belief is to have the very best and consumers like yourself are the ones who can testify our products. The way we see things is like you can buy your wife a cubic zirconia, looks OK or you can get her the real deal that shows but it costs more. Keep these in mind, I know some of you are hesitant but need to hear from someone who has done comparisons with our product line. We have mentioned to our dealers to find any led product to test against ours and we've yet to see anything that can compare to our line of products. I know our product line is not as large as anyone elses and the main reason is we don't buy already made products that aren't to our strict requirements, any one can do that, you don't have to buy online from these sites and buy direct and save yourself money and we know that. We have contracts with the best LED chip manufactures overseas and I can say China is not one of them. We are receiving new Festoons for tighter fit applications shortly this week so keep an eye for those, if you loved our PC festoons you'll love our new festoons. Our new T-10's came in for evaluation testing and it's design was well thought of. Technology at it's finest! when it goes through our extreme testing and passes, you kind Yaris owners will be the first consumers online to evaluate them. We will offer a special one time discount when they are available to sell. Thanks for your time to read this long note but surely it's well worth it. Bob - Hileds

04-30-2007, 07:52 PM	#40
R0ME0 Drives: '00 Toyota Celica GTS Turbo Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 158	but if you compare costs. I'd rather spend less and if they really blow out years down the line i'll replace them and still pay less than the Hileds. Thats how I see it. __________________

05-01-2007, 02:11 AM	#42
Hileds Drives: SUVs, Sedans & Exotics Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sacramento, California Posts: 26	LED comparisons Romeo, we can relate and justify your meaning and it is one of the important things we've considered before even starting our line of products. Our products were designed for long term endurance and was intended to be the best choice of those who have vehicles running a lot of aftermarket 12v products in their vehicle to handle the surges. We could cut corners like use cheaper led chips and leave out the circuit protection and sell them cheap, they'll be as bright but eventually loose it's brightness overtime and even burn out and that's not what we have in mind. Our prices are very justifiable in every way esp. if you consider the cost and time put into our products. Our product line obviously isn't going to be for everyone looking for LED lighting but for the demanding few, from what we've tested, it's as good as it gets. As mentioned earlier if you compare side by side in brightness and stress test you will eventually see the other leds fade away in overall color and brightness. Every day you see your led turn on but you can't tell if it has lost 20% in output because you use it daily but compare after a few hundred hours and you'll notice at least a 20% decrease in output compared to when it was new. We've been testing bulbs and logged thousands of hours of continuous stress testing and have considered the cost of either going with a shorter lifespan bulb and increase current to make brighter and sell for less or go for the more reliable and bright type bulb. Our new design T-10 is going through testing as we speak utilizing 9 chips for color and brightness stability, to this day there is no comparison so when these pass our test, they will become available for everyone to test. We throwing both ac and dc current through them to 18V and running down to a resisted 7V going up and down repeatedly and finally cross the pos and neg to arc test the circuit protection. See if the other led bulbs out there can handle that. We have a drawer full of blown LEDs given to us as samples from many LED manufacturers already, most of them didn't even pass the first 100 hours. Again you must evaluate accordingly and you can make good judgement afterwards. There is always a reason why there are cheaper cost products out there, this is a world of degrading quality products. Look at the world of 12v products and tell me products are getting better and cheaper, who's kidding who? Products this day and age are mostly designed to be disposable, sad world and it seems the only way to get a good product is to cough out the dough, we knew it would end up this way but that's the way it is unfortunately. Bob - Hileds

05-01-2007, 02:33 AM	#43
eTiMaGo vroom vroom View User's Garage Drives: lil red 5-door Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 7,744	I agree with ya, Bob, everyone loves a bargain, but now, so often a cheap price also means a cheap product. But like Chris said, it depends on your own opinion, if you're happy enough to replace a busted cheap LED each time, that's fine in the short term, but remember that costs can add up... Personally I'd rather (and will) go with HiLEDs and get peace of mind, they are expensive, yes, but not overpriced. __________________ The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish. - Robert Jackson Bye bye 1NZ...

05-01-2007, 11:47 PM	#48
brickhardmeat Lonesome Cowboy View User's Garage Drives: 2007 WHITE HATCHBACK Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Inner City, Dallas Posts: 2,995	It is nice to know that there is a company out there, HILEDS, that actually takes pride in there product and the development of a better product than the rest. I have both Chinese made LED's and HILEDS LED's they don't compare. While I am comfortable using the Chinese LED's for certain applications they are not as bright and the company that sells them offers no inforamation regarding life span, product testing, quality etc. Also the seller of the Chinese LED warns against using ANY of their LED's in your headlight housing due to heat concerns. They are simply peddling a cheap LED, NOT HILEDS. __________________ SPONSORED BY

04-30-2007, 06:17 PM	#39
Kaotic Lazagna View User's Garage Drives: '14 GT86, '08 Vitz Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Central Valley, CA Posts: 9,873	yes, i have compared HiLEDs with superbrightled and varad. you can find a thread i made here. i really do think that HiLEDs are the best for your money. notice how i said money and not "buck". yeah, superbrightleds are nice, but the quality of the HiLEDs are so much better. and the new 194 comes with a surge protector that makes it so that the LED's don't burn out in case of an electrical spike.

04-30-2007, 08:30 PM	#41
Chris07LB Super Moderator View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Liftback Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 3,174	Everyone has their opinions. Some rather pay a few times a year if their's blow out, some rather spend the extra money knowing they bought the best, once. Everyone's entitled to spend their money as they please.

05-01-2007, 02:54 AM	#44
Kaotic Lazagna View User's Garage Drives: '14 GT86, '08 Vitz Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Central Valley, CA Posts: 9,873	yes, i want the best for my Yaris. that's why i'm sticking to HiLEDs.

05-01-2007, 08:22 AM	#45
Chris07LB Super Moderator View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Liftback Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 3,174	19,000 miles on my less then a year old Yaris, and not a lick of problems with the HiLEDs or Eclipse HIDs. I have also tested and am currently running more of Bob's products in our other 2 trucks with the same great results. Im a believer.

05-01-2007, 02:47 PM	#47
Kaotic Lazagna View User's Garage Drives: '14 GT86, '08 Vitz Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Central Valley, CA Posts: 9,873	exactly, HiLEDs is a gread company who makes great products.

05-03-2007, 01:30 AM	#49
Sway84 View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris HB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Toronto Ontario Canada Posts: 309	i need to know how you put that side assembly marker bulb in! ...i believe its the 7507a? but i was told its an assembly piece and you cant change the bulb...anyone have the DIY help?

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