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Old 08-03-2007, 04:53 PM   #1
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I'd get an ITb kit for shitsngiggles if it was like 1500 - once you pass 2000, its moving into turbo kit territory...why get the regular value meal when I can supersize for .35 more? at that point (Or used to be able to supersize, before all those w/ no will power and cant say no took my larger fries and drink away..)
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Old 08-03-2007, 05:24 PM   #2
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Excellent analogy!! I like that :)
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Old 08-03-2007, 10:40 PM   #3
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also you have to realize that the Levin motor has more junk in front than back...lol, in short, less headers and more intake... makes sense to just make it fit
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Old 08-04-2007, 11:09 AM   #4
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what about swapping in a turbo starlet motor like ive seen in a couple of xa's???
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Old 08-04-2007, 11:54 AM   #5
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I thought this was a thread about ITB's. Then I found myself wading through engine swap posts.... again. Meanwhile, legit questions about the ITB setup weren't attended to.

I'm interested in an ITB setup, and I'd like to follow Danstoy's progress and see what comes of it. Maybe a dedicated engine-swap area/thread would serve us better?

1. How is management achieved when it's well known that the Yaris ECU is resistant and pesky?
2. I know Coi, and I know he ran a carbon fiber hood company into the ground. Is there reasonable assurance of any product quality and/or customer service from Danstoy?
3. Whoever posted about the Scion market not being interested was correct. However, I'm not sure the xA/xB market (tC excluded) is the same as our Yaris market. There seems to be more interest in aggressive aftermarket performance here.
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Old 08-04-2007, 02:05 PM   #6
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I like the way it looks, but am worried about filtration.
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Old 08-04-2007, 02:13 PM   #7
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you mean, like there isn't any? lol

guess we'll see what they have in mind...
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Old 08-04-2007, 02:29 PM   #8
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Man, I google the ITB's for a couple hours and still don't fully understand what they allow you to do. I didn't see any setups with turbo's although people in this thread said they'll work together... I didn't find anything on how the tuning would work with these... Basically, I suck and dunno why this product excites people except for the fact that it looks crazy cool....

This is basically an intake upgrade that on it's own may net a couple HP? But since the sensor is missing the ecu will be pissed, throw a CEL and all that, so you have to add the engine management to the setup right? And that management allows you to do what exactly? Increase timing? Air/fuel ratio? Run higher octane fuel? How does this really make more power on a little engine like ours?

I'm a computer guy... I kinda understand how an engine works... but honestly I don't fully understand all of it. This product doesn't seem all that great to me except for the fact that some people are claiming that this package could net 25-30whp which to me is EXACTLY what the yaris needs...

Which is why it interests me greatly, but I can't seem to find much info on it! Can anyone explain the pro's and cons of this product? Would be seriously appreciated. I've been patiently waiting for more power products to come out and if this is really all it's cracked up to be then I may be all over it...
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Old 08-04-2007, 08:27 PM   #9
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wrblue, ty for the explanation...
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Old 08-04-2007, 10:37 PM   #10
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There is no way you will get a 1/3 gain in power. Probably lose a lot down bottom too. Personaly I think it would be stupid to put this on a stock car. Whole lot of headache for an assumed gain,assuming you could ever get it to work right with throttle by wire.
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Old 08-04-2007, 11:17 PM   #11
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There is a possibility don't get me wrong with right tuning and high octane fuel etc there is a good chance.... Some motorcycles im pretty sure have ITB's that run on DBW... some Suzukis I just looked up on ebay were(i didn't see any linkage). http://youtube.com/watch?v=MfQ4eA626kM ... Some nice ITB Action...

I want to fab up a DIY kit with a guide like some other people did for other cars if anyone is willing to help me.... Chino? i messaged you earlier... anyone else wanna get in on this... Woohoo Aim Chatroom ftw...?
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Old 08-04-2007, 11:33 PM   #12
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Throttle by wire works great on my Scion tC. As for the ITB setup for the Yaris, we'll all be waiting to see Danstoy's results.

It's all on paper until then.
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Old 08-05-2007, 08:07 PM   #13
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Individual Throttle Bodies vs Turbo

Each has its own advantages and disadvantages depending on the application it is used for.

ITB are great for the track(track as in a road course with corners, not a dragstrip). Entrance and exit corner speeds will be better with ITBs because of the high response and smoother power flow. The increase horsepower will get it around the track faster and the increase response helps in getting up to speed quicker for the next corner. Coupled with a good set of cams and upgraded lighter valvetrain, you can get more horsepower and a higher rpm limit. The disadvantage is that it is costly upgrade for the amount of horsepower but for the application it is used for, it is worth it. The Yaris is light and nimble so a setup like this for the track will be great. The main advantage of the Yaris on the track is its cornerspeed and ITBs will greatly improve it. With ITBs you get the reliability of a Naturally Aspirated motor without the worry of blowing something up, but just don't overrev it haha.

Turbo is good for those who want more power for the money. Turbo has its main advantage on the dragstrip where more horsepower means better times, but thats of course if you can get the power to the ground. More horsepower means faster car in a straightline. The problem with Turbo on the track(track with corners) is turbo LAG. Exit speeds are reduce because of the lag and lack of response. Entrance speed is also reduce because of lag and not being able to get up to speed quick enough. When the turbo does kick in, the sudden increase in power and torque will break its front tires loose creating understeer which will cause you to lift off the throttle and reduce even more speed. Since the car is FWD, breaking the front tires loose is bad since power delivery and steering are all controlled by the front tires. The smoother power flow of ITBs will keep the power to the ground.

Which you choose depends on the application you want to use it for because of the advantages and disadvantages of both, so choose wisely.
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Old 08-05-2007, 08:14 PM   #14
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ok, just so everyone knows what the Danstoy kit *might* look like, here's the two pics from ScionLife:



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Old 08-06-2007, 12:07 AM   #15
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anymore pics?
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Old 08-06-2007, 12:21 AM   #16
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im digging this ITB kit... cant wait for more info!


btw, is there any other yaris with something similar like red yaris above my post? I dont see it around with yaris that much.
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So years later, did this kit ever come to fruition?
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Old 04-30-2010, 12:20 PM   #18
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over 2 1/2 years.

no.
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