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Old 10-21-2008, 12:52 AM   #1
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ethanol gas is "SUPPOSE" to be 8 cents a gallon cheaper...but the mpg losses can be as high as 10% in some studies. So ethanol in your gas is not cheaper, plus it makes your food prices go up.
Nothing like supporting artificially subsidized government means of starving third world countries.
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Old 10-21-2008, 01:12 AM   #2
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ethanol gas is "SUPPOSE" to be 8 cents a gallon cheaper...but the mpg losses can be as high as 10% in some studies. So ethanol in your gas is not cheaper, plus it makes your food prices go up.
Do not forget that the ONLY reason ethanol lowers the price is because the government SUBSIDIZES ethanol. IOW, the per BTU price of ethanol is way higher than gasoline, but because it is "renewable" the government subsidizes it's production quite substantially, resulting in an ARTIFICIAL reduction in cost. The REAL COST of ethanol in America is substantially higher per BTU than gasoline. You pay for it in your taxes and in international trade rather than at the pump, but you DO pay for it.

A BTU is a BTU.
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Old 10-21-2008, 12:52 AM   #3
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LETS BURN OUR FOOD IN OUR CARS! YAY!
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Old 10-21-2008, 01:13 AM   #4
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And third world countries pay for it....by starving to death.
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Old 10-21-2008, 10:04 PM   #5
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52 ?! Congrats...don't let brian see that...he'll come in and ask for your raw data and say it doesn't count unless you have your numbers to two decimal places and used at least a half of a tank (blah blah blah). He'll also inform you that he currently has about a million records for the yaris and he would be very interested if anyone actually beat him.
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Old 10-21-2008, 10:47 PM   #6
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that's only over a period of two days. or was the entire tank used in 2 days you're saying. we want mpg for entire tanks.

like stated before, we don't care what you get on just a freeway run or what not. we want the entire tank mpg.
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Old 10-21-2008, 10:59 PM   #7
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I'm jealous of your MPG averages. I average low 30s and my car has 20k miles on it. I bought it used a few weeks ago so it might be due for some maintenance since I don't know how it's last owner took care of it. Maybe after that it'll get better FE averages.

I don't have high hopes though, I only drive about 14 miles a day but its constant stop and go traffic with like 4 school zones. gah.
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Old 10-21-2008, 11:56 PM   #8
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I'm jealous of your MPG averages. I average low 30s and my car has 20k miles on it. I bought it used a few weeks ago so it might be due for some maintenance since I don't know how it's last owner took care of it. Maybe after that it'll get better FE averages.

I don't have high hopes though, I only drive about 14 miles a day but its constant stop and go traffic with like 4 school zones. gah.
See: http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9510

This thread has a lot of real world, practical driving tips to get the most fuel economy out of your Yaris. I think you can do better.
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Old 10-22-2008, 01:59 AM   #9
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The Kiwi says I am doing about 40 mpg, calculating it at the gas station yields about 39 mpg, and this is with wider, softer tires!! (running 205/55R15 Yokohama S.drive tires).

Sodium- have you changed your tires from OE?
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Stock tires, stock pressure. In the future I do plan to upgrade, but I will keep the same diameter/width/tire specs -- just a lighter wheel.
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Old 10-22-2008, 02:40 PM   #11
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Interesting, espeicially since you seem to be doing the same thing that everybody else is doing... you drive under the speed limits, at or over??
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Old 10-22-2008, 02:47 PM   #12
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39mpg ave 50/50

i did 45 mpg 90% hwy averaging 95km/hr
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Old 10-22-2008, 03:47 PM   #13
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You get mpg that I would dream to have. My average is 35 mpg in city and 45 in highway driving normally and with a well treated car. Iīm happy for you guys but Iīm actually jelous because you get those mpg with a 1.5 engine and mine has a 1.3 and I canīt beat you. I think thatīs ok because it is great enough numbers for mpg that Iīm getting with my car and I donīt want to change a lot my driving habits just to get a fwe more mpg.
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I donīt want to change a lot my driving habits just to get a fwe more mpg.
Typically by changing your driving habits, you can expect as much as a 20% gain in fuel economy -- deffinetely not "just a few" more mpg.
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I do the speed limit. I try to drive as close to 45/50MPH as much as I can though, within reason. And as I said before I do 55MPH on the highway, which is apart of my daily commute (probably 60% is highway). That helps a lot, even in my old car (1999 Ford Contour) I noticed significant gains in MPG by driving 55MPH on the highway.

It all comes to down to driving very smoothly, from start to stop. Try a day of driving where you only depress the gas pedal an inch or two -- that's how I drive everyday. There's no need to be digging into the gas with any car for regular everyday driving.

Also, don't rush to get up to speed. Just because the limit changes from 35 to 40, doesn't mean you have to mash your gas to "catch up." Let the car chug along and you'll get there. Driving on the streets isn't a race -- ever.

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Old 10-23-2008, 10:45 AM   #16
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I drive 75% highway, 25% city, and over a typical tank I average 41 MPG.

I have found that taking off too slowly from a light will burn more gas then taking off a tad faster up to cruising speed (posted speed limit). I drive 1-3 MPH past the posted then back off to the posted speed limit. This tells VVTi to change the timing from "accelerate" mode for "cruising" mode. This causes my realtime MPG to jump to 50+, then I simply hold the posted speed limit and while doing this I get 50+ MPG. Of course it's the stoping and waiting at red lights that brings my average down to low 40's.

Back in June I spent two weeks on a 4,500 road trip all over the state of New Mexico, and on one tank (driving from Taos to Carlsbad caves) my tank average was 46 MPG. But that trip was 100% freeway, 70's heat, and with the A/C blowing the entire trip.

I put about 4 oz. of Lucas Upper Chamber Lub into every tank of gas. This is no snake oil. The car idles smoother, is a bit quieter, and I get more response from the gas peddle. In addition, I find that my MPG shows an 8% increase over not using it. I ran 5 tanks with and 5 tanks without and I was able to show an 8% increase in MPG. In addition, this product keeps the combustion chamber clean. I change the oil at 5,000 using the cheapest synthetic 0W-20 I can find that has the current ratings, and just before each oil change, I throw into the gas tank a bottle of Chevron Techron concentrate.

These days my 2007 hatchback has 43,000 miles and the MPG seems to keep getting better and better. So far no problems with the car. By the way, my car has a 4 speed auto.
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Old 10-27-2008, 01:07 AM   #17
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I got 41.87 mpg on the first tank last weekend. I'm going to fill up tomorrow and see if It got better or worse. I did allot of city driving so it probly will decline slightly.
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Old 10-27-2008, 02:13 PM   #18
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46.6MPG... Oops! That was in my '09 Fit.

My Yaris gets around 42 on the highway.
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