STF posts

[ArmstrongRacing]

I ordered my Hawk pads from Amazon, but I think TireRack has them too. They are great, get them up to temp and they stop like crazy.

[ArmstrongRacing]

PRO SOLO

[ilikerice]

Great shot! I would love to hit up a Pro Solo. Closest one here is New Jersey or Lincoln... bother are like a 9-10 hour drive.. I was going to go to Nationals this year but my sister is getting married on a cruise that week afterwards.. i cant take off that much time from work.. Maybe next year.

[ArmstrongRacing]

Wow, thats far. Here I am complaining about a 2.5 hour drive....

I still haven't been to Nationals either, 23hr drive from NorCal

[ilikerice]

HAHA, yea, our closest National Tour at Dixie Region is about 3 hours away. So I feel your pain. They have a Match Tour coming up in a week or 2 but due to financials (new puppy), I will skip it this year.

[ArmstrongRacing]

What exactly is a match tour?

[ilikerice]

Match tour is like a normal national event on saturday. The winners of each class go against each other on sunday. I don't know how many runs you get but if you hit 1 cone, you are eliminated. So it makes for an interesting winner.

[ArmstrongRacing]

Awesome! That's exactly how the bonus challenge round of the pro solo are run....vey fun! I beat a V10 R8 in the yaris!

[xnamerxx]

Its been quite a long time since I AutoXed but I took the race car out, and let it stretch its legs a little. Gearing is kinda wrong, so I had to used 3rd quite a few times.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-m8SfVdpbc

[ArmstrongRacing]

Nice! Im assuming street tires from all the wheel spin...lol.

[Ben_]

Attended my first national event a few weeks ago. Match tour not pro solo. I found it very unfun. Especially competing against 2 drivers in a fiesta st. I ended up 5th place behind the 2 st drivers, a vet in a crx, and a local guy I compete with in an accord

Short story I have more fun at local events where fun>winning


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[Jason@SportsCar]

Originally Posted by Ben_

Attended my first national event a few weeks ago. Match tour not pro solo. I found it very unfun. Especially competing against 2 drivers in a fiesta st. I ended up 5th place behind the 2 st drivers, a vet in a crx, and a local guy I compete with in an accord

Short story I have more fun at local events where fun>winning


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I am confused by your description... Is it only fun when you win, or when you think you are competitive because no fast guys showed up? Natl events are the ONLY way to measure where you stand.

How did them wiping the floor with you make your driving experience any less fun? It should have only had an impact on your fun level if you were concerned with the results.

Harnish is fast, but he has the wrong car for HS, just as you do.

[ilikerice]

All those cars are in either STS or STX. Fiesta ST is a STX and the crx is in STS with other miata's

I am confused.

I love national events because of the people there and you really get to see where you stand and how much improvement you need to do.

[Ben_]

Street class I don't run stf. Couldn't short the bills and it turns out that was a good move trying for a second car to race with the Yaris is just too damn slow. Parts are cheaper for some other cars, so for the money I would have spent on parts could have a better end result with the same money in a different car


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[Ben_]

I got smeared by 3.5 seconds by the fiesta. Look up the results for Farmington Utah match tour. Me and Brian in the accord usually are stiff competition at local events depending on the corse/day. So we got sweeped by the out of town ers. The guy in the crx was a fully prepped car and previous national champion


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[Ben_]

I've even thought the same thing myself. Playing under dog is an interesting position. Being a uncompetitive unprepared car in the lowest class makes things very interesting sometimes. I've come to expect that I will be at least mildly competitive since I consider myself to be mildly seasoned with almost 40 events under my belt. It kinda takes the fun away when I don't even stand a chance of winning. I still had fun, yes, but did I have as much fun as I do at a local event? No

I asked the driver of the ST fiesta what he thought about his car being in hs and he told me this

I bought this car because I was driving a Porsche 911 gt-something and I wanted a car that was class competitive in street class. I bought this car when it was in GS knowing it was competitive in that class. When they moved it to HS in 2015 I was pleasantly surprised

I asked him if we switched cars would the outcome be the same? Would the fiesta win by 3~ seconds?

He said in your car I don't stand a chance.

We both had a similar amount of seat time. About 1.5 seasons


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[Jason@SportsCar]

Originally Posted by Ben_

I've even thought the same thing myself. Playing under dog is an interesting position. Being a uncompetitive unprepared car in the lowest class makes things very interesting sometimes. I've come to expect that I will be at least mildly competitive since I consider myself to be mildly seasoned with almost 40 events under my belt. It kinda takes the fun away when I don't even stand a chance of winning. I still had fun, yes, but did I have as much fun as I do at a local event? No

I asked the driver of the ST fiesta what he thought about his car being in hs and he told me this

I bought this car because I was driving a Porsche 911 gt-something and I wanted a car that was class competitive in street class. I bought this car when it was in GS knowing it was competitive in that class. When they moved it to HS in 2015 I was pleasantly surprised

I asked him if we switched cars would the outcome be the same? Would the fiesta win by 3~ seconds?

He said in your car I don't stand a chance.

We both had a similar amount of seat time. About 1.5 seasons


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40 events, 1.5 seasons... Still wet behind the ears, you still dont know what you dont know. Harnish would have likely been as fast in your car as the CRX.

Is the Fiesta fast for the class? Yes, but I doubt it beats the Mini at Natls in HS.

[ilikerice]

Jason has valid points.. even if you did autocross once a month, thats still only little over 3 years. I been doing this for 8 years now and I am still learning things. I was able to place 1st place at Dixie National event back in March, but by the skin of my teeth. I love national events just for the fact i get to see where my skills have taken me.

Try going to STF with just some Good coil overs and tires... you will see where you stand then. STF is still a cheap class once you get past the the coil overs