Obama is the 44th US president

[SIPNGAS]

ok, while not all black Americans or other races voted for Obama simply because he's black A LOT did...they were all over the news....the vindication for slavery, etc...I really don't care that Obama is the president, anybody who got this term is going to have a very TOUGH road...but I think even Martin Luther King himself would have been disappointed...for it was he who wanted to be judged by the content of his character and not the color of his skin....and I'm quite sure he meant that whether he was being judged badly or favorably..just because of his skin color.

[lita_g]

I didn't like either candidate, but I agreed more with McCain's policies. So, let's hope Obama doesn't screw things up and doesn't turn this country into a socialist nation.

[jclo3313]

United Socialists of America welcomes you Comrade.

[PETERPOOP]

your worst fears will soon be reality.

[GeneW]

Originally Posted by Malaya1221

circus? no, thank you! been there, done that, when we toppled a dictator in '86!

You're going to have to be more specific here, Malaya. If you're referring to the Aquino overthrow of Marcos please give credit to a US which refused to support their favorite bastard in the Phillipines.

Are you saying that you, personally, participated in the Aquino revolt, and if so, how does this compared to a simple election?

Incidentally, I was peripherally involved with the Contras in the 1980s, still regret it to this day and it's one reason that I despise Reagan and Bush. They and we were used.

Originally Posted by Malaya1221

been in much worst situation than this, this is going to be a walk in a park for me.

what's great about history is that, you learn from it!

Patterns repeat, but they're only patterns. Think about it.

You haven't overthrown a dictator here. You participated in an election. You haven't changed the System either.

If anything McCain's defeat ends the rule of Neo-Cons. The remaining GOPers in the Congress are more Conservative, including my own Rep.

Originally Posted by Malaya1221

i'm more ready than you will ever be gene, experience and time are on my side...keep your head up and never despair old champ!

I'm not worried at all, save the possibility of some irritation from someone calling the Police to report me for illegal guns - I don't own any but such abuse happens from time to time.

Then there is Card Check. I don't like to think about that one, it enrages me to the point of violence. I cannot imagine why Unions insist upon this one, it's suicidal for them in the long term. They must know that they're going to lose because Card Check is a dirty trick.

Aside that, I work for a living, don't use drugs and keep to myself.

I pity the people of Color who are expecting so much from Obama. He's not going to deliver it. He can't, and that's my point.

Gene

[b1ah]

Originally Posted by jamal1984

obama win is not because he is black or because most of black people voted for him he won because of BUSH that's it. but at the end, are they just puppet?

agreed, bush fucked up hard and very few in his party spoke out against it

[Morgan]

Last night was the culmination of a hard-fought long campaign for both sides. This election was one for the books, more people voted, more people donated, volunteered, turned out for rallies, wrote their congressmen/women and most of all I think we should be proud that the system worked... none of the popular vote but not electoral BS, I know its the system we determined but this time there is no mistaking who won. Polls closed, votes were counted, and I'm exhausted. My day didn't end at all close to early and somehow I still managed to make it to my 8:30 class without sleeping through it!

My county was overwhelmingly red 55,597 for McCain and 23,603 for Obama. We fought for each and every Obama vote and despite the nasty things people do locally to Obama supporters and yard signs, I can honestly say we (Bay Democrats) ran a clean race and did the best we could.

Looking forward to the next four years, as a Democrat and only being 22 my entire involvement with the executive branch has been in opposition... just an odd perspective from now, but certainly welcome!

[Callisto]

Originally Posted by bobby

"Well I didn't vote for him, but he's my President now and I hope he does a good job."

-John Wayne, upon learning that Kennedy had defeated Nixon.



In the movies, John Wayne was a hero. In real life, he was an alcoholic, a womanizer, and an abusive father. Who really cares what John Wayne said or thought? He really was profoundly uninteresting.

I was indicating that that was my sentiment. Not that the speaker was some great person. I simply believe in citing sources.

[bobby]

ok, while not all black Americans or other races voted for Obama simply because he's black A LOT did...they were all over the news....the vindication for slavery, etc...I really don't care that Obama is the president, anybody who got this term is going to have a very TOUGH road...but I think even Martin Luther King himself would have been disappointed...for it was he who wanted to be judged by the content of his character and not the color of his skin....and I'm quite sure he meant that whether he was being judged badly or favorably..just because of his skin color.

This statement is so stupid, racist, & insulting, I almost feel embarrased for her. This gal is hopelessly & utterly clueless. Where is she getting her "statistics"? Did a lot of white people vote for McCain simply because he is white?

Millions of white people cast their ballot for Barack Obama, (college educated whites voted far more for O than whites who are not college educated) as did millions of blacks, Hispanics, Asians, etc. etc. I think people wisely voted for Barack Obama for several reasons, including his character. He's a brilliant man, and he ran a PHENOMENAL, masterful campaign, always staying on point, never wavering from his message. He was unflappable. Obama's message for change deeply resonated with people, after 8 years of the worst administration in our history. After 8 years of Bush, and the country being in a financial meltdown, were we to expect that logically the best choice would have been to elect yet another Republikkkan...one who voted with the current administration over 90% of the time?? I certainly don't think so, and obviously neither did the American people.


McCain floundered badly. He WAS George W. Bush, & no matter how hard he tried to distance himself from that train wreck, he simply couldn't. A 90% voting record with the Bush administration is not something a candidate in 2008 wants to highlight...it's a fact he ran from in shame. McCain thought Palin would be the perfect ingredient in getting him elected, and it looked like it was working at the beginning...until she opened her mouth. Then, we all realized he'd picked a know-nothing...an arrogant know-nothing at that. She did well on the campaign trail, and energized her crowd, but on the rare times the McCain people allowed her to be interviewed--to be herself, not reading from a campaign speech--she flubbed badly, and it was obvious that she was in no way ready to be Vice-President of the United States. While McCain kept changing message, he tried to create a new "non-troversy" (my word...a 'controversy which is made up, and meaningless') each week, hoping to get American's outraged & angry enough to vote against Obama. Nothing stuck because American's had seen this before, and weren't buying it this time, thankfully. If anything, they were angry & outraged at Bush/Cheney/McCain.

Obama won because he's a smarter man, and was a better choice and a better candidate. He represents hope for our future. McCain represented the failed policies of the past.

Barack Obama's meteoric and historic rise from obscurity to the Presidency is nothing short of a phenomenon, rarely--if ever--seen in politics. Barack Obama's journey is the living embodiment of Dr. King's 'I Have A Dream' speech, and if Dr. King could possibly see what has happened, he surely would be beaming.

Barack Obama is a transformational figure, a man destined to lead. He was--by far--the better choice for this country at this time. That's why he won.

[PETERPOOP]

obama won because he's a better speaker and he's black. sorry :)


oh yah, and the fact that america is full of lazy bums that want handouts. almost forgot that part.

[stuffy]

i'm not american, but even i can see that that is nonsense peterpoop,
people wanted change, simple as that.

btw, the handouts have already been doled out to the tune of $700 billion in your tax payer's money...

[PETERPOOP]

Originally Posted by stuffy

i'm not american, but even i can see that that is nonsense peterpoop,
people wanted change, simple as that.

exactly. and if change is in the form of a black man who can speak as well as hitler. so be it. lol

[floydisrock]

I have to laugh at you guys thinking anything is gonna change.
Please sticky this thread so four years from now I can laugh like hell.

[b1ah]

Originally Posted by stuffy

i'm not american, but even i can see that that is nonsense peterpoop,
people wanted change, simple as that.

btw, the handouts have already been doled out to the tune of $700 billion in your tax payer's money...

a drooling buffoon could have beat anyone presented by the republican party.

[SIPNGAS]

Originally Posted by bobby

ok, while not all black Americans or other races voted for Obama simply because he's black A LOT did...they were all over the news....the vindication for slavery, etc...I really don't care that Obama is the president, anybody who got this term is going to have a very TOUGH road...but I think even Martin Luther King himself would have been disappointed...for it was he who wanted to be judged by the content of his character and not the color of his skin....and I'm quite sure he meant that whether he was being judged badly or favorably..just because of his skin color.

This statement is so stupid, racist, & insulting, I almost feel embarrased for her. This gal is hopelessly & utterly clueless. Where is she getting her "statistics"? Did a lot of white people vote for McCain simply because he is white?

Millions of white people cast their ballot for Barack Obama, (college educated whites voted far more for O than whites who are not college educated) as did millions of blacks, Hispanics, Asians, etc. etc. I think people wisely voted for Barack Obama for several reasons, including his character. He's a brilliant man, and he ran a PHENOMENAL, masterful campaign, always staying on point, never wavering from his message. He was unflappable. Obama's message for change deeply resonated with people, after 8 years of the worst administration in our history. After 8 years of Bush, and the country being in a financial meltdown, were we to expect that logically the best choice would have been to elect yet another Republikkkan...one who voted with the current administration over 90% of the time?? I certainly don't think so, and obviously neither did the American people.


McCain floundered badly. He WAS George W. Bush, & no matter how hard he tried to distance himself from that train wreck, he simply couldn't. A 90% voting record with the Bush administration is not something a candidate in 2008 wants to highlight...it's a fact he ran from in shame. McCain thought Palin would be the perfect ingredient in getting him elected, and it looked like it was working at the beginning...until she opened her mouth. Then, we all realized he'd picked a know-nothing...an arrogant know-nothing at that. She did well on the campaign trail, and energized her crowd, but on the rare times the McCain people allowed her to be interviewed--to be herself, not reading from a campaign speech--she flubbed badly, and it was obvious that she was in no way ready to be Vice-President of the United States. While McCain kept changing message, he tried to create a new "non-troversy" (my word...a 'controversy which is made up, and meaningless') each week, hoping to get American's outraged & angry enough to vote against Obama. Nothing stuck because American's had seen this before, and weren't buying it this time, thankfully. If anything, they were angry & outraged at Bush/Cheney/McCain.

Obama won because he's a smarter man, and was a better choice and a better candidate. He represents hope for our future. McCain represented the failed policies of the past.

Barack Obama's meteoric and historic rise from obscurity to the Presidency is nothing short of a phenomenon, rarely--if ever--seen in politics. Barack Obama's journey is the living embodiment of Dr. King's 'I Have A Dream' speech, and if Dr. King could possibly see what has happened, he surely would be beaming.

Barack Obama is a transformational figure, a man destined to lead. He was--by far--the better choice for this country at this time. That's why he won.

Call me stupid, clueless, whatever, It's my opinion, thank you very much. But, obviously, you find your words much more interesting to listen to. Rock on...ROCK ON.

[kurokoma-kun]

let's face it--barack obama won because he got more votes!! it's as simple as that

and now the whole world is watching, to see what all americans do next, as a group... ask yourself, what kind of people do we want to show them we are? what kind of example do we want to set for people in other countries, who might be wondering if our kind of democracy is really worth it all the pre-election fuss?

and then, act accordingly

[bobby]

Originally Posted by PK198105

to bobby: your comments make you sound like a fanatic.

Define 'fanatic'.

[bobby]

I didn't call her stupid and clueless because who she voted for...I called her stupid & clueless for the observation & comments she made, which I feel were, well, stupid and clueless. Oh, and racist and insulting. Listen, it's not my fault...this girl is simply not bright. In fact, she's simple.