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02-26-2006, 08:40 PM | #55 |
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The idea of 'getting what you paid for' doesnt sit well with me. As a paying consumer, I expect to get satisfaction from any purchase that I make, be it $1 or $1,000,000.00.
And for the record, we've had our yaris since nov05. Now nearly 2k kms later, and it has give us no problems at all. |
02-26-2006, 11:14 PM | #56 |
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Let me make myself clear if I have not. I will not ask for a Lexus when I pay for a Yaris. But a Yaris is not cheap. I have come across claims that a well equipped Yaris costs not much less than a similarly equipped Corolla. Needless to say such a Yaris is more expensive than some cars of the same class by a significant margin. So, when I pay for a Toyota, I expect to get Toyota quality. I will accept small imperfections such as a little rattle or harshness if other people's Yarises are not free from them in one way or another. This should be a good way to determine whether I have had a fair deal. Here is where "you get what you pay for" comes in and that is what I can agree to. A Yaris is never meant to be a perfect car, but it should be quite good, if not excellent. However, if after I have checked out in this and other forums that I am the only one having a particular problem, I will not feel guilty bringing my car back to the dealership to ask for a solution. I like rational discussions with fellow members and I have encountered many nice fellow members this far.
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02-27-2006, 09:43 AM | #58 |
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When buying a brand new car what you should get is a car that is well packaged and squeak and rattle free. There is no excuse, especially when the model and chassis are brand new.
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02-28-2006, 03:13 AM | #59 | |
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Go check out the last Wheels magazine and see what was on offer 10 years ago for $20k brand new. Also think of how much easier it is to buy a $20k car compared to 10 years ago. Come back to reality. You DO get what you paid for. That's not to say you get crap but it's at an acceptable level that you won't get in many other manufacturer for the same price. |
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02-28-2006, 08:22 AM | #60 |
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What you SHOULD get when you buy a car in this price range is a decent small car. They skimp on a lot of things to get the car to this price like features, they keep the design fairly simple, they skimp on sound deadening, smaller engines, smaller wheels and tires, etc. That doesn't mean that the car should be a rattle box. They still have to be responsible for designing the car so that it doesn't shake itself apart. If I have a rattle that I can't fix myself you better believe I'm going to be at the dealership making them fix it.
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02-28-2006, 10:42 AM | #61 |
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The Yaris is priced above the competitors in its class. Even a Cobalt, Accent...doesn't make that kind of noise...well, I'm just comparing orange to orange. I work for a rental car company and I drove a lot of inexpensive cars. You don't need to expect less from an expensive car.
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02-28-2006, 12:22 PM | #62 |
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I guess I'm lucky. My baby doesn't have any squeaks or rattles, unless I put things in the glove compartment. Sorry to hear that some of you are having problems.
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I'm confused though. If there are squeeks, rattles or noises from your brand new car that you find out that is not on other brand new cars of the same make and brand, isn't there obviously something wrong with it? Maybe a fault or a defect? Shouldn't you complain? Or should you just bear it and suffer it for its entire life and be not satisfied with it when others are? Since you are fond of examples, how about this: Say you bought a no-name brand widescreen plasma tv worth about $2000 from K-Mart and found there is a permanent horizontal white line across the screen. When you tried to return it, they tell you: 'Sorry we can't replace it since its a no-name cheap brand. You should expect defects on its since it is cheap. If you wanted something without defects, you should've bought a Sony or a Pioneer.' I wonder what you will do... |
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02-28-2006, 09:52 PM | #64 |
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You got a new Yaris with airbags, ABS, nice looks and it didn't deliver?
Sony? a good brand? ever heard of the PSP? Anyway, even if I did consider a no-name brand or even a name brand for that matter, if I paid pittens for it, I'd expect it to fall apart on me very soon and hope that some other poor bugger falls apart before mine does. You don't expect a Yaris for $5k would be better than one that cost $20k (ceteris parabus). |
02-28-2006, 10:36 PM | #65 |
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Apparently, we have different values when it comes to fair trade. We'll just leave it at that.
And yes, I have heard of the PSP. I have also heard of the psOne, PS2, PS3, Trinitron, Walkman, and the Bravia. What does that have to do with this? Wait, are you trying to imply that all Sony products are crap because of the PSP? Ok. I don't see how that helps your point though. Since most consumer goods have mandatory warranties nowadays, I will return a defective product to the seller/maker if it broke down within its warranty period. If not, then tough luck, chuck it in the bin and buy a new one. And yes, I will return a crap PSP if it breaks down (through no fault of my own) within its warranty period. |
02-28-2006, 10:40 PM | #66 |
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At the end of the day, a car is a commodity. The closer you feel attached to it coz of little things you can solve yourself, the more it runs your life rather than the other way around. Life still goes on.
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03-03-2006, 09:04 PM | #68 |
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Yes, and Toyota's standard is usually quite high........
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