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12-27-2011, 05:32 AM | #55 | |
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Well, lets see! Yaris = $15,000 Prius = $25,000 Oh my my my you just spent $10,000 more if you bought a Pruis! Now for 100,000 miles at $3 a gallon assuming your Prius gets 40 miles per gallon you are going to spend $7500 for gas. At 30 mpg for the Yaris you will spend $10,000. Well gee golly willikers you spent $10,000 more and SAVED $2500 by buying a Prius instead of a Yaris! That cost you $7500! What you did was take the money you would have given to Exxon and gave it instead to Toyota! And, you're so considerate of others, you gave Toyota a $7500 BONUS besides! How NICE of you! And all because you want to drive a more fuel efficient car! Last edited by bronsin; 12-27-2011 at 05:45 AM. |
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12-27-2011, 08:18 AM | #56 |
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That doesn't even take into consideration all the batteries that you have to eventually replace in the Prius.
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12-28-2011, 11:55 PM | #57 |
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Not so far, by what I hear. Our local dealer says that the have yet to hear of a battery replacement anywhere in North America. Also, the price has gone down significantly since the pack was introduced.
Just what I hear... |
12-29-2011, 11:08 PM | #58 |
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I think I was referring to the diesels that GM tried to sell back in the 80s. They were junk....as are most GM products.
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12-29-2011, 11:59 PM | #59 | |
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As for the diesel, I think if enough are produced, the cost will not be 25% more. I personally would like to have one as it would give you better mileage. Now I don't know the cost of diesel fuel in your area, but here in Indy, diesel fuel is only 7& more expensive. Multiple the savings by 300k miles and I believe you will come out ahead in the long run.
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12-30-2011, 05:08 AM | #60 | |
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Having said that the car is a total ripoff. Bottom line it makes no sense whatsoever. |
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12-30-2011, 05:26 AM | #61 | |
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The ECHO got 40 mpg + back in 2000. How nice the so call "new and improved" models from other companies are "starting" to get 40 mpg.
I would argue the Yaris is a step in the wrong direction from the ECHO. It is heavier. Remember the 1985 Honda Civic? The one that got ~50 mpg highway? What are the "new and improved" ones getting, huh? 35 mpg hiway? And I do not believe for one second those claims of Ford and others with larger engines than the ECHO/Yaris that they get an honest 40 mpg. No sir! The 1.5 liter engine in the ECHO/Yaris is the best small engine made today by a large margin. Nothing else comes close. MPG wise and powerwise (106 hp) Although the "engine of the future" is even smaller IMO. Before you buy one of these "cutting edge cars of the future" with a hybrid or diesel engine that will "pay off after 300,000 miles" (are you kidding me?!) all I ask is you DO THE MATH beforehand. Quote:
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12-30-2011, 10:30 PM | #62 |
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Yeah, my buddy's Echo still gets better mileage than my Yaris, but it IS smaller. We could never been able to make it do as much as the Yaris, strictly because of its lack of room. Other than that, my main objection to the newer cars is the added BS that one must buy on a standard model. I don't NEED the alarms and other electronics; I just want a car that will move me from A to B with as little trouble as possible, using as little fuel as possible. 40mpg is not new to me; I was getting that from my cars in the 60s.
I do, however, enjoy the lack of corrosion built into today's cars, and the longevity they are showing. Somehow, I just know that it will be the damn electronics that will kill my Yaris... |
12-31-2011, 01:07 AM | #63 |
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You guys may know it already, but I just read today that the 2012 is available in 3 door and 5 door only, no sedan this year, that sucks. When I have to get rid of this one, no more yaris for me.......waaaaa
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01-01-2012, 01:59 PM | #64 | |
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01-01-2012, 04:12 PM | #65 |
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[QUOTE=TLyttle;621242] 40mpg is not new to me; I was getting that from my cars in the 60s.
QUOTE] Granted mileage was better in the 80s than it is today. I know Honda Civics in 1985 got nearly 50 mpg highway. And my brothers 1983 Renault Alliance got 53 mpg when we were on a trip from Morgantown WV to Houston. But what car(s) was it that got 40 mpg in the 60s? |
01-02-2012, 01:01 AM | #66 |
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Morris Minor for one. Mine got 59mpg Imp, but I helped it a bit. Minis got even better mileage, and a few other orphans got better than that on poorer fuel. I must admit that I go back to the 50s as well as the 60s, but in those days I couldn't afford gas guzzlers even at 35c/gal.
And I didn't mind adjusting my floor vents and manual chokes and starter buttons (they're back, fergodsakes!), it was just part of driving a car. We also had no-draft vents that worked very well indeed! I don't need my Minor back, but it wouldn't be any surprise or drawback. |
01-02-2012, 07:58 AM | #67 |
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My father adored his Moris Minor. There were not a lot of them in Brooklyn and that was long before foreighn cars became in any sense of the word acceptable so it was something of a cross to bear.
Especially driving across the GW Bridge in any kind of wind. |
01-17-2012, 05:46 PM | #68 |
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Compact cars more efficient than sub-compacts
I just read a new 2012 report that states that the new compact cars are more gas efficient than sub-compact. Partly because the compacts have slightly longer chassis which allow a better airflow than the short stubby sub-compacts.
With the 55-mpg rules coming on in a few years a lot of aerodynamic studies have been done. Most subcompacts also have nearly vertical rear ends to maximize rear seat-rear storage space. Engineers have not been able to smooth the airflow as much as the longer compacts' rear sheet metal. Both GM and Toyota are finding that their newly designed compacts are getting 40-50 mpg while their sub-compacts are struggling to reach 40 mpg. |
01-18-2012, 02:16 AM | #69 |
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Luckily I didnt buy my Yaris being overly concerned with mileage.
For me it was all about the 14 cup holders :) |
01-20-2012, 04:34 AM | #70 |
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Here, in Sydney. Yaris are every where the 2nd generation is multiplying on the road.
Most are 3 doors hatch backs.I noticed that this year so many people are buying Yaris |
01-20-2012, 09:45 PM | #71 |
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Why isn't a prius diesel/battery car available? How come a Chevy volt doesn't have a tiny tubine? It would be great to run any type of full just to recharge the battery to power the thing to extended range. I think it would be awesome to loose all the airbags in exchange for all the stupid people who don't believe that driving requires one's undivided attention. I had an '89 Justy w/ the 3 hole engine and a CVT. Got over 49 mpg on a trip with it. It had a carb. The fuel we burn could give us better milage, too. Get rid of the alcohol. Look at F1 and the custom blends of full they got to make mileage and power at the end of the turbo era...
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01-21-2012, 12:37 AM | #72 |
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In my experience, turbines are THIRSTY! Chrysler found that out 50 years ago, Rover before them. Here in the model builders world, miniature turbines are the rage, and their fuel loads are outrageous! I run small diesels, and the fuel tanks are really small; models running 90mph for miles on 1oz of fuel.
US safety laws have made sure that we must buy heavy vehicles so that we survive running into bridge abutments at 55mph; answer is not to run into bridge abutments at 55 mph. The extra weight costs us fuel, period. |
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