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[MadMax]

Toyota strikes back!

Toyota casts doubt on man's speeding Prius claim

By ELLIOT SPAGAT and TOM KRISHER, Associated Press Writers Elliot Spagat And Tom Krisher, Associated Press Writers 1 hr 1 min ago

SAN DIEGO – Toyota cast doubt Monday on a California man's claim that his Prius sped out of control, saying the report is inconsistent with the findings of the company's preliminary investigation.

Toyota said in a statement that the accelerator pedal was tested and found to be working normally and a backup safety system worked properly. The automaker said the front brakes showed severe wear and damage from overheating, but the rear brakes and parking brake were in good condition.

The motorist, James Sikes, said his car raced to 94 mph on a freeway near San Diego last week. The March 8 incident ended when Sikes stopped the car with help from a California Highway Patrol officer.

"While a final report is not yet complete, there are strong indications that the driver's account of the event is inconsistent with the findings of the preliminary analysis," the statement said.

A telephone message seeking comment on Toyota's assertions was left by The Associated Press at the office of Sikes' attorney, John H. Gomez.

Toyota said testing found that the car's accelerator pedal had no mechanical binding or friction, and the floor mat was not interfering with or touching the pedal.

A self-diagnostic system did show evidence of repeated applications of the accelerator and brake pedals, Toyota said.

"The data from the diagnostics test indicated that the accelerator and the brake had been rapidly pressed, alternately back and forth, 250 times," Mike Michels, vice president of corporate communications for Toyota Motor Sales USA, told a press conference.

In a test, the front brakes were replaced and then purposely overheated by continuous light application and still stopped the car, the company said.

According to Toyota, the Prius has a self-protection system that cuts engine power if the brake pedal is pressed moderately or greater. Tests found that system to be functioning, the carmaker said. The company also said the car's push-button power switch worked normally and shut off the vehicle when pressed for three seconds, and that the shift lever worked normally and allowed neutral to be selected.

The power management computer contained no diagnostic trouble codes, and the dashboard malfunction lights were not activated, Toyota said.

Earlier in the day, federal regulators said they were reviewing data from the gas-electric hybrid but so far had not found anything to explain the out-of-control acceleration reported by Sikes.

"We would caution people that our work continues and that we may never know exactly what happened with this car," the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said in a statement.

Inspectors said they tried to duplicate the acceleration during a two-hour test drive but could not.

Sikes has said the car sped up to 94 mph on a freeway near San Diego. He said he jammed on the brakes trying to stop it.

Sikes called 911, and a highway patrol officer helped bring the vehicle to a safe stop. Though no one was injured, the episode quickly becoming a high-profile headache for Toyota, which like NHTSA sent in an engineering team to investigate.

Gomez, the attorney for Sikes, said the failure to recreate the incident was insignificant and not surprising.

"They have never been able to replicate an incident of sudden acceleration. Mr. Sikes never had a problem in the three years he owned this vehicle," he said Sunday.

But Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., suggested the failure to duplicate the stuck accelerator, and the presence of a backup system in the car, raised questions about Sikes' story.

"It doesn't mean it didn't happen, but let's understand, it doesn't mean it did happen," Issa said on CBS' "The Early Show."

NHTSA is looking into claims by more than 60 Toyota owners that their vehicles had accelerated unexpectedly even after they were supposedly fixed.

Regulators said in a statement that Sikes' Prius was equipped with a backup safety device that reduces power to the wheels when the brakes and gas are pressed at the same time.

"The system on Mr. Sikes' Prius worked during our engineers' test drive," the statement said.

While investigators from Toyota and NHTSA reviewed the Prius during the same two days, a Transportation Department official said their investigations are separate.

"It does not appear to be feasibly possible, both electronically and mechanically that his gas pedal was stuck to the floor and he was slamming on the brake at the same time," said a memo prepared for Congress that cited a Toyota official.

Toyota has recalled millions of cars because floor mats can snag gas pedals or accelerators can stick. Sikes' car was covered by the floor mat recall but not the one for sticky accelerators. He later told reporters that he tried to pull on the gas pedal during his harrowing ride, but it didn't "move at all."

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Krisher reported from Detroit. Associated Press Writer Ken Thomas in Washington contributed to this report.

[sbergman27]

Originally Posted by MadMax

Toyota strikes back!

The problem is that striking back is a very dangerous thing from a PR standpoint. Even certain members of this forum have expressed a feeling that they think that Toyota is hiding something. I've looked and seen no evidence of any real issue. But the public is keen to tar and feather the current target of the media, which is perceived as being vulnerable now. Striking back can easily be interpreted as bullying the "poor guy".

I mean, poor James Sikes had his business fall out from under him, through no fault of his own, and was forced to declare bankruptcy. He had $58,000 stolen from him and had to do without while waiting for the insurance to pay. And now, to top it all off, his car tried to kill him, and some people don't believe him.

The guy is lying through his teeth. That much is obvious. But the PR game is far from over. Will people turn out to dislike the sleaze-bag James Sikes, or the Giant Multinational Mega-Corp, Toyota, the most?

-Steve

[MadMax]

Sorry, if this guy was lying about what happened then he broke the law the same way the assclown who claimed his kid flew away in a balloon did!

But I understand your point, especially with Toyota being Japanese. "Face" is important, which is why they aren't saying he lied about it (although I think he did), they are merely "challenging" what happened. I think that is better than simply accepting the lie and the consequences. We drove through a local Toyota dealer today and were amazed at the number of new vehicles they had on the lot! Heck, they had so many that they even parked them in the dirt lot next to the dealership. Now would be a good time to buy, because they seem anxious to sell cars!

By the way, the only model that they didn't have in mass quantities was the Yaris hatchback! There was only one on the lot. There were more Yaris sedans, but not nearly as many as other models.

Cheers! M2

[sbergman27]

Originally Posted by MadMax

But I understand your point, especially with Toyota being Japanese. "Face" is important, which is why they aren't saying he lied about it (although I think he did), they are merely "challenging" what happened.

I'm sure that Toyota has legal and marketing advisers whose experience stretch far beyond "being Japanese". Toyota is in a catch 22.

Skewering the auto industry of the country which hosts the greatest portion of their market, by producing better cars at a better price, has predictably had its consequences. Expect more witch hunts against companies who dare to outdo the Greatest and Most Free Country in the World.

As an American, I must say that being presented with such a very clear sign of the country I grew up in sinking under the waves is the saddest part of this whole affair. Especially since it is so obvious just how the competition beat us fair and square.

-Steve