3/gallon gas comming soon

[Yar Is Word]

http://gasbuddy.com/

[THEDON]

"You picked a bad backdrop for your Free Enterprise pitch. Because private industry fucked up royally, over a period of years, to get itself where it is today. The American public happily went along for the ride... and fully deserves to share in the consequences."

If a company makes more decisions IE: GMC, Chrysler. let them fail. Other industries and companies will replace them. Using the taxpayer money to bail out irresponsibility on the other hand? Now that is in itself irresponsible because our Government is in no position to bail anyone out. If the situation occurs where oil and other fossil fuels is no longer a reasonable and reliable source, then let the american public go out there and create alternatives, we have been accomplishing more then any other country in 200 years.

The Government is never the answer. Government is a needed in a limited role. Any larger and you will have a tyranny on your hands.

[ptitpiffute]

Here up North, in Canada, Mtl, price of gas is already passed 4$, a gallon. It may explain why, there are a lot more smaller cars in downtown.
But, I still see f..... s...... suvs, trucks, hummer, on the road and I trully don't get why people like to drive in those big things .....

I love my yaya and expect to beat the EPA this summer :)

[jambo101]

Get the price up to $10 a gallon so i can really get a laugh at the SUV's and assorted gas guzzlers at the gas station.

[sbergman27]

Originally Posted by THEDON

If the situation occurs where oil and other fossil fuels is no longer a reasonable and reliable source,

That actually happened back in the 1970s. But we've put on a most impressive display of denial over the subsequent 35 years.

then let the american public go out there and create alternatives, we have been accomplishing more then any other country in 200 years.

ROTFLMAO! Open your eyes and look at how things have changed in the last few decades. Look at education, trade balance, whatever. Pretty much anywhere you look you will find signs of the ongoing erosion. The collapse of our auto industry is merely a salient and easily recognizable symptom. The rot actually runs much deeper.

-Steve

[Kongo-Otto]

You should feel quite lucky over there. Gas is 7,66$ per gallon in Germany. I just calculated it.

[1stToyota]

Can't hardly wait! It'll help to remind me why I sold the Goat.

[coffiend]

Lanky, you don't know me. You don't know my financial situation, you don't know my past experiences or current responsibilities. So why do you feel that you are in the position to tell me how I should/ shouldn't handle my finances. I would like you to drive 50ish miles/day on a motorcycle in nebraska in sub zero temps. The last I checked 50 bucks a month is far from expensive for a phone bill. And believe me, I have had several used cars that get good mpg.. 5 to be exact. All of them lasted me for no longer than a year and a half before something went wrong that would cost morre than the car was worth. I bought a yaris not for luxury, but for the peace of mind of having reliable
mode of transportation.

While it may have been an exaggeration that I would HAVE to drop out of school, its still not your place to say what I should do with my life and wether or not I deserve to get a degree.

If I would have known that this thread would have turned into some random guy trying to be my money coach I never would have posted. So please, share your opinions reegarding the topic, but keep your opinions about MY LIFE out of your posts.

Again, sorry for any poor grammar because this was posted on my 100 dollar phone that I pay 50 dollars a month for.

An steve, thank you for being more level headed and reasonable regarding my post.

[talnlnky]

Originally Posted by coffiend

Lanky, you don't know me. You don't know my financial situation, you don't know my past experiences or current responsibilities. So why do you feel that you are in the position to tell me how I should/ shouldn't handle my finances. I would like you to drive 50ish miles/day on a motorcycle in nebraska in sub zero temps. The last I checked 50 bucks a month is far from expensive for a phone bill. And believe me, I have had several used cars that get good mpg.. 5 to be exact. All of them lasted me for no longer than a year and a half before something went wrong that would cost morre than the car was worth. I bought a yaris not for luxury, but for the peace of mind of having reliable
mode of transportation.

While it may have been an exaggeration that I would HAVE to drop out of school, its still not your place to say what I should do with my life and wether or not I deserve to get a degree.

If I would have known that this thread would have turned into some random guy trying to be my money coach I never would have posted. So please, share your opinions reegarding the topic, but keep your opinions about MY LIFE out of your posts.

Again, sorry for any poor grammar because this was posted on my 100 dollar phone that I pay 50 dollars a month for.

An steve, thank you for being more level headed and reasonable regarding my post.

Not trying to be your money coach... as you've pointed out, there's no money in it for me. What I was getting at was either you were being overly-dramatic or not very bright.... and like I said in the first post... I didn't believe you were that helpless (read: I didn't think you were dumb, though it seems your determination is in question).

Nobody needs a sob story from an overly dramatic person about "what ifs". It doesn't do anybody any good. However, if you are going to do it... please add some kind of note or tag so we the readers know to disregard everything you say as crap. A common tag for example is [full of crap] write story here [/full of crap]

Adding to hysteria senselessly is never good for a population...net based or real life based.

oh... and i really like the "you don't know me"... you're not the boss of me mentality. It helps to put an age on you...

Yeah, I know i'm coming off as a dick, I know that, and yet my point still remains... be legit and speak the truth, or don't speak at all.

now, I gotta go... have an IEP meeting to run.

[Shroomster]

all I'm hoping for is if the price of gas goes up maybe the quality will too....

hell if my paycheck doesn't increase at least let me get some quality or at least better quality control ( less water in the tanks)

[coffiend]

Sorry maybe you read that wrong, but I never once implied that you were / weren't the boss of anyone. I was merely pointing out that I have more responsibilities than just school. My day is non stop from 8 AM - 9 PM because that's the only way I can make things work. That in mind, questioning my determination is a fight you're going to lose. Again, you assume things that you have no idea about, which is very common for an arrogant know-it-all such as yourself.

And thank you for going onto personal attacks rather than addressing any of the issues at hand when you realized that your suggestions wouldn't work for me, it really helps me unsterstand the maturity level you are at.

Ad it was said before, get over yourself.

Sorry to everyone else for this threa going way off topic.

[sidewinder]

Is it just me or did a lot of people responding to the rise of gas call it a welcome thing. Have these people fallen out of the stupid tree. Every consumer product made is transportewd over the road by trucks which use fuel. If fuel goes up so does groceries,car parts, medicine, etc... Sadly though, no ones pay goes up to match it. It really is a drag paying $8.00 for a loaf of bread, $10.00 for a gallon of milk. Yet in Saudi Arabi they pay .28 cents a gallon for gas. Yea, you enjoy giving your money away. it might drive manufacturers to make more non earth friendly cars like the Prius and everyone is poorer then they use to be. Yea why stop at $5.00 a gallon, lets make it $50.00 a gallon. Duhhh.

[Hershey]

it's going to occur sooner or later . Hurricane season coming up , possible IRAN confrontation , growth of CHINA , instability in NIGERIA , etc.. All is on the loose .

[Gideon]

Originally Posted by sidewinder

Is it just me or did a lot of people responding to the rise of gas call it a welcome thing. Have these people fallen out of the stupid tree. Every consumer product made is transportewd over the road by trucks which use fuel.

Very true and a good point, but delivering products at the lowest cost to the consumer is still priority for any good business, and it would be unlikely that we'd see an enormous jump on the costs of products.

Keep in mind that semi-trucks when at rest at stops usually leave their engines idling to power their heaters/AC and electronics, so there's a lot waste that could be eliminated. (Including utilizing rail transports and/or expanding the rail infrastructure)

Not that I'm advocating $5/gal, I very much enjoy only spending $30 every two weeks to fill up.

[sbergman27]

Originally Posted by sidewinder

Every consumer product made is transportewd over the road by trucks which use fuel.

You've brought up an excellent point. The system used in the US to transport goods is so horrendously inefficient that it's difficult to believe. Goods are shipped overland via *truck* for heavens sake! Rail is *incomparably* more efficient. So why don't we use it? Because the US *subsidizes* trucking so that that horrendously inefficient industry can compete with the naturally fuel and cost efficient rail.

What needs to happen here is obvious. Drop the subsidies. (And yes, the number of truckers would dwindle over night.) And the remaining truckers can organize with the railroads to handle the local "last mile" transport to exactly where the goods are supposed to go. That is what we should have been doing all along.

Regarding being in favor of high fuel prices... please look beyond next week. We have some very major changes that absolutely need to be made. In the long term, we have no choice. And the sooner the changes are made, the better. They won't be made until there is a crisis, because Americans ignore problems until they reach crisis level.

Better to prod this country into doing what it needs to do now rather than later, when the situation will be even more difficult.

-Steve

[Hershey]

look at the price of tomatoes . OUCH !

[sidewinder]

There are many points here and no perfect solution. I agree and disagree with many. You have a point about trains, they haul more at less cost using less fuel, but they still have to use refrigeration cars to keep items from spoiling. Trains also have to share common tracks that are few in number and poorly maintained. To effect the repair and replacement of rails to accomodate all these trains would be very costly. I love trains, wish we used more, but that is really going to be expensve to get up to the capacity needed to take over from trucking and you will always have end point trucks to go from rail to store. Lastly, I am an American, I served my country for 23 years in the Military. Our country is founded on freedom and the right to choose. I like small economy cars. I am fuel conscious, but also I believe it should be an individuals choice what they drive. If you want a 16 cylinder Bugati Veron have at it, if you can afford it. I hate having people tell me what I can and can't have. We all need to get along, but with respect for one another.

[Black Yaris]

Originally Posted by Black Yaris

there may be a point, but they pay $7-8 a gallon in Europe, and I still would not even think twice to pay that amount

Originally Posted by Kongo-Otto

You should feel quite lucky over there. Gas is 7,66$ per gallon in Germany. I just calculated it.

das ist, was ich gerade gesagt habe

aber etwa die Hälfte der Autos in Deutschland sind Diesel-als auch