Yaris Sedan Deadening and Sound system upgrade

[derickveliz2]

Thanks sqcomp. It's nice to have a friend with crazy ideas for a Yaris; just like Me!


This is what I was looking for!

I think it will work, and I'll be able to pass the wires through!

I used hot glue to hold the sphere in place, now lets drill a hole and use the Lamp Nipples I got at the local hard ware store!!!

[sqcomp]

Grumble

That just seems way too big. Imagine that a pillar. When you want to move or service that tweeter, how is it going to work? With the thread sert idea you will eliminate one of the nuts and washers that I see in the pictures above.

Take that thread sert that I suggested put it in the side of the pod/sphere. Now mount it to the a pillar with a screw coming through the back of the pillar. You can put rubber washers on the backside of the pillar and in between the pillar and the sphere to decouple them from vibrations.

[derickveliz2]

sqcomp, I understand what you mean... let me try this way because I want to have the A-pillars and spheres be 2 peaces, instead of molding them in "one" I'm more concern on the Structure of the A-pillar and how it's going to react with the extra weight! of the 3" mid driver; did you reinforce the A-pillar from the insde on the lower portion, it's kind of floating in the air by it self, there are no mechanical attachments in that area besides the 2 little guides at the bottom.

D.

[sqcomp]

I think you misunderstand me...

I'm thinking the same way you are, just with a smaller, simpler connection point.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

I think you misunderstand me...

I'm thinking the same way you are, just with a smaller, simpler connection point.

GOT IT!

Look what I did!

D.

[derickveliz2]

Here is how it goes, little by little every night!










Left side too:




Behind A-pillar




So far the aiming its right where Hertz-Audio recommends for the HL-70's



Now it's all about SANDING AND SANDING!

I'm going to detach the spheres and cover the A-pillars with plastic/tape then re attach the spheres...
and work some BONDO... Yeah!!! I never have done this before so I'm exited.

Then... more SANDING!


D.

[derickveliz2]

FYI...

Now that I'm playing around with the A-pillars I can tell how much ENGINE NOISE can get into the cabin when these are not installed (A-pillars)

If you ever take them out! stuff some foam in the lower corners where they meat with the dash board to help and kill engine noise. Give them a try. just pull them out and experience the difference!


Also... just for FUN

I took this photo yesterday, and my little ride shows up on the lower right corner!

[derickveliz2]

I download a copy of "IASCA OFFICIAL SOUND QUALITY CD" and I enjoyed it a lot, it's awesome to go through each section, I really like the Front Stage part with 3 people talking one on each side and a woman in the center; also a track with 7 drums spread out starting on the left equally spaced. Also a couple of songs that put my 6.5 drivers in a work out. There is a lot more that I don't understand, but I'm all for learning about Sound Quality.

Very interesting!

NOTE: I'm only running a pair of 6.5" speakers in the front doors from 53Hz all the way up to 12kHz, (now I understand why I really want my midbass in kickpanels, the doors are bad speaker boxes) the Bachuka from 20Hz to 40Hz. My stage is very low as is but still very interesting.

Can't wait to have all speakers and amps working together.

D.

[derickveliz2]

Tonight I took off the spheres from the A-pillars and sanded the rough edges, then applied a layer of "BONDO" well not exactly Bondo but very similar... it's called "GLAZE COAT - Polyester Finishing and Blending Putty" according to the guy at the audio shop this is not as hard as the Bondo. It should be easier to sand! we'll see tomorrow, it's sand-able after 20 minutes but it's 2:15 am and should go to bed.

Lots of sanding for tomorrow or should I say today?







D.

[Herbicidal]

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

I download a copy of "IASCA OFFICIAL SOUND QUALITY CD"

Hey Derick, do you have a link for the download? Is it free? Thanks.

[sqcomp]

I'm shaking my head because no one has ever asked me about reference discs...

There is also a better front end track than that IASCA drum cut. It's from a Bass Mechanik CD, it's called Front End Alignment. It has a lot of the different percussion pieces found on a drum kit to test across the sound stage. In other words, the track isn't limited to snare drums. It has about a dozen percussion pieces to test out the FULL range of your front stage.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

I'm shaking my head because no one has ever asked me about reference discs...

There is also a better front end track than that IASCA drum cut. It's from a Bass Mechanik CD, it's called Front End Alignment. It has a lot of the different percussion pieces found on a drum kit to test across the sound stage. In other words, the track isn't limited to snare drums. It has about a dozen percussion pieces to test out the FULL range of your front stage.

I downloaded that track too! it's awesome! you mentioned long time ago in one of your threads, but back then with out Time Alignment® didn't make so much sense.

so you have some more reference discs to share with us

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by Herbicidal

Hey Derick, do you have a link for the download? Is it free? Thanks.

Try this one:

LINK

These are other tracks you can download too:

LINK 2

Or PM me and I'll send the cool tracks by e-mail

D.

[Palmer812]

What Bass Mechanik disc is it? Have you ever checked out "My Disc"? It is the Autosound 2000 test disc by Sheffield Labs.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by Palmer812

What Bass Mechanik disc is it? Have you ever checked out "My Disc"? It is the Autosound 2000 test disc by Sheffield Labs.

I don't know! I only downloaded the song called "Front End Alignment"

D.

[Alien Mantis]

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

Tonight I took off the spheres from the A-pillars and sanded the rough edges, then applied a layer of "BONDO" well not exactly Bondo but very similar... it's called "GLAZE COAT - Polyester Finishing and Blending Putty" according to the guy at the audio shop this is not as hard as the Bondo. It should be easier to sand!

Bad mistake.

That "glazing putty" is for filling-in tiny scratches.
It is NOT a substitute for BONDO, and you don't ever want to slap a bunch of it on there like you did on your spheres.
You made a mess.

"Glazing putty" is used AFTER the Bondo, to fill-in the tiny scratches.
And also: BEFORE you use the BONDO, you wanna scuff-up the surface with 80-grit sandpaper, so the bondo will adhere to the surface better.

The guy who recommended you do that is obviously not a paint & body man.

You actually WANT a hard surface. Whether it is "easy to sand" or not is not even the issue!

I do like your lamp nipples for the attachment. Nice to run the wires inside them. And good job on the larger washers.

Now GET THEM FINISHED and PAINTED so we can see what they look like!
( gonna look like two big ol` BUG EYES staring at you from the dash! )

[packetrace]

I really like those A-Pillar with those balls for the tweeter it looks so sweet :D

[sqcomp]

There's going to be a stage width issue with the spheres, that's the downside. The constructive criticism part is coming out here. I would have made the sphere's aimable on the X and Y axis. Still, let's see how these turn out! I'm excited to see a finished product.

To expand on what AM is saying, for filling space, get some kitty hair in there. Look for long strand filler, then move to short strand, then move to filler, THEN move to glazing putty...THEN move to high build primer...THEN move to texture spray...THEN move to the color.

Guess how many of those steps I used for my A-pillars? ALL OF THEM! There was plenty and I mean PLENTY of sanding going on. That's why my finished pillars look so good. There was a LOT of time spent on them (and to think that I'm not even finished).