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soros151 · 08-09-2006, 12:07 PM

WOW, nice web!

Katana · 08-09-2006, 02:43 PM

Well this guy lives next to me in Greece!Haha!!!

Kr0n1k · 08-21-2006, 05:23 PM

150hp is most likely pretty obtainable with a turbo kit, seems as though the Blitz SC kits have put down 141whp on a dyno a couple of times on xA's/xB's on ScionLife, I would think with out the parastic losses of turning a compressor, a turbo kit such as the Greddy kit for the 1NZFE should easily put down 150whp. What hasn't really been disscused anywhere, is porting and polishing the head, or any type of valve work.

soros151 · 08-21-2006, 05:27 PM

Here you go, info on port and polish on the 1NZ-FE...

http://www.scionlife.com/forums/view...r=asc&&start=0

RossP · 08-21-2006, 07:25 PM

Guys unfortunately we seem to be forgetting that these turbo kits etc that are available for the Scion Xb/MK1 Yaris/Vitz are designed to work in bigger engine spaces (lets admit the new Yaris doesn't have the most room under the bonnet). So these kits will fit, but will need a lot of modifications to fit the new Yaris properly. as for the 4e-fte sawp, can't say i see it happening in the new yaris

OxyG3nE · 08-21-2006, 08:47 PM

soros151.. without puttinga turbo its possible to get like 24hp ? like in the post u puted

soros151 · 08-22-2006, 01:51 AM

Not enough room!? Dude, open your hood again and check. There is a LOTTT of room there. I think there has been enough arguments about space. I think that if there is space for a 2ZZ, there is enough room for a turbo kit.

soros151 · 08-22-2006, 01:54 AM

I actually read the whole thing for the 1NZ, but it was a long time ago. Sorry if I don't remember all the details, but I think that he eventually even lose some power when they did something to the stock intake manifold. They actually make some good points on the 1NZ.

RoninMax · 08-22-2006, 02:25 AM

I think the biggest problem is the camshaft. There is no one out there to make aftermarket performance camshaft. You can put a ITB on the 1NZFE but the stock camshaft is so low lift than the ITB set up is usless. I am always a NA guy. On the other hand, the Blitz supercharger is a pretty good piece since you can choose to start you supercharge in OFF, LOW, MID, HIGH. So if you dont want to use the supercharger, you can just turn it off.
Unlike the Greddy one, They are always on.

ChinoCharles · 08-22-2006, 11:27 AM

While we are on the topic of N/A, what do you guys think are realistic numbers for a done up N/A Yaris? We're talking pistons, rods, cams, ITB's, everything. I always had more respect for people that tuned their cars without the use of FI. However, I don't think the 1NZFE is potent enough to put up any kind of numbers without FI. What do you all think?

heylookitsjames · 08-22-2006, 06:59 PM

I think it really depends on how much money you want to put in it... look at the much more primitive 4AGE... look at how much power the Forumla Atlantic version makes... I'm sure the 1NZFE could be built to have similar numbers to that, but it'd be mostly useless on the street. I assume you could get near what the greddy charger gives and still have it be streetable.

riceboy · 08-22-2006, 08:16 PM

but why sink so much money into this car?? having a nice looking customized car w/ some pep is one thing.. but putting anything more than 10g's is getting kind of out there...

SimmZ · 08-22-2006, 09:55 PM

I must admit I don't read all reply to that threat. Just by reading the initial question, I think it doesn't make sens. "Yaris" and "performance" in the same phrase doesn't make sense. "Yaris" and "cheap car", or "fuel economic", or "reliable cheap car" is more credible.

I don't buy an Echo for performance, I buy it because it was cheap and the fuel economy is awesome. It was very reliable too.

eTiMaGo · 09-23-2006, 06:59 AM

As far as I know the engine should be able to handle a good amount of power from a turbo. Here in Thailand there is another car called the Soluna Vios, basically a mini sedan, which also comes in a factory turbo version, but the engine is the same as the Yaris, and does 143HP. Here's abit of info:

http://paultan.org/archives/2005/11/...ta-vios-turbo/

So in theory it may be possible to transplant that engine into a yaris :D

ChinoCharles · 09-23-2006, 01:11 PM

Interesting...

ItsMyDaily · 09-26-2006, 08:59 PM

probably be cheaper to just swap in the 2zz, or even maybe a k20 motor to get good power. It is very doable, and you'll be making more power then the car could ever make NA, or with a turbo by just adding a stock motor swap. The recent super street had a honda fit on the cover with a k20 making around 240whp!!!

sam07yaris · 09-27-2006, 12:22 AM

K20 swap with exact engine mounts to a 2z yaris engine? Are pigs flying or what?lol

soros151 · 09-27-2006, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sam07yaris

K20 swap with exact engine mounts to a 2z yaris engine? Are pigs flying or what?lol

VERY TRUE!!

08-09-2006, 12:07 PM	#1
soros151 Another question... :D Drives: Scion tC 06 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 70	WOW, nice web! __________________ One tire nearer to my goal

08-09-2006, 02:43 PM	#2
Katana Drives: Yaris LB 1.3lt 06 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Under the hood! Posts: 1,124	Well this guy lives next to me in Greece!Haha!!! __________________ It's not the ride, it's the rider!

08-21-2006, 05:23 PM	#3
Kr0n1k Drives: AE101 Prizm('07 Yaris 3DR TBA) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 55	150hp is most likely pretty obtainable with a turbo kit, seems as though the Blitz SC kits have put down 141whp on a dyno a couple of times on xA's/xB's on ScionLife, I would think with out the parastic losses of turning a compressor, a turbo kit such as the Greddy kit for the 1NZFE should easily put down 150whp. What hasn't really been disscused anywhere, is porting and polishing the head, or any type of valve work. __________________ Finally got a loan... going to test drive Metorite Metallic 5SPD Hatch 11/06...

08-21-2006, 05:27 PM	#4
soros151 Another question... :D Drives: Scion tC 06 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 70	Here you go, info on port and polish on the 1NZ-FE... http://www.scionlife.com/forums/view...r=asc&&start=0 __________________ One tire nearer to my goal

08-22-2006, 01:51 AM	#7
soros151 Another question... :D Drives: Scion tC 06 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 70	Not enough room!? Dude, open your hood again and check. There is a LOTTT of room there. I think there has been enough arguments about space. I think that if there is space for a 2ZZ, there is enough room for a turbo kit. __________________ One tire nearer to my goal

08-21-2006, 07:25 PM	#5
RossP Drives: MK I Vitz 1.0l F Package Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Paphos, Cyprus Posts: 81	Guys unfortunately we seem to be forgetting that these turbo kits etc that are available for the Scion Xb/MK1 Yaris/Vitz are designed to work in bigger engine spaces (lets admit the new Yaris doesn't have the most room under the bonnet). So these kits will fit, but will need a lot of modifications to fit the new Yaris properly. as for the 4e-fte sawp, can't say i see it happening in the new yaris

08-21-2006, 08:47 PM	#6
OxyG3nE Drives: Toyota Yaris 2007 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Montreal , Quebec , Canada Posts: 373	soros151.. without puttinga turbo its possible to get like 24hp ? like in the post u puted

08-22-2006, 01:54 AM	#8
soros151 Another question... :D Drives: Scion tC 06 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 70	I actually read the whole thing for the 1NZ, but it was a long time ago. Sorry if I don't remember all the details, but I think that he eventually even lose some power when they did something to the stock intake manifold. They actually make some good points on the 1NZ. __________________ One tire nearer to my goal

08-22-2006, 02:25 AM	#9
RoninMax Drives: Yaris 3 Dr, AE86 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 49	I think the biggest problem is the camshaft. There is no one out there to make aftermarket performance camshaft. You can put a ITB on the 1NZFE but the stock camshaft is so low lift than the ITB set up is usless. I am always a NA guy. On the other hand, the Blitz supercharger is a pretty good piece since you can choose to start you supercharge in OFF, LOW, MID, HIGH. So if you dont want to use the supercharger, you can just turn it off. Unlike the Greddy one, They are always on. __________________ Maxwell Arancon Pass Racing Inc 148 S.8th Ave, Unit F Industry, CA 91746 626-961-6284 626-369-4418

08-22-2006, 11:27 AM	#10
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	While we are on the topic of N/A, what do you guys think are realistic numbers for a done up N/A Yaris? We're talking pistons, rods, cams, ITB's, everything. I always had more respect for people that tuned their cars without the use of FI. However, I don't think the 1NZFE is potent enough to put up any kind of numbers without FI. What do you all think?

08-22-2006, 06:59 PM	#11
heylookitsjames maintenance of momentum View User's Garage Drives: 2007 5spd 3dr Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Riverside CA Posts: 129	I think it really depends on how much money you want to put in it... look at the much more primitive 4AGE... look at how much power the Forumla Atlantic version makes... I'm sure the 1NZFE could be built to have similar numbers to that, but it'd be mostly useless on the street. I assume you could get near what the greddy charger gives and still have it be streetable.

08-22-2006, 08:16 PM	#12
riceboy Drives: icebox Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: CAN Posts: 1,003	but why sink so much money into this car?? having a nice looking customized car w/ some pep is one thing.. but putting anything more than 10g's is getting kind of out there...

08-22-2006, 09:55 PM	#13
SimmZ Drives: 2k3 Cavalier & 2k2 Echo Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Quebec Posts: 260	I must admit I don't read all reply to that threat. Just by reading the initial question, I think it doesn't make sens. "Yaris" and "performance" in the same phrase doesn't make sense. "Yaris" and "cheap car", or "fuel economic", or "reliable cheap car" is more credible. I don't buy an Echo for performance, I buy it because it was cheap and the fuel economy is awesome. It was very reliable too. __________________ 2003 Chevy Cavalier Ecotec - His car! 2002 Toyota Echo Sedan - Her car... FOR SALE!

09-23-2006, 06:59 AM	#14
eTiMaGo vroom vroom View User's Garage Drives: lil red 5-door Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 7,744	As far as I know the engine should be able to handle a good amount of power from a turbo. Here in Thailand there is another car called the Soluna Vios, basically a mini sedan, which also comes in a factory turbo version, but the engine is the same as the Yaris, and does 143HP. Here's abit of info: http://paultan.org/archives/2005/11/...ta-vios-turbo/ So in theory it may be possible to transplant that engine into a yaris :D

09-23-2006, 01:11 PM	#15
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	Interesting...

09-26-2006, 08:59 PM	#16
ItsMyDaily The LittleBastard View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Liftback Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 297	probably be cheaper to just swap in the 2zz, or even maybe a k20 motor to get good power. It is very doable, and you'll be making more power then the car could ever make NA, or with a turbo by just adding a stock motor swap. The recent super street had a honda fit on the cover with a k20 making around 240whp!!! __________________ Yaris Mods: 20% Tints Ground wires 2007 Toyota Yaris Liftback - Current 2004 Honda S2000 - Sold 1986 Toyota Corolla SR5 - Sold DIY: Groundwire Kit

09-27-2006, 12:22 AM	#17
sam07yaris Drives: 07 yaris sedan (silver) STICK Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Tiverton, RI Posts: 244	K20 swap with exact engine mounts to a 2z yaris engine? Are pigs flying or what?lol __________________

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