Sleey0's Turbo Projec!

[xbgod]

Brother I hope you do get your build the way you want. Your just taking to many avenues of approach for 7psi. Hell those rods are safe on 10psi. Your daily driver is no longer going to be that but you'll figure that out.

Almost forgot, I don't need you to stand-up for me. People just get pissed because I beat them to the next level, it's human nature. And I know where I stand in-line, in this food chain of the 1NZ-FE.

Belive me, when people do get the chance to see me at a show..I never get a hatter at me...My arms are the size of some peoples thighs and my neck gets lost in my traps. Just like I build powerful motors I treat my body the same.

I hope your on the war path to build this now....that's my goal...piss you off bad enough you might just get there...Reverse psycho-therapy is great.

Now build something

XBG

[sleey0]

And some new info gained by a trusted member.

Pistons and rods may be a project down the road now depending on my funds standpoint here in the next month or two,

So no more bashing/talking/whatever about the rods/pistons and engine pull plz.

[sleey0]

Back to my project.

Should I get the 1ZZ injectors? Or go bigger, like tC?

Performace/sftermarket ones?

Any suggestions......Thanks

[Morgan]

Originally Posted by PETERPOOP

Not true. The meth actually lasts quite awhile. Depends on how you drive of course. Since I am maxing out at about 8-9lbs of boost, i have my meth kick in at 2lbs of boost. I also buy HEET to use as my meth, and it's only a couple bucks a bottle at WAL-MART. Takes about maybe 8-9 bottles to fill the entire meth kit? A full tank of meth can last me about a month with my driving. However, I don't street race and go into boost every chance I get....

ps: I wouldn't have even gotten the meth kit if i wasn't going to tune with it.





Not true. I am running 99.9999% meth and my stock hose lines haven't broke....

I was going through the 1 gallon tank (the one pictured) every couple of days or roughly 100 miles. I started buying methanol in bulk from a local auto shop. If you factor in the $40 methanol storage 5 gal tank and then $5 per gallon, it wasn't "very" expensive, so I guess I take back my intensifier.

Oh yes and HEET is a great substitute if you can not find methanol in bulk quantities, also most washer fluids will list methanol content if you can do some calculation on what temperatures they work in. Roughly a -20* solution is 25-30% methanol, but living in a state where it rarely freezes.... the closest I ever found local to me was +20* washer mix

Originally Posted by cali yaris

I run 50/50, and I will also disagree with this.


Where exactly did the 30% come from?

As to the lines breaking, I had to keep extra tubing in the car and a pair of scissors on me at all times... along with a hex head 6mm and a 14mm wrench. I never had a problem with any of the lines in the car, only the one from the pump outlet to the injector. After playing with where the line was routed and eliminating that as a possible cause for leaks, I assumed it was the tubing and after switching to a higher thickness tubing I never had any issues.

My 30% by volume (not weight) came from my own diagnostics. I'm not saying I'm a "genius" by any means but it ran quicker from 25 to 75 mph in 5th gear when the mix was between 2/3 to 3/4 water to 1/3 - 1/4 methanol. Of course if you live anywhere outside of my neighborhood (humidity, elevation... blah blah variables), this may not be helpful to you. However, I was sharing what worked for me... sorry for the intrusion....

[PETERPOOP]

I would have went the windshield wiper fluid route for the meth, but because I am in hawaii, they don't sell the windshield washer fluid that could work.

[sleey0]

Ok. Here we can talk about aftermarket pistons and rods and how our learning ECU will handle the lower C:R.

I am making some calls today an will report back what I find.

FEEL FREE TO DISCUSS.....

<And, thank you Garm and Aras>

[sleey0]

...... reserverd

[sleey0]

Just wondering if the ECU woulod re-learn the C:R if it was minimally changed , say like 10:1 iinstead of 10.5:1.

All I want to do is beef up my internals a bit to hit 12psi to 1bar reliably,

I called AEM, CP, and ARIA but all are closed on weekends and will have to wait for answers lol.

I should just yank my cars ECU and send it to CTScott to play with. He could get it in constant open-loop then none of this matters lol.

Thanks for listening,
Wes

[xbgod]

I see this threads been Hi-jacked.....it's missing posts now too.

Instead of worring about all this other nonsense, you could just play it safe, since this is your DAILY DRIVER and put a reliable kit on have some fun and then play with the big dogs when you can afford to not have it be a daily driver.

All your threads are running wild with no end results. Look no one cares anymore. you are the only one responding to your own threads.

I give up, I quite, I resigne.....I'm throwing in the towel.....I'm ringing the bell.


XBG

[sleey0]

Thanks.for.that i guess.

I just want learn and.help the community.

Just because i havent.started.yet doesn't mean i cant gain some knowledge.

I.am.doing.like u told me to.

Aras, one minuteu tell me.to call arias and.aem and now you.are.telling me my threads are.worthless.

I.dont.get u sometimes bro.

Why be nice.too me in emails and.then put me down in my own hreads?

Instead, share your knowledge here and help.

Confusing.as.sbit.

Help me or.dont. i thought you were helping and.then.tbis?

You have a split personality bro....

[Parmas]

Originally Posted by sleey0

Just wondering if the ECU woulod re-learn the C:R if it was minimally changed , say like 10:1 iinstead of 10.5:1.

All I want to do is beef up my internals a bit to hit 12psi to 1bar reliably,

I called AEM, CP, and ARIA but all are closed on weekends and will have to wait for answers lol.

I should just yank my cars ECU and send it to CTScott to play with. He could get it in constant open-loop then none of this matters lol.

Thanks for listening,
Wes

I think the main issue related with the stock ecu isn't the pistons or rods but the turbo setup itself.

Let me explain:

- Pistons with lower compression mean that they differ in height (by few mm) versus others with more compression. Now if you change the pistons to a lower compression, you might be aware that the less compression means a bigger combustion chamber since the piston is effectively going up the same height. The bigger the chamber, the more the engine needs air and fuel to make a good bang.

-If you remain with the stock ecu, the ecu doesn't know that the engine needs more air and fuel to make a good mixture in the chamber which will result in startup, knocking and engine dying issues since the ecu is giving the same amount of fuel as if you are still at 10.5:1.

-Regarding the turbo setup, I am one of the guys that don't vote to remain with stock ecu because of the much issues with turbo systems. I don't mean it can't be done but will probably cost you more money and patience to have good results.

As xbg said you should check other threads and you will surely find your answers.

[sleey0]

Originally Posted by Parmas

I think the main issue related with the stock ecu isn't the pistons or rods but the turbo setup itself.

Let me explain:

- Pistons with lower compression mean that they differ in height (by few mm) versus others with more compression. Now if you change the pistons to a lower compression, you might be aware that the less compression means a bigger combustion chamber since the piston is effectively going up the same height. The bigger the chamber, the more the engine needs air and fuel to make a good bang.

-If you remain with the stock ecu, the ecu doesn't know that the engine needs more air and fuel to make a good mixture in the chamber which will result in startup, knocking and engine dying issues since the ecu is giving the same amount of fuel as if you are still at 10.5:1.

-Regarding the turbo setup, I am one of the guys that don't vote to remain with stock ecu because of the much issues with turbo systems. I don't mean it can't be done but will probably cost you more money and patience to have good results.

As xbg said you should check other threads and you will surely find your answers.

Thanks for the info!!! Really good stuff.

And XBG, the learning-ECU issue when changing pistons and lowering C:R was from Garm.

MODS if XBGod is right, and all pieces of info about rods, pistons, the ecu, and ways around it (that are being tried), and C:R are already in another thread.

THEN PLEASE CLOSE OR MERGE!!!!

Thanks.

[sleey0]

Originally Posted by Parmas

I think the main issue related with the stock ecu isn't the pistons or rods but the turbo setup itself.

Let me explain:

- Pistons with lower compression mean that they differ in height (by few mm) versus others with more compression. Now if you change the pistons to a lower compression, you might be aware that the less compression means a bigger combustion chamber since the piston is effectively going up the same height. The bigger the chamber, the more the engine needs air and fuel to make a good bang.

-If you remain with the stock ecu, the ecu doesn't know that the engine needs more air and fuel to make a good mixture in the chamber which will result in startup, knocking and engine dying issues since the ecu is giving the same amount of fuel as if you are still at 10.5:1.

-Regarding the turbo setup, I am one of the guys that don't vote to remain with stock ecu because of the much issues with turbo systems. I don't mean it can't be done but will probably cost you more money and patience to have good results.

As xbg said you should check other threads and you will surely find your answers.

Garm is the 1 that told me changing the ratio will mess up the stock ecu n then you would need stand alone.

If we could lower the ratio and use a piggy back that would work perfect for my situation.

But no 1 has figured out the closed loop situation. C t scott said he was gonna look at it, but IDK.

[sleey0]

PLEASE for now-foward if you don't have anything to contribute NICELY then just move along.

I don't need this. This will be my fist Boosted project and I want help and opnion, NOT mockery and foolishness.

Why is it only my thread that gets all trashed? I am basically trying to do what Focus_Shift is doing just MAYBE a little different.

Is there a sleey0 hate club around here? What did I ever do bu show my excitement and ask a lot of questions?

If that is all I am guilty of then these boards shouldn't exist.

Yes, I am a month or two away from getting everything I need to proceed, but that doesn't mean we can't share info NICELY and in an APPROPRIATE manner.


Thanks for those that are helping me, BTW.

Wes

[xbgod]

Well, it's good to see all of your stuff on one thread now. At least now when your asking a question we know it's souly for your build. No more crazy other threads to keep going back and fourth too. I think you will find this a much easier way to have all your questions answered.

The only reason you were getting so much crap is because it was all over the place and alot of this stuff was answered in other peoples turbo projects. At least now it's under control and should move forward.

Talk at you guys next week.

XBG

[Parmas]

Originally Posted by sleey0

Why is it only my thread that gets all trashed? I am basically trying to do what Focus_Shift is doing just MAYBE a little different.


Wes

Dear Wes I know this project isn't an easy one and will probably cost you a lot of hassle so I understand that you are nervous about this but you need to focus on what you read. During the time doing my turbo project, 2years ago btw, I wrote many good information related to my build in order not to mislead anything.

During the time I was making mine, the only help I could find was Garm since he was the only one I knew about doing the custom turbo setup.
Saying this, if you re-read the quote here you will understand that many of your answers are in other threads since you are not alone here.

In the case you have a different question or an update on your build than you post here.

Regards

[sleey0]

Ok got it.

I will search my ass off!

The only problem is I have only 1 thread to really help me because of the same xage kit I will use focu_shift.

I will read your thread again but wasn't yours custom built?

Thanks, Parmas!

[sleey0]

I need to know QUICKLY if the tC injectors (2az) will work with the 1NZ.

I came across a set for $100 and want to jump on it but don't know if they will work with the 1NZ.