Toyota Recalls

[SilverBack]

[RedRide]

Originally Posted by Twistoffate0817

Hello, today I went to buy a honda civic, due to im sort of unsatisfied with my yaris, and I hate to report that the yaris is worth way less then before toyota started having issues. The salesman basically told me im screwed now, due to toyotas recalls. So stick with your cars for a long time :)

Help me m understand this......

Are you saying a Honda dealer wants to give you less than it worth if you trade in your yaris hoping you believe their BS?.

Yaris is not even involved in any recall.

Honda is actually the company that is having overall quality issues.

[RedRide]

Originally Posted by 127.0.0.1

that will never happen. it is impossible to meet new emission standards without electronic throttle controls except on very limited set of engine designs.

the lag between human foot on a cable to the throttle body vs the electronics
figuring out what you are attempting to do allows too many emissions. having the computer intervene ahead of time ensures the ECU can keep within parameters and never go outside the envelope.

Never say never.

The TBW is more related to MPG, not emissions.
The ECU trying to figure out what you are tring to do is a never ending excersize in futility at best.

If the general public loses faith in the TBW system they, will design TB cable in future designs. It is a buyers market after all.

TBW seemed like a good idea a first but it is not standing up to the test of time.
The auto industry in in the mist or a high tech orgy and perhaps they need to rethink the TBW concept

IMO, throttles should be under the direct control of the driver just like brakes are.

Would you buy a car with a brake by wire sys where your brake pedal is only conected to an electric sensor?
I certainly would not.

[winfong]

if you.... take off your cats, Change your headers to an after market 421, Change to a straight through Muffler..... and Bore a few holes in your Airbox (before the Filter).... you won't get that "Lag" effect.....
Your LAG effect will turn into a "SURGE" effect....

And you will LOVE the drive.....

^^

[jambo101]

Originally Posted by DerFlosser

Maybe you could post the work order or email a copy of the work order to the OP. That might help if they are experiencing this.

The work order i got just said wires changed in engine bay The service manager was quit vague about what the mechanic was actually changing and kept assuring me not to worry as its under warranty

[sqcomp]

GM would have to GIVE me a car for free before I'd drive one.

The problem with the big three is that the product and support sucks. Period.

My last car I bought new (dodge SRT). I will not buy another American car because of the lack of everything, engineering, quality, and dealer support because of that car. Yes, I could smoke a 350Z and an S2000...when the car worked...

Within 3 years I had that car in for problems no less than twelve times. MOST of those instances, I had to fix it myself because the "techs" couldn't figure out what to do to replace spark plug wires that liked to melt (just one of the many problems).

My little Yaris, has saved me money, it looks good, and has better resale value than any other car I've owned. I have not had any issues with it at all. The dealership has treated me like gold as well...even though I purchased the bottom line vehicle.

[jambo101]

Originally Posted by ozmdd

Twist...you went to buy a civic when you have an 09 Yaris? Yeah, the salesman thinks he's got an easy mark, I'm afraid. And "yes", your value will appear to suck on a 1-year old car. You are smack dab in the worst possible spot for depreciation..

Lot of people never realize that depreciation is real money leaving your pocket,trading a new car after just 1 year in this particular case will cost the owner around $4000 for the Yaris and another $4-$5k depreciation on the HondaI'll guarantee if the OP was dealing in real cash instead of plastic, paperwork and monthly payments the wisdom of this move might be more apparent.

[MUSKOKA800]

Originally Posted by Twistoffate0817

The salesman basically told me

Well, that's it then. It must be fact.

[MUSKOKA800]

Originally Posted by fearturtle44

The manuf company is also saying that they produced the part according to Toyota specs. I see the lawyers coming out of the woodwork on this one!

In the Toronto Star article Toyota state that it is no fault of the manufacturer. Toyota take full responsibility.

Toyota no doubt engineered the part then tendered it out for production. It would appear to be a design flaw, not a manufacturing defect.

[DerFlosser]

Obviously the guy is a troll.

[Kongo-Otto]

So ... we have the recall here in Europe:

Affected Cars Production
AYGO Februar 2005 - August 2009
iQ November 2008 - November 2009
Yaris November 2005 - September 2009
Auris Oktober 2006 - 5. Januar 2010
Corolla Oktober 2006 - Dezember 2009
Verso Februar 2009 - 5. Januar 2010
Avensis November 2008 - Dezember 2009
RAV4 November 2005 - November 2009
Source: Toyota Cologne, Germany

Sorry, was too lazy to translate everything. Our Yaris is made in France at TMMF, except Yaris TS which came from Japan.

Looks like we did not dodge the gas pedal recal...

[chew246214]

OK if you check other posts you will see I had to go on a nice extended ride with the service manager of the local dealer... we got to talking so this is an unoffical heads up.... Oweners of 2000- 2004 or 2005 toyota tacomas are getting a recall for frame rot again.. He doesn't think it will be as easy for buy backs as the past 1995-2000 frame recalls but is anticipating to have to check every frame rustproof, or even replace the frames if needed... the trucks values are too high to justify the buyback program that they did on the last round of recalls.... I think we just had too much time driving around and he probably told me quite a bit more then he should have.. but hey just passing on the info figuring people here might know others or even yourselves with the affected trucks..... All unoffical of course... if it helps you great if not sorry to waste your time

[BluYrs]

It's official- the recall involves the Yaris as well, only in Europe.
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/01/29/o...els-1-8-milli/

Also, the Fit has some issues...
http://www.autoblog.com/2010/01/29/h...und-the-world/

[RedRide]

Originally Posted by jambo101

The work order i got just said wires changed in engine bay The service manager was quit vague about what the mechanic was actually changing and kept assuring me not to worry as its under warranty

Changing wires? You have "bad wires"?

I must say, Toyota now seems to be getting a bit evasivie about the TBW problems.

There is obviously something wrong with some controler and/or a design flaw and saying the solution is just a "wire change" reaks of a public relation campaign designed to sugar coat the problms.

You have every right to be "woried" and concerned about it as it is your car!
If it was me, I would demand to know exactly what the problem is/was and, exactly what steps were taken to rectifiy the probem.
You also have a legal right to know.

I repete, it is your car!

[ROCKLAND TOYOTA]

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/01/29/o...els-1-8-milli/

IQ, yaris and a few more.....

[thebarber]

dbw ftL

[eht13]

Updated FAQ's for the US HERE

[Kongo-Otto]

AYGO Februar 2005 - August 2009
iQ November 2008 - November 2009
Yaris November 2005 - September 2009
Auris Oktober 2006 - 5. Januar 2010
Corolla Oktober 2006 - Dezember 2009
Verso Februar 2009 - 5. Januar 2010
Avensis November 2008 - Dezember 2009
RAV4 November 2005 - November 2009