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Old 11-03-2008, 04:21 PM   #109
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...then don't buy one. I loooooooove my Phit!! It is unquestionably the gold standard for so-called economy cars. I made a very good choice, I feel. Cool color too!
Unquestionably? Seems like there are a lot of people questioning...
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Old 11-03-2008, 04:28 PM   #110
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i don't know where you guys are getting these figures from?
this is as per honda site usa.
base fit mt 14,550
base fit at 15,350
sport fit mt 16,060
sport fit at 16,910

as per toyota site which only had these
base yaris 3 door mt 13,715
base yaris 5 door at 15,174
no sport manual to compare?
sport yaris at 17,874

now these toyota figures are configured to match
what the fit has. but yaris still doesn't have enough
option to compare exactly.
there is no base 5 door manual either so i used 3 door.
as you can see numbers are really close.
and to those buying sport 5 doors you are paying more.
17,874 yaris vs. 16,910 fit.
thats a total 964 difference.
thats some rims to me. i don't know about you.
Website =/= individual dealership prices. Lots of people are getting their numbers from dealerships that they've visited. Dealerships are franchises and are able to determine their own prices according to demand in their specific areas. Also, let's not forget tax, documentation, delivery, dealer specific add-ons, etc.
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Old 11-03-2008, 05:05 PM   #111
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In Canada there was no contest when I priced out a Yaris and a Fit. Just over 17 for the Yaris, just over 19 for the Fit.
$19,280 for the manual Fit SPORT. ($20,480 for the auto)

How much does the Yaris RS cost? $18,815 for the manual ($20,165 for the auto)

So thats a difference of $465 for the stick, and only $315 for the auto.

What's are these comments abt "all the extra money" the Fit costs over the Yaris? $300-500 is hardly a hefty premium. In fact, when you consider all the other nice, amazing things the new Fit has over the Yaris, there's no premium at all. That $400 is the cost of all the other features the Fit gets you over a Yaris on their respective top of the line models!

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Website =/= individual dealership prices. Lots of people are getting their numbers from dealerships that they've visited. Dealerships are franchises and are able to determine their own prices according to demand in their specific areas. Also, let's not forget tax, documentation, delivery, dealer specific add-ons, etc.
And thats a good point I hadnt thought abt per se, since all the Honda and Toyota dealerships here in Collingwood and Barrie, Ontario are listing at stated online listed price. We arent seeing dealerships marking the prices up. Man, sucks that some (many?) are having to deal w/ that though. Seems strange to me, wouldnt like that at all.
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Old 11-03-2008, 05:15 PM   #112
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Since I own a 2007 as well as a 2009 Phit, I can tell you that unquestionably that the Phit is a better car. It's safer, handles better (stock), the seats are more comfortable, it's more powerful, and offers a Nav system which is incredible. I love the Yaris, but I loooooooove the Phit!
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Old 11-03-2008, 05:17 PM   #113
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...then don't buy one. I loooooooove my Phit!! It is unquestionably the gold standard for so-called economy cars. I made a very good choice, I feel. Cool color too!
easy there..got nothing against it..well actually i do,,, im just telling sum people some of the downside... engine wise id say the fit is better.. again steering wheel is a plus... but that damn door is botherin me.. which it did bother me on the old civics as well .. but overall its ur car.. i think u did good job choosing the fit.. its a great car... i just cant past the shell being too thin.sorry bro.
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Old 11-03-2008, 07:03 PM   #114
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Since I own a 2007 as well as a 2009 Phit, I can tell you that unquestionably that the Phit is a better car. It's safer, handles better (stock), the seats are more comfortable, it's more powerful, and offers a Nav system which is incredible. I love the Yaris, but I loooooooove the Phit!
Sorry bobby, your suggestions (as educated as they may be) are still completely subjective. Most of us have weighed the ups and downs between the two (prices, options, etc.) and some of us feel that the Yaris is far superior to the Fit in most areas. You don't agree, and that's perfectly fine because it's all subjective. But to say that it's "unquestionably" the best car in its class is straight-up false.

Safer? Where are the numbers for this?

Handles better? Subjective

Seats more comfortable? Subjective, and you've probably never sat in an S model before.

NAV system offered? Yaris now has this option too.
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Old 11-03-2008, 07:17 PM   #116
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also hes forgetting maybe that hes on a yaris forum..
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Old 11-03-2008, 07:18 PM   #117
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also hes forgetting maybe that hes on a yaris forum..
I'll second that Marcus!
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Old 11-03-2008, 07:22 PM   #118
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Sorry bobby, your suggestions (as educated as they may be) are still completely subjective. Most of us have weighed the ups and downs between the two (prices, options, etc.) and some of us feel that the Yaris is far superior to the Fit in most areas. You don't agree, and that's perfectly fine because it's all subjective. But to say that it's "unquestionably" the best car in its class is straight-up false.

Safer? Where are the numbers for this?

Handles better? Subjective

Seats more comfortable? Subjective, and you've probably never sat in an S model before.

NAV system offered? Yaris now has this option too.

The seats may be a subjective opinion (they feel more supportive that the seats on the Yaris...after a long drive in the Yaris I had to have a chiropracter waiting for me when I arrived at my destination! I have not sat in an S model...I own a regular 2007 hatch, and that's what I'm comparing it to) but the Yaris just don't don't feel safe at high (60 miles an hour or more) speed, and Consumer Reports specifically points to that reason that they cannot recommend people buying the Yaris. They feel that the emergency handling on the Yaris is sub-par, and I agree. Consumer Reports feels that the Phit is a better car, and having owned BOTH, I must agree. It is a quieter car, there's more room in the back, and the "magic seats" which allow the back seats to flip UP, is such a great feature. The Phit has EIGHT airbags....how many does the Yaris have? Since the 2009 Phit has not been crash tested yet, I will be curious to how it does compared to the Yaris.

I am not aware that the Yaris offers a built-in Navigation system.

Has anybody read a magazine review or an online auto review which rates the Yaris as a better car than a Phit? If so, I'd like to see it. I have only read reviews which tout the Phit as an overal better car than the Yaris, and that has been my impression as well.

What can I say...I am becoming a Phit Phreak!
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Old 11-03-2008, 07:24 PM   #119
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i think i should take my pop corn out this will be good.. i just like to watch..
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Old 11-03-2008, 07:25 PM   #120
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also hes forgetting maybe that hes on a yaris forum..
No, I'm not. I own a Yaris, and I like it a lot. I also happen to now own a Phit, which I feel is a better car. I think there is room on this forum to compare the Yaris to other similar cars...don't you?
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Old 11-03-2008, 07:29 PM   #121
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No, I'm not. I own a Yaris, and I like it a lot. I also happen to now own a Phit, which I feel is a better car. I think there is room on this forum to compare the Yaris to other similar cars...don't you?
There's a difference between comparison and fanboyism. You're dangerously close to the latter.
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Old 11-03-2008, 09:12 PM   #122
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I don't think I'm being a fanatic about the Phit, but I certainly am enthusiastic. It's a wonderful car.

Has anybody come across an auto magazine review or an online auto review which declares the Yaris is an overall better car than the Phit? I have not seen one.

The bottom line is, we all love Japanese cars, and would never be caught dead in an American car. (EWWWWW)
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Old 11-03-2008, 09:47 PM   #123
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It's one thing to be happy with a Fit over the Yaris, it's another thing to spout out false things comparing the two and not taking criticisms with an open mind. We're all here to share information, but if you want Honda fanboy praise for your Fit, we all know where you need to go for that.

This is YARISworld, not Fitworld, or even Subcompact(as in general)world.

and in regards to you saying you're not a fanatic?

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What can I say...I am becoming a Phit Phreak!
Two posts ago... I'm just sayin'
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Old 11-03-2008, 11:12 PM   #124
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Funny you should say this, because a fully loaded Yaris cost the same as a Corolla or Matrix, and the Camry base model comes in at just a few thousand more. What exactly was your point?

Fully loaded yaris or a Fit Sport (No nav), same price, the Fit is MORE car...

If you don't like it (or Honda), just say it... Both economy cars are becoming less economy priced.
I love the Fit. It was in the running but I couldn't afford it. And Honda is my favorite company along with Toyota. In fact, I work at an Acura dealer full time.

I was just pointing out that almost $20k is just a bit too steep for most people interested in a sub-compact.
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Old 11-03-2008, 11:42 PM   #125
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this is why wars go on 'til this day ... . I think both cars are very good . The FIT is much smarter choice than a HUMMER or large S.U.V.s ( or should I say C.U.V., nothing more than rounded corners and lowered roof ) , which I view as a true foe to the FIT , YARIS . The seats are better in the FIT , test drove several ( '07 and '08 ) and they are more comfortable . The seating arrangement for cargo is much better as well . The sliding / split back seats should be standard feature like that of the XD , not an option with the power package to get more profit .
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