Yaris Sedan Deadening and Sound system upgrade

[sqcomp]

I like the link...especially the musical suggestions. I just purchased all of the musical selections.

The picture is interesting. We shouldn't constrain ourselves to live within the pillars though. I LOVE the depth aspect of the picture though.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

I just purchased all of the musical selections.

Did you really?

any good ones?

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[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

I just purchased all of the musical selections.

Where did you buy "Shoo Fly Don't Bother Me"?

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[derickveliz2]

Here are my thoughts about how the "Front Stage" differs from car to car, for example:

A Ford Mustang, is greatly favorable Front Stage because the proportions of it's body style, and the 2nd and 3rd graphics from a Yaris Sedan! with MIDS in kick area and OEM door location.

See the difference in Center Stage between both? on the Mustang you could feel people singing on the hood! I know we can manipulate the stage, but physically the Car has to do a LOT in Car Audio Systems.

3rd image shows the Point Source "MIDs" in the OEM Doors location, the stage moves towards listener, and every thing else is about the same.

Please let me know what you think, and correct me if I'm wrong.







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[sqcomp]

I had to buy the CD. It's not in my hands just yet...on the way though.

And WTH! Why do you keep crashing YW? :)

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

I had to buy the CD. It's not in my hands just yet...on the way though.

And WTH! Why do you keep crashing YW? :)

Where did you buy it?


Too many Sound Quality Car Audio secretes been exposed here! jeje

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[sqcomp]

I bought it off amazon.

D, check this out...

I just found out that I will be asked to "co-pilot" Scott Buwalda's G35 at INAC/SBN this year. Yikes! This means I'll probably be doing demos and/or presenting the car to judges. Double yikes!! This is tantamount to being asked to run Black Betty through the lanes in his stead...

I'm starting to shake...

[derickveliz2]

Congratulations!!!

I really would like to check these cars my self.

I feel like the G35 it's a Marketing tool, and Black Betty is a work of art in Car Audio Industry!

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[derickveliz2]

Look what the P99 did with Auto T/A and Auto EQ...

(why Mids allways go up to 1.6kHz?)






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[derickveliz2]

Interesting?



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[sqcomp]

That gmc piece seems to be a big version of noise canceling headphones.

Auto TA...what do you see on those measurements? Were those made by the deck or you? How does he auto TA sound?

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

That gmc piece seems to be a big version of noise canceling headphones.

Auto TA...what do you see on those measurements? Were those made by the deck or you? How does he auto TA sound?

The Deck generated those measurements!

I see point source been share by LOWs and MIDs.

Sounds ok, but stage is closer to me and a little lower. I haven't really listen to it, so in my way back home and I'll get more feed back.

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[derickveliz2]

Ok!

After many miles listening and experimenting these are my thoughts:

The deck does a great job calculating reflections and Auto EQ sound good, T/A it's a little off and x-over points is not what I like. What I do like is that puts the Phase of the speakers in sync. and balances individually each speaker output, very nice features that I'm not able to do my self.

So putting back my MIDs as a point source, and my T/A numbers (by ear) my sound-stage becomes alive, it's higher, deeper and wider.

I have the feeling that now I'm going to do a custom EQ where I keep my x-over points.

I'll let you what is the outcome.

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[sqcomp]

D,

E-mail to you. Tell me what you think of that file after you hear it in your car. The track should be a VERY good test of depth, imaging, stage height, tonality (with the guitar), and width.

[derickveliz2]

Holly Guacamole! that's nice!
I just played the track in my computer and headphones, it's amazing, how did you get the file?

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[sqcomp]

It's a demonstration from Starkey Labs. These are the people who engineer/design hearing aids.

"Cetera" IIRC is an Algorithm created by the lab to better represent the difference in spatial cues and noises that the human ear perceives.

After hearing this on your headphones, get it into your car. Let me know what your thoughts are.

I plan on burning this to a CD or putting it on a flash drive and taking it to SBN/INAC and playing it in as many vehicles as possible.

[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by sqcomp

After hearing this on your headphones, get it into your car. Let me know what your thoughts are.

Ok, I did it!

On the headphones sounds truly amazing, in the car it's a complete different experience...

First you got to think you are inside someones head and the ears are located where the sail panels are.

When Manuel turns his head away you can feel that, but he is outside the car, like I wrote above it's like the car becomes your head, so every thing happens out side the car.

When Manuel opens the door calling Luigi it's like the car is parked inside a big garage and the door is about 2 feet from the bumper of my car towards the right side, and Luigi is in another room even further away.

Manuel then sits on the left side about a foot from the left rear view mirror, a little lower like if he sits on a chair. Then Luigi comes in and goes to the right side and grabs the plastic bag, now when he puts it on top, it's like putting a huge bag over the car, it covers the complete cockpit from mirror to mirror.

Then Luigi moves to the right side and washes his hands the faucet feels like it's just beyond the right mirror, symmetrically at the same time the phone "rings" on the left side. Guido tells Manuel to pick up and I like when Manuel puts his guitar down and hits the floor.

When Luigi knocks on your head feels like he is hitting the top of the windshield on the left side. When Luigi snaps the fingers they are outside on the mirrors, then the scissors... every thing is outside the car starts on the right side right about the mirror then gets closer to the glass, BUT... never goes behind that just doesn't happen. Just moves in front of you to the left, outside the glass towards he mirror. When it moves to the top of the hair, it just goes in the center up above the windshield.

Same for the electric razor like the scissors but he doesn't goes above the head.

Then when Luigi walks around feels like he is walking outside the car from right to left. When he whispers "Cetera" in your left ear, is right where the left sail panel touches the a-pillar.


I'll try to make a diagram later.

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[derickveliz2]

Originally Posted by derickveliz2

Ok, I did it!

I'll try to make a diagram later.

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