TRD sway bar for sedan - Page 4 - Toyota Yaris Forums

Go4th · 02-06-2007, 08:56 AM

i think he is saying that so far page five has nothing to do with trd sway bar for sedan..

redglare45 · 02-06-2007, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris07LB

Dont play into the comments... that is whats taking this more and more off topic.

Amen and well said Chris

We should really focus on the topic thread and not take it into a celebrity death match sort of speak

.

Go4th · 02-06-2007, 08:47 AM

i like your wheels.. the 1st time i saw it i thought that was great.. you have to appreciate other people's ideas sometime or another.. after all thats why 1/2 of us do the same thing. either you like it or dont. dont mean you have to do it. just appreciate what other people have done.. its their taste. but i do think that was a cool looking idea..

cleong · 02-06-2007, 08:58 AM

Yaris TTE JWRC: Maybe you could shed some light on the setup you had on your Echo, from there we might learn more about why the swaybar did not work for you in your case.

Eg. Shocks, springs, tires, suspension alightment/adjustment?

ChinoCharles · 02-06-2007, 03:48 PM

Cupcake!? HAHA!

Violin · 02-06-2007, 03:49 PM

... oh... and I've had a chance to push it on some twisty roads and it performs quite well. - I like it.

*Chris07LB* · 02-06-2007, 04:08 PM

Chalk another one up for the, "it works" crowd.

bigsky2 · 02-06-2007, 05:24 PM

Well this thread was pretty entertaining.

I have to say that I have noticed that many threads have turned out this way recently...

Product threads were quite informative with pictures, impressions, comments, etc., but it seems that rampant criticism, fanboyism, and idiocy have taken control of the responses.

Overall, I'm glad to see the sway bar installed on the Yaris and I'm looking forward to more impressions, intelligent criticism, and less idiocy.

St_G · 02-06-2007, 05:31 PM

I have to admit a certain level of skepticism on the efficacy of any inexpensive mod, but I don't really understand the need to make mulitple, thread-crapping comments. If you've done a mod and didn't see much benefit, by all means mention it, but why turn it into a big fight?

In any case, this mod is cheap enough and at least designed to address my biggest complaint about the Yaris' handling, so I think I'll be giving it a shot.

cleong · 02-06-2007, 06:40 PM

Combinine the sway bar with stiffer springs and you should be all right.

St_G · 02-06-2007, 06:49 PM

If I could (afordably) do that without also lowering the car, I'd be all over it. I might still buy the TRD springs, since they don't lower very much and keep the same relative F/R heights (I REALLY don' like the look of most of the other lowering springs, as they drop the rear too much in relation to the front).

Quote:

Originally Posted by cleong

Combinine the sway bar with stiffer springs and you should be all right.

cleong · 02-06-2007, 07:08 PM

I've not bottomed out my car on TTE springs ever, though its only two weeks since I installed it. The TTE springs turn out to be really comfortable and I have to say they aren't handling-oriented-stiff.

It appears that TTE found the exact spring rate balance between ride comfort and avoiding bottoming out the car while lowering it. Handling is not so much the focus of the springs... and no one complains of an uncomfortable car, they don't realize I've swapped the springs out.

I said in another thread they drop 30/25mm front to rear, so the car sits a little lower in front actually. Tein dressup springs and Tanabes seem to do an equal front and rear drop.

A lower front tends to shift the CG of the car forward a little as well, giving better on-power steering such as coming out of corners, but the trade off is a more nervous rear end when you brake.

I've let some air out of the rear tires to help cure the restless rear, though its not something I feel. More than one passenger told me that my rear end felt like it was stepping out when I drive enthusiastically, while I just feel that it comes around really well without feeling like the car is dragging its ass through corners.

But to come back on topic, I'm really interested in the sway bar too. How springs might come into play with the swaybar, is that if the springs are too stiff, the swaybar might not be able to transfer enough weight across to the unladen wheel to make a difference.

St_G · 02-06-2007, 07:29 PM

I remember the pics of your car, Cleong, and I very much liked the stance. I'm not concerned with bottoming out so much as I just kinda like the stock ride height. But I don't at all like the pitching and rolling during turns.

So yeah, for $150 and an install that I can do myself? I'm going to give this bar a shot. Hell, if I don't feel any difference, I'm sure I can turn it around and not lose too much cash on the deal.

*Chris07LB* · 02-06-2007, 07:53 PM

Well with my Tanabe DF's, Tanabe upper strut bar, and Cusco lower tie bar, I too was told the overall improvements were all in my head...

The rear sway is next on my list.

largeorangefont · 02-06-2007, 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris07LB

Well with my Tanabe DF's, Tanabe upper strut bar, and Cusco lower tie bar, I too was told the overall improvements were all in my head...

The rear sway is next on my list.

If you still have the stock tires, get rid of them. Putting something better on is the best thing you can do, even before springs.

Both the tie bars should have helped a little.. the spring should have been more dramatic though.

Who told you that?

cleong · 02-07-2007, 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by St_G

I remember the pics of your car, Cleong, and I very much liked the stance. I'm not concerned with bottoming out so much as I just kinda like the stock ride height. But I don't at all like the pitching and rolling during turns.

So yeah, for $150 and an install that I can do myself? I'm going to give this bar a shot. Hell, if I don't feel any difference, I'm sure I can turn it around and not lose too much cash on the deal.

I'd really suggest you plump for height adjustable suspension with stiffer springs then, given your preference for the stock ride height. I'm not sure if there's anyone making springs that let you maintain your stock ride height while reducing the pitching and rolling.

Of course, the swaybar's a much cheaper option, and I think even if the problem isn't completedly fixed, you're already halfway there, and then you can think about the suspension I mentioned above.

eTiMaGo · 02-07-2007, 12:55 AM

he's making fun on the original ass-umption that the sway bar does nothing, it's all in people's heads, hence the eye-rolling smiley... right?

magoo_lc1 · 02-07-2007, 09:28 AM

Wow! for a minute i thought i was on honda tech. I hope it mellows in here thats why i like coming here: to get away from the b.s. of the other sites. If i had the car i would rock the sway.

02-06-2007, 05:24 PM	#8
bigsky2 Cousin Vitz View User's Garage Drives: Yaris RS 5DR / Vitz RS wannabe Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 1,082	Well this thread was pretty entertaining. I have to say that I have noticed that many threads have turned out this way recently... Product threads were quite informative with pictures, impressions, comments, etc., but it seems that rampant criticism, fanboyism, and idiocy have taken control of the responses. Overall, I'm glad to see the sway bar installed on the Yaris and I'm looking forward to more impressions, intelligent criticism, and less idiocy. __________________ 2007 Yaris RS Hatchback Black Sand Pearl 5DR MT DIY Speaker Spacer/Bracket Template for Yaris Hatchback http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1930

02-07-2007, 12:55 AM	#17
eTiMaGo vroom vroom View User's Garage Drives: lil red 5-door Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 7,744	he's making fun on the original ass-umption that the sway bar does nothing, it's all in people's heads, hence the eye-rolling smiley... right? __________________ The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish. - Robert Jackson Bye bye 1NZ...

02-07-2007, 09:28 AM	#18
magoo_lc1 Drives: honda civic hatch Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: missouri Posts: 144	Wow! for a minute i thought i was on honda tech. I hope it mellows in here thats why i like coming here: to get away from the b.s. of the other sites. If i had the car i would rock the sway. __________________ 91 SE-R. R.I.P old freind The influence of peers on individual behavior illustrates the seductive power of conformity And, I don't mind at all being looked down upon by purists. Indeed I don't mind at all being looked down upon by those whom I do not look up to at

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
For Sale: Lexus GS Parts - L-Tuned Body Kit, TRD Strut Tower bar, 18"StaggeredWheels.	TRD_Yaris	Items for Sale by private party	6	05-06-2010 06:43 PM
Progress 22mm Rear Sway Bar PRE-ORDER SPECIAL	03Z33	Items for Sale by private party	85	04-13-2007 11:48 AM
Sway Bar!	dngz	Wheels, Tires and Suspension Forum sponsored by The Tire Rack	55	01-12-2007 03:31 AM
sway bar	Lowfront	Wheels, Tires and Suspension Forum sponsored by The Tire Rack	12	10-18-2006 08:51 PM
Sway bar	chrisada_to2a	Wheels, Tires and Suspension Forum sponsored by The Tire Rack	13	09-05-2006 07:34 PM

02-06-2007, 08:56 AM	#1
Go4th View User's Garage Drives: Yaris S Sedan color Flint Mica Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Country: USA, State: Georgia, City: Hampton Posts: 284	i think he is saying that so far page five has nothing to do with trd sway bar for sedan..

02-06-2007, 08:47 AM	#3
Go4th View User's Garage Drives: Yaris S Sedan color Flint Mica Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Country: USA, State: Georgia, City: Hampton Posts: 284	i like your wheels.. the 1st time i saw it i thought that was great.. you have to appreciate other people's ideas sometime or another.. after all thats why 1/2 of us do the same thing. either you like it or dont. dont mean you have to do it. just appreciate what other people have done.. its their taste. but i do think that was a cool looking idea..

02-06-2007, 08:58 AM	#4
cleong Parallel Parking Pro View User's Garage Drives: Yaris 1.5 Manual Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Singapore Posts: 590	Yaris TTE JWRC: Maybe you could shed some light on the setup you had on your Echo, from there we might learn more about why the swaybar did not work for you in your case. Eg. Shocks, springs, tires, suspension alightment/adjustment?

02-06-2007, 03:48 PM	#5
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	Cupcake!? HAHA!

02-06-2007, 03:49 PM	#6
Violin View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris LB Auto Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,592	... oh... and I've had a chance to push it on some twisty roads and it performs quite well. - I like it.

02-06-2007, 04:08 PM	#7
Chris07LB Super Moderator View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Liftback Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 3,174	Chalk another one up for the, "it works" crowd.

02-06-2007, 05:31 PM	#9
St_G Drives: Black 2007 Yaris Liftback 1.5 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Memphis, TN USA Posts: 252	I have to admit a certain level of skepticism on the efficacy of any inexpensive mod, but I don't really understand the need to make mulitple, thread-crapping comments. If you've done a mod and didn't see much benefit, by all means mention it, but why turn it into a big fight? In any case, this mod is cheap enough and at least designed to address my biggest complaint about the Yaris' handling, so I think I'll be giving it a shot.

02-06-2007, 06:40 PM	#10
cleong Parallel Parking Pro View User's Garage Drives: Yaris 1.5 Manual Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Singapore Posts: 590	Combinine the sway bar with stiffer springs and you should be all right.

02-06-2007, 07:08 PM	#12
cleong Parallel Parking Pro View User's Garage Drives: Yaris 1.5 Manual Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Singapore Posts: 590	I've not bottomed out my car on TTE springs ever, though its only two weeks since I installed it. The TTE springs turn out to be really comfortable and I have to say they aren't handling-oriented-stiff. It appears that TTE found the exact spring rate balance between ride comfort and avoiding bottoming out the car while lowering it. Handling is not so much the focus of the springs... and no one complains of an uncomfortable car, they don't realize I've swapped the springs out. I said in another thread they drop 30/25mm front to rear, so the car sits a little lower in front actually. Tein dressup springs and Tanabes seem to do an equal front and rear drop. A lower front tends to shift the CG of the car forward a little as well, giving better on-power steering such as coming out of corners, but the trade off is a more nervous rear end when you brake. I've let some air out of the rear tires to help cure the restless rear, though its not something I feel. More than one passenger told me that my rear end felt like it was stepping out when I drive enthusiastically, while I just feel that it comes around really well without feeling like the car is dragging its ass through corners. But to come back on topic, I'm really interested in the sway bar too. How springs might come into play with the swaybar, is that if the springs are too stiff, the swaybar might not be able to transfer enough weight across to the unladen wheel to make a difference.

02-06-2007, 07:29 PM	#13
St_G Drives: Black 2007 Yaris Liftback 1.5 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Memphis, TN USA Posts: 252	I remember the pics of your car, Cleong, and I very much liked the stance. I'm not concerned with bottoming out so much as I just kinda like the stock ride height. But I don't at all like the pitching and rolling during turns. So yeah, for $150 and an install that I can do myself? I'm going to give this bar a shot. Hell, if I don't feel any difference, I'm sure I can turn it around and not lose too much cash on the deal.

02-06-2007, 07:53 PM	#14
Chris07LB Super Moderator View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Liftback Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: New Jersey Posts: 3,174	Well with my Tanabe DF's, Tanabe upper strut bar, and Cusco lower tie bar, I too was told the overall improvements were all in my head... The rear sway is next on my list.