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hasher22 · 01-27-2007, 09:10 PM

Hey guys.....well b 4 i get Windows Vista Home Premium i want to upgrade my comp 1st. This is what i have...

>Gigabyte 845E Series motherboard. Socket 478
>GeForce 4600 PCI - E
>Intel Pentium 4 2.4GHZ
>516 DDR Ram

That might cover the main components. But i want to upgrade it to a

>Some gigabyte motherboard socket 775
>Some geforce card
>Processor that is 3GHZ or more

bleh, i dont know alot computer hardware, just the basics. If anyone would like to direct me on a reasonable upgrade. Hence im not a hardcore gamer so i wont be playing Unreal Tournament 2007 or any high gfx accelerated games.

The word around the comp world is that no one likes pentium no more ? everyone is switchin to that other brand AMD Athlon???

thanks wiz kids :)

eTiMaGo · 01-27-2007, 09:37 PM

Hmm well there's really a lot of different options now...

The whole AMD/Intel fight is once again in the Intel camp, their new Core 2 Duo chips are blazing fast, not too expensive, and overlock like mad. Get a 6400, overclock it to 3GHz, and you can run more or less anything.

Motherboards are a dime a dozen, but better stick to a pretty well known brand like Asus, MSI, or gigabyte.

Video card, a mid-range geforce 7xxx series should do the job, I'm really not sure what's good value at the moment.

Check out www.auspcmarket.com.au , seems to be the best for aussie computer parts

tekmoe · 01-28-2007, 12:43 AM

definitely get more RAM. 2gb would be sufficient.

acrbill · 01-28-2007, 02:12 AM

I'm not much of a computer guy but I recently read some very scary stuff about windows Vista.

It might not matter to everyone, but if its even partly true its messed up.

http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut00...ista_cost.html

RogueYaris · 01-28-2007, 02:14 AM

Check this out, you'll find a ton of info on what you need.

eco · 01-28-2007, 02:33 AM

Ive always liked intel,I just think since they have the most money,they wll have better quility,and R&D.I think amd still dosent build a permenant heat sink on the chip,intel always has.

bigsky2 · 01-28-2007, 08:51 AM

AMD is losing ground right now, so avoid it for now.

Like etimago stated, the C2D chips from Intel are the best performers right now. Pair that with 2GB of ram with tight timings, and a 7800GT or 7600GS, or 7600GT for that matter, and you have a good system for Vista.

I've been a supporter of AMD since the K6 debut back in the late 90s, but the recent architecture is not strong enough to match the performance of Intel's C2D.

eco, Intel's P4 chips run at higher tempatures than AMD's x64 line of chips. The heat issue with AMD chips has been addressed a long time ago, and it is a reason why the S939 chips performed much better than similar P4 chips from Intel.

But Intel C2D turned that around pretty damn fast, and made AM2 look like a wasted project.

Bottom line, Intel C2D is your best bet for a Vista proof system for now, with room to boot.

ChinoCharles · 01-28-2007, 11:05 AM

I live by AMD chips, and they didn't get me on performance. Pricing, pricing, pricing...

TIGERDIRECT.COM: link
INTEL CORE 2 DUO 2.13 Ghz: $225.99
AMD ATHLON 64 X2 3800+ 2.0 Ghz: $144.99

INTEL CORE 2 EXTREME 2.66 Ghz: $999.99
AMD ATHLON 64 FX-60 2.6 Ghz: $399.99

I'd forget about your 3 Ghz number hasher, because these companies are officially off the speed bandwagon and on the multiprocessing bandwagon, and you're going to pay a mint for a 3 Ghz chip with all the bells and whistles. If I were you...

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...262&CatId=2328

2 MB cache and 2000 Mhz FSB... that shit is going to fly, and you're 64 bit ready.

As far as a motherboard, it all depends on what you're doing with your computer. I use mine as a home office type of workstation, mostly for writing papers and keeping up with good old YW.com... so I picked up an Asus board with built in sound and graphics to save me some money. It even had HDMI out built in, which I thought was weird. I think all in all I spend $250 on my motherboard and processor... dual core, 64 bit, 250 bucks. Do that with an Intel chip.

2 GB of ram is a lot too, unless you're hard on your computer... especially with all the high-speed DDR you see anymore. I think a gig of PC6400 is more than sufficient.

tekmoe · 01-28-2007, 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChinoCharles

2 GB of ram is a lot too, unless you're hard on your computer... especially with all the high-speed DDR you see anymore. I think a gig of PC6400 is more than sufficient.

i've been running vista for the past month since we got the volume license release thru my company. 1gb would be pushing it. 2gb is good. trust me.

twixt · 01-28-2007, 01:00 PM

I just built 5 new desktops for my company, after much research the core 2's are freaking sweet. they run fast as hell and im ridiculously jealous. bottom line go core 2 with 2 gigs of ram. ps, vista blows.

hasher22 · 01-29-2007, 05:10 PM

THanks guys im sure to look into those links and be prepared to upgrade my comp.

Though dont think i can afford Duel Core Duo Processors. I think i maybe upgrade the brands that i already have. Stickin with Intel P, geforce and gigabye. Might have to buy more ram too......though depends on the motherboard right if its DDR or DDR2?

Anyway with vista i want vista cuz i want to stream videos of my xbox360!! :)

weeeeee

thanks peeps!!! im sure this thread might help some newbies out there wit comp probs....

tmyers82 · 01-29-2007, 07:09 PM

I have been running Vista Ultimate since June and have had no problems with my amd processor. It really comes down to your price range. I have been building computers for years and have found it cheaper to build amd systems with very similar results. For good deals check zipzoomfly.com, newegg.com, and geeks.com

twixt · 01-29-2007, 07:15 PM

dude get the slowest core 2 you can, trust me its worth it. plus 6 months from now you can just throw the latest core 2 in there. TRUST ME work some overtime and put an extra 50 to go core 2.

hasher22 · 01-30-2007, 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twixt

dude get the slowest core 2 you can, trust me its worth it. plus 6 months from now you can just throw the latest core 2 in there. TRUST ME work some overtime and put an extra 50 to go core 2.

Ok well after some research (approx 4 hours of it) i came to the conclusion that Intel Core 2 Processors are too expensive for me.

The next choice for me is the Intel Pentium D Dual Core 3 GHz Processor LGA 775. This a good processor or what?......

thanks guys. Im lookin for a Socket 775 motherboard that accepts intel duel processors and with 4 PCI Slots. Anyone know a motherboard with that capability??

becuz my motherboard now accept pentium 4 processors socket 478, has 5PCI slots.
thanks peeps!!

Thanks Etimago for the link!!!!! They are local to me and i think im gonna visit them this weekend!!! what will i do without my french yaris buddy???!!! :) :) :)

01-27-2007, 09:10 PM	#1
hasher22 Look mum no stars!! Drives: Toyota Yaris 06 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Australia Sydney Posts: 1,469	Computer Wiz Kids plz help!! :) BOOYA!!! Hey guys.....well b 4 i get Windows Vista Home Premium i want to upgrade my comp 1st. This is what i have... >Gigabyte 845E Series motherboard. Socket 478 >GeForce 4600 PCI - E >Intel Pentium 4 2.4GHZ >516 DDR Ram That might cover the main components. But i want to upgrade it to a >Some gigabyte motherboard socket 775 >Some geforce card >Processor that is 3GHZ or more bleh, i dont know alot computer hardware, just the basics. If anyone would like to direct me on a reasonable upgrade. Hence im not a hardcore gamer so i wont be playing Unreal Tournament 2007 or any high gfx accelerated games. The word around the comp world is that no one likes pentium no more ? everyone is switchin to that other brand AMD Athlon??? thanks wiz kids :) __________________

01-27-2007, 09:37 PM	#2
eTiMaGo vroom vroom View User's Garage Drives: lil red 5-door Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 7,744	Hmm well there's really a lot of different options now... The whole AMD/Intel fight is once again in the Intel camp, their new Core 2 Duo chips are blazing fast, not too expensive, and overlock like mad. Get a 6400, overclock it to 3GHz, and you can run more or less anything. Motherboards are a dime a dozen, but better stick to a pretty well known brand like Asus, MSI, or gigabyte. Video card, a mid-range geforce 7xxx series should do the job, I'm really not sure what's good value at the moment. Check out www.auspcmarket.com.au , seems to be the best for aussie computer parts __________________ The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish. - Robert Jackson Bye bye 1NZ...

01-28-2007, 12:43 AM	#3
tekmoe ex-yaris owner View User's Garage Drives: 08 solstice gxp, 06 triumph s3 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: dallas, texas Posts: 344	definitely get more RAM. 2gb would be sufficient. __________________

01-28-2007, 02:12 AM	#4
acrbill Drives: Polar White Hatch Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: chicago Posts: 407	I'm not much of a computer guy but I recently read some very scary stuff about windows Vista. It might not matter to everyone, but if its even partly true its messed up. http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut00...ista_cost.html __________________ ChinoCharles Intake supporter.

01-28-2007, 08:51 AM	#7
bigsky2 Cousin Vitz View User's Garage Drives: Yaris RS 5DR / Vitz RS wannabe Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 1,082	AMD is losing ground right now, so avoid it for now. Like etimago stated, the C2D chips from Intel are the best performers right now. Pair that with 2GB of ram with tight timings, and a 7800GT or 7600GS, or 7600GT for that matter, and you have a good system for Vista. I've been a supporter of AMD since the K6 debut back in the late 90s, but the recent architecture is not strong enough to match the performance of Intel's C2D. eco, Intel's P4 chips run at higher tempatures than AMD's x64 line of chips. The heat issue with AMD chips has been addressed a long time ago, and it is a reason why the S939 chips performed much better than similar P4 chips from Intel. But Intel C2D turned that around pretty damn fast, and made AM2 look like a wasted project. Bottom line, Intel C2D is your best bet for a Vista proof system for now, with room to boot. __________________ 2007 Yaris RS Hatchback Black Sand Pearl 5DR MT DIY Speaker Spacer/Bracket Template for Yaris Hatchback http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1930

01-28-2007, 02:14 AM	#5
RogueYaris View User's Garage Drives: 2015 Abs Red Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: JAX Posts: 374	Check this out, you'll find a ton of info on what you need.

01-28-2007, 02:33 AM	#6
eco Drives: 2007 Black Yaris sedan Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Atlanta Posts: 884	Ive always liked intel,I just think since they have the most money,they wll have better quility,and R&D.I think amd still dosent build a permenant heat sink on the chip,intel always has.

01-28-2007, 11:05 AM	#8
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	I live by AMD chips, and they didn't get me on performance. Pricing, pricing, pricing... TIGERDIRECT.COM: link INTEL CORE 2 DUO 2.13 Ghz: $225.99 AMD ATHLON 64 X2 3800+ 2.0 Ghz: $144.99 INTEL CORE 2 EXTREME 2.66 Ghz: $999.99 AMD ATHLON 64 FX-60 2.6 Ghz: $399.99 I'd forget about your 3 Ghz number hasher, because these companies are officially off the speed bandwagon and on the multiprocessing bandwagon, and you're going to pay a mint for a 3 Ghz chip with all the bells and whistles. If I were you... http://www.tigerdirect.com/applicati...262&CatId=2328 2 MB cache and 2000 Mhz FSB... that shit is going to fly, and you're 64 bit ready. As far as a motherboard, it all depends on what you're doing with your computer. I use mine as a home office type of workstation, mostly for writing papers and keeping up with good old YW.com... so I picked up an Asus board with built in sound and graphics to save me some money. It even had HDMI out built in, which I thought was weird. I think all in all I spend $250 on my motherboard and processor... dual core, 64 bit, 250 bucks. Do that with an Intel chip. 2 GB of ram is a lot too, unless you're hard on your computer... especially with all the high-speed DDR you see anymore. I think a gig of PC6400 is more than sufficient.

01-28-2007, 01:00 PM	#10
twixt Drives: 07 LB,04&06 ninja 636 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: syracuse, ny Posts: 135	I just built 5 new desktops for my company, after much research the core 2's are freaking sweet. they run fast as hell and im ridiculously jealous. bottom line go core 2 with 2 gigs of ram. ps, vista blows.

01-29-2007, 05:10 PM	#11
hasher22 Look mum no stars!! Drives: Toyota Yaris 06 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Australia Sydney Posts: 1,469	THanks guys im sure to look into those links and be prepared to upgrade my comp. Though dont think i can afford Duel Core Duo Processors. I think i maybe upgrade the brands that i already have. Stickin with Intel P, geforce and gigabye. Might have to buy more ram too......though depends on the motherboard right if its DDR or DDR2? Anyway with vista i want vista cuz i want to stream videos of my xbox360!! :) weeeeee thanks peeps!!! im sure this thread might help some newbies out there wit comp probs.... __________________

01-29-2007, 07:09 PM	#12
tmyers82 Drives: Toyota Yaris Hatchback Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 68	I have been running Vista Ultimate since June and have had no problems with my amd processor. It really comes down to your price range. I have been building computers for years and have found it cheaper to build amd systems with very similar results. For good deals check zipzoomfly.com, newegg.com, and geeks.com

01-29-2007, 07:15 PM	#13
twixt Drives: 07 LB,04&06 ninja 636 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: syracuse, ny Posts: 135	dude get the slowest core 2 you can, trust me its worth it. plus 6 months from now you can just throw the latest core 2 in there. TRUST ME work some overtime and put an extra 50 to go core 2.