New Engine Management System offered for the 1NZFE

[cali yaris]

^ well, so it's not for you, that's cool. But I think it's going to serve a great many customers who don't want to custom wire a standalone.

[zachryboles]

yes this pleases me................ btw Garm when can we expect that turbo kit? *taps fingers*

[CTScott]

Any pics of the actual Yaris one installed? The one picture that I've seen thus far of the 1NZ-FE one doesn't match the connectors for the Yaris. I'm curious as there is very little space above the OEM connectors, so it seems like the ECM would have to be lowered to fit this.

[cdydjded]

Originally Posted by CTScott

Any pics of the actual Yaris one installed? The one picture that I've seen thus far of the 1NZ-FE one doesn't match the connectors for the Yaris. I'm curious as there is very little space above the OEM connectors, so it seems like the ECM would have to be lowered to fit this.

The unit pictured it what is use on the Yaris, TC & xB. The reason that the connector dont match is that this unit is originally designed for the Tacoma. A jumper harness is use to convert from Tacoma plugs to the car it is going to be used on. Also there a some internal mods that are done.

[CTScott]

Originally Posted by cdydjded

The unit pictured it what is use on the Yaris, TC & xB. The reason that the connector dont match is that this unit is originally designed for the Tacoma. A jumper harness is use to convert from Tacoma plugs to the car it is going to be used on. Also there a some internal mods that are done.

OK, but I'd still like to see it mounted to see how it and the cables fit into place.

[cali yaris]

I'm sure pictures will be forthcoming. I believe Dezod JUST got it working on the Yaris they are testing with.

[Dezod]

Originally Posted by Parmas

I am happy that groups like Allan Phillips Racing and Dezod Motorsports are putting interest on our engine but I am still not convinced about the ecu versus price tag.

1.) VVTi Control :- One of the disadvantages I already seeing is that the X-one ecu is not capable of controlling the Variable Cam Timing but it is the stock ecu that handles it. For stock users it's not a big deal but people buying aftermarket ecus are not willing to remain stock. If running a built motor with forced induction the need to control VVTi is essential.


2.) Anti- Lag Launch Control:- Is one of the features that I like on aftermarket ecus and this seems that it hasn't any.

3.) Map Sensor:- Normally this is built into the ecu. Does the X-one ecu has it?

4.) Aux System :- Does this AUX recognizes only sensor inputs? What about output controls ?

5.) Regarding Price with 2K I bought a Haltech Ecu 1000 (Ones that compete with Motec systems) + Haltech external ignitors + Haltech dual channel wideband + Haltech Air/Water Temp calibrated + Shipping.

1) The stock ECU does a decent job of doing VVT on the platform. So, the X1 lets the stock ECU operate that. Tuning VVT is cumbersome for sure. There are gains there, but we sold our Scion tC AEM EMS with the capability of tuning it, and of all of the units sold, I can count on one hand how many people actually took the time to tune it.

2) This unit has 2 step launch control. Fully programmable for your needs. VSS threshold, fixed ign spark and rpm launch point.

3) No MAP sensors. This setup uses MAF, which is much more accurate and makes nice small changes on the fly with respect to temp variation, baro pressure and small VE changes.

4) The aux inputs and outputs can be used a number of different ways. You can get real creative, but most use them for IC sprayers, shift lights and additional sensors like multiple EGT inputs or thermocouples.

5) Having played with MANY different standalones over time, I was not impressed with Haltech at all. I wish you luck with it, and for the record, having played with both systems, that system is nowhere near Motec. Motec is LIGHTYEARS ahead of Haltech. Haltech is like a 5th grader and Motec is like a high school grad.

The unit comes with a complete wiring harness for the application, which makes foe ease of install or un-install.

[Dezod]

Originally Posted by cali yaris

I'm sure pictures will be forthcoming. I believe Dezod JUST got it working on the Yaris they are testing with.

The harnesses for the 2009 Yaris S are insane. I can snap a pic of it as it's the identical wiring to a 2008 xB.

[Parmas]

Originally Posted by Dezod

1) The stock ECU does a decent job of doing VVT on the platform. So, the X1 lets the stock ECU operate that. Tuning VVT is cumbersome for sure. There are gains there, but we sold our Scion tC AEM EMS with the capability of tuning it, and of all of the units sold, I can count on one hand how many people actually took the time to tune it.

2) This unit has 2 step launch control. Fully programmable for your needs. VSS threshold, fixed ign spark and rpm launch point.

3) No MAP sensors. This setup uses MAF, which is much more accurate and makes nice small changes on the fly with respect to temp variation, baro pressure and small VE changes.

4) The aux inputs and outputs can be used a number of different ways. You can get real creative, but most use them for IC sprayers, shift lights and additional sensors like multiple EGT inputs or thermocouples.

5) Having played with MANY different standalones over time, I was not impressed with Haltech at all. I wish you luck with it, and for the record, having played with both systems, that system is nowhere near Motec. Motec is LIGHTYEARS ahead of Haltech. Haltech is like a 5th grader and Motec is like a high school grad.

The unit comes with a complete wiring harness for the application, which makes foe ease of install or un-install.

That's a good reply and sure seems tempting to own one especially for those in progress to build their engines.

Although I hope you are wrong with Haltech since this isn't cheap to obtain. Keep in mind that Haltech has a wide range of ecus from the cheapest E6X to the best Platinum Sprint Series. Mine is the Platinum Sport series which is one of their tops.

If you posted this some weeks ago, I would be thinking of yours anyway.

Keep us updated

[Dezod]

Originally Posted by Parmas

That's a good reply and sure seems tempting to own one especially for those in progress to build their engines.

Although I hope you are wrong with Haltech since this isn't cheap to obtain. Keep in mind that Haltech has a wide range of ecus from the cheapest E6X to the best Platinum Sprint Series. Mine is the Platinum Sport series which is one of their tops.

If you posted this some weeks ago, I would be thinking of yours anyway.

Keep us updated

The Platinum series was quite weak IMO. I was like a watered down AEM EMS.

[CASTREX]

Originally Posted by Dezod

The harnesses for the 2009 Yaris S are insane. I can snap a pic of it as it's the identical wiring to a 2008 xB.

When wll you be trying this on the Scion xD?

This will be important for us Yaris T-Sport owners (our Yaris has the same engine and ECU as the XD)

I checked on the TIS and the connector and pin out are them same between the US Yaris and the 1.8L 2ZR The only difference was one extra cable for the dual VVTI signal. So hopefully you will be able to use the same harness for the Scion xD.

[cdydjded]

Originally Posted by CASTREX

When wll you be trying this on the Scion xD?

This will be important for us Yaris T-Sport owners (our Yaris has the same engine and ECU as the XD)

I checked on the TIS and the connector and pin out are them same between the US Yaris and the 1.8L 2ZR The only difference was one extra cable for the dual VVTI signal. So hopefully you will be able to use the same harness for the Scion xD.

Im sure it will work on the xD. Dezod has it working on the TC, xB2 & now the Yaris. The issue with the xD is that no one is modifying them. So good luck trying to find someone to try it if its not free which is not fair to Dezod.

[Dezod]

Originally Posted by CASTREX

When wll you be trying this on the Scion xD?

This will be important for us Yaris T-Sport owners (our Yaris has the same engine and ECU as the XD)

I checked on the TIS and the connector and pin out are them same between the US Yaris and the 1.8L 2ZR The only difference was one extra cable for the dual VVTI signal. So hopefully you will be able to use the same harness for the Scion xD.

We have had VERY minimal xD modders here. I can count on one hand how many people have called us about modding their xD. So I doubt it will occur unless we get someone gung ho about it and willing to do some R&D with us.

[Yoda]

something that just crossed my mind. where would you go to tune this? are there people in fl that are familiar with the device to get the most out of it.

[The Spectacle]

Does the Yaris share a common ECU with any other Toyota? Very interesting that AEM hasn't released a PnP standalone for it. I personally would not play with any system that requires the stock ECU to function for anything other than rudimentary functions like DBW or gauges

[Dezod]

Originally Posted by Yoda

something that just crossed my mind. where would you go to tune this? are there people in fl that are familiar with the device to get the most out of it.

We can tune it via email or you can take it any tuner and have them learn the software. We wrote a 16 page tuning guide for it and is available for DL on our site.

[Dezod]

Originally Posted by The Spectacle

Does the Yaris share a common ECU with any other Toyota? Very interesting that AEM hasn't released a PnP standalone for it. I personally would not play with any system that requires the stock ECU to function for anything other than rudimentary functions like DBW or gauges

Appears to be the same as the 08 xB2 with the 09 Yaris. AEM has not even released the tC PNP EMS, which they have been speaking about releasing for the past 4 years. So that fact that the yaris does not have one, does not surprise me either.

Lastly, reprogramming the stock ECU with this unit works quite well on the tC and xB2. The tunes are crisp, offer lots of control and work well on all sides of tuning N/A or FI. I was a disbeliever too until I played with it.

[fnkngrv]

curious...have you done any applications for the 2zz?