best way to spend $3k - Toyota Yaris Forums

ronnyromero · 12-24-2006, 01:04 PM

hi, i'm not that expert with yaris/vitz, but i'm getting one in 2 months (2007 manual, sedan) and i'd like to know what would be the best way to spend $3,000US on it. I've heard it can go up to 150hp pretty easy. I'm not going for any major engine changes but maybe some parts replacements for aftermarket lighter ones, intake, exhaust, engine mounts, anything that can do a change but wont harm the engine...you tell me. Forget about labor, i can get anything done almost for free (dont ask), it's the parts prices and needs i'm interested.

I already had a sunfire with something around 5k in parts (i crashed and sold it) and i currently have an AWD 98 eclipse with 12k in parts (this is my baby).

This yaris will be a daydriver and mostly used for job, and since gas is getting expensive i want to keep the engine intact, but anything else that can help would be appreciated.

03Z33 · 12-24-2006, 01:23 PM

You could start with one of the "performance packages" from Bulletproof:

http://www.bulletproofautomotive.com...il.php?ID=5596

This will get you intake filter, springs, exhaust, upper and lower braces and the BIBLE

all for $790!

Then you'll still have $2200 left over for a steering wheel, shift knob, and some wheels and tires

acrbill · 12-24-2006, 01:23 PM

150 sure won't be easy. At risk of sounding like a total prick I am going to recommend you buy a different car if your interested in more straight line speed.

Katana · 12-24-2006, 01:44 PM

From my experience with your engine, forget 150 N/A hp with only 3k.Better spend them on a turbo.

Tamago · 12-24-2006, 03:55 PM

supercharge.

end of story

KSIbucky · 12-24-2006, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tamago

supercharge.

end of story

ya you probably could get some one to put it in too

dngz · 12-24-2006, 04:30 PM

Where did you hear it was gonna be easy to get the yaris to 150HP pretty easy?? I've already got a short ram air intake, headers, full cat back exhaust, and i dont think my car is near 150 hp at all =\... keep in mind that the whp of the car is in the 70-80 whp range.. id be happy to get 100 whp with only NA products

Katana · 12-24-2006, 04:44 PM

Well said...

DTM_Yaris · 12-24-2006, 10:24 PM

Turbo kit will yield great results. You are in the right price range.

graywolf_14 · 12-25-2006, 02:05 AM

Well the stock motor has 106hp at flywheel so that would be what 91hp at wheels? So with header,exhuast,cai you could easly get 100hp at wheels if not 110. Course that is if the whp is 15% less than the flywheel hp like I am told.

eTiMaGo · 12-25-2006, 02:31 AM

OK here's what you do... I'll PM you my paypal account, transfer all the money there, and I will send you a dyno sheet showing your Yaris doing 200whp

deal?

But seriously, you'd have to go for forced indiction, this engine is already tuned pretty much to the max in stock form.

Katana · 12-25-2006, 11:24 AM

The japanese version of your engine, give out 120hp N/A fully tuned, so don't expect hp without turbo/supercharger!

dngz · 12-25-2006, 12:09 PM

Heres the dyno chart from WeaponR, stock vs inake. look what the stock whp and torque is..

03Z33 · 12-25-2006, 12:19 PM

According to that chart the stock car did 91lb/ft and 84whp which isn't bad at all... keep in mind that these numbers are SAE corrected and this is a dynopack dyno (crap

)

It's also interesting to note that the car with the intake only made 2lb/ft and 3whp peak gains. The area of the chart that WR highlight are where the differences are greatest, but are not where peak power is made.

ChinoCharles · 12-25-2006, 12:21 PM

Lets assume the best case scenario, that he was saying 150 at the flywheel. That would be 127 to the wheels, or a 50 HP increase. With 3 grand? Hmm.

I'll reserve final judgement until I see the dyno sheet, but as an example I had before expected 4 WHP from the Megan header. After putting it on and playing with it a bit, I've pretty much doubled my expectations. I think some of the stock hardware on the Yaris is so restrictive its ridiculous, and when you go to modify the basic intake/exhaust portion of the car, you see larger gains both because of the smart design of the new piece and the stupid design of the old.

This would explain why dngz saw 11 HP from a Weapon R product, and why I feel such a huge difference with just a header installed.

Knowing that, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if you got 20 WHP from an intake and a full exhaust. That leaves 30 HP to go, and you haven't even touched that 3 grand. Some internals and a remap and you're there. You may even have some money left over to play with.

Tamago · 12-25-2006, 01:05 PM

yes but you'll spend a grand on header, catback and intake..

$2000 for "ingternals" ? that dont even exist yet? i am not saying it's impossible but you're looking for a grand for a good head job, and at least that for custom pistons (rods already on their way) .. then count your labor for engine rebuild..

and lmfao 20HP from a intake and exhaust? you're on drugs dude, 20hp is more like a big V8 number..

ChinoCharles · 12-25-2006, 02:26 PM

First of all, a grand on an intake and an exhaust in PANAMA?! C'mon man. I'd suppose you could get both for $800 in socal! It ain't like here in the midwest. We get raped.

Second of all, there are no engine internals for the 1NZ-FE? That is suspicious. Wonder what these are.

http://www.zeropointindustries.net/s...products_id=76

Third of all, I am NOT on drugs. Which sucks.

You can laugh all you want at that 20 HP number, and even I will admit it sounds so optimistic its silly, but I'm telling you dude... that stock header I pulled off was so lame its incredible. Bottom line is we could sit here and argue all day about who is right and who isn't, but the dyno doesn't lie and I'll be down there soon to find out what that header gave me. All I know is that WR dyno sheet seems to be the real deal, and 11 WHP on an intake sounds stupid, but maybe the stock parts are just that shitty. You're telling me if dngz puts a header-back exhaust on he won't see 9 fucking WHP? Have you seen the stock axle back?!

spkrman · 12-25-2006, 02:36 PM

getting to 100hp is "easy".

getting to 150hp n/a... you better be prepared for some serious rebuilding :)

and yes, internals can be had! there are alot of these motors around, its inevitable that someone will want to make power with one, and its inevitable that someone will want to make $ selling that guy some parts!

demand it and supply will follow :)

12-24-2006, 01:04 PM	#1
ronnyromero I've made a post! Drives: yaris sedan Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: panama, panama Posts: 1	best way to spend $3k hi, i'm not that expert with yaris/vitz, but i'm getting one in 2 months (2007 manual, sedan) and i'd like to know what would be the best way to spend $3,000US on it. I've heard it can go up to 150hp pretty easy. I'm not going for any major engine changes but maybe some parts replacements for aftermarket lighter ones, intake, exhaust, engine mounts, anything that can do a change but wont harm the engine...you tell me. Forget about labor, i can get anything done almost for free (dont ask), it's the parts prices and needs i'm interested. I already had a sunfire with something around 5k in parts (i crashed and sold it) and i currently have an AWD 98 eclipse with 12k in parts (this is my baby). This yaris will be a daydriver and mostly used for job, and since gas is getting expensive i want to keep the engine intact, but anything else that can help would be appreciated. Last edited by ronnyromero; 12-24-2006 at 01:11 PM. Reason: forgot something

12-24-2006, 01:23 PM	#3
acrbill Drives: Polar White Hatch Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: chicago Posts: 407	150 sure won't be easy. At risk of sounding like a total prick I am going to recommend you buy a different car if your interested in more straight line speed. __________________ ChinoCharles Intake supporter.

12-24-2006, 01:44 PM	#4
Katana Drives: Yaris LB 1.3lt 06 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Under the hood! Posts: 1,124	From my experience with your engine, forget 150 N/A hp with only 3k.Better spend them on a turbo. __________________ It's not the ride, it's the rider!

12-24-2006, 04:44 PM	#8
Katana Drives: Yaris LB 1.3lt 06 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Under the hood! Posts: 1,124	Well said... __________________ It's not the ride, it's the rider!

12-25-2006, 02:05 AM	#10
graywolf_14 View User's Garage Drives: um not a yaris but hopefully Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Wichita ks Posts: 207	I think Well the stock motor has 106hp at flywheel so that would be what 91hp at wheels? So with header,exhuast,cai you could easly get 100hp at wheels if not 110. Course that is if the whp is 15% less than the flywheel hp like I am told.

12-24-2006, 01:23 PM	#2
03Z33 View User's Garage Drives: TCR10 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,132	You could start with one of the "performance packages" from Bulletproof: http://www.bulletproofautomotive.com...il.php?ID=5596 This will get you intake filter, springs, exhaust, upper and lower braces and the BIBLE all for $790! Then you'll still have $2200 left over for a steering wheel, shift knob, and some wheels and tires

12-24-2006, 03:55 PM	#5
Tamago Start another Oil Thread! View User's Garage Drives: ZZW30 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: South FL Posts: 4,890	supercharge. end of story

12-24-2006, 04:30 PM	#7
dngz View User's Garage Drives: black yaris sedan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: vancouver Posts: 475	Where did you hear it was gonna be easy to get the yaris to 150HP pretty easy?? I've already got a short ram air intake, headers, full cat back exhaust, and i dont think my car is near 150 hp at all =\... keep in mind that the whp of the car is in the 70-80 whp range.. id be happy to get 100 whp with only NA products

12-24-2006, 10:24 PM	#9
DTM_Yaris Turbo Yaris Drives: 07 PW Yaris Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Dulles, VA Posts: 82	Turbo kit will yield great results. You are in the right price range.

12-25-2006, 02:31 AM	#11
eTiMaGo vroom vroom View User's Garage Drives: lil red 5-door Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 7,744	OK here's what you do... I'll PM you my paypal account, transfer all the money there, and I will send you a dyno sheet showing your Yaris doing 200whp deal? But seriously, you'd have to go for forced indiction, this engine is already tuned pretty much to the max in stock form. __________________ The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish. - Robert Jackson Bye bye 1NZ...

12-25-2006, 11:24 AM	#12
Katana Drives: Yaris LB 1.3lt 06 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Under the hood! Posts: 1,124	The japanese version of your engine, give out 120hp N/A fully tuned, so don't expect hp without turbo/supercharger! __________________ It's not the ride, it's the rider!

12-25-2006, 12:09 PM	#13
dngz View User's Garage Drives: black yaris sedan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: vancouver Posts: 475	Heres the dyno chart from WeaponR, stock vs inake. look what the stock whp and torque is..

12-25-2006, 12:19 PM	#14
03Z33 View User's Garage Drives: TCR10 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,132	According to that chart the stock car did 91lb/ft and 84whp which isn't bad at all... keep in mind that these numbers are SAE corrected and this is a dynopack dyno (crap ) It's also interesting to note that the car with the intake only made 2lb/ft and 3whp peak gains. The area of the chart that WR highlight are where the differences are greatest, but are not where peak power is made.

12-25-2006, 12:21 PM	#15
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	Lets assume the best case scenario, that he was saying 150 at the flywheel. That would be 127 to the wheels, or a 50 HP increase. With 3 grand? Hmm. I'll reserve final judgement until I see the dyno sheet, but as an example I had before expected 4 WHP from the Megan header. After putting it on and playing with it a bit, I've pretty much doubled my expectations. I think some of the stock hardware on the Yaris is so restrictive its ridiculous, and when you go to modify the basic intake/exhaust portion of the car, you see larger gains both because of the smart design of the new piece and the stupid design of the old. This would explain why dngz saw 11 HP from a Weapon R product, and why I feel such a huge difference with just a header installed. Knowing that, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if you got 20 WHP from an intake and a full exhaust. That leaves 30 HP to go, and you haven't even touched that 3 grand. Some internals and a remap and you're there. You may even have some money left over to play with.

12-25-2006, 01:05 PM	#16
Tamago Start another Oil Thread! View User's Garage Drives: ZZW30 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: South FL Posts: 4,890	yes but you'll spend a grand on header, catback and intake.. $2000 for "ingternals" ? that dont even exist yet? i am not saying it's impossible but you're looking for a grand for a good head job, and at least that for custom pistons (rods already on their way) .. then count your labor for engine rebuild.. and lmfao 20HP from a intake and exhaust? you're on drugs dude, 20hp is more like a big V8 number..

12-25-2006, 02:26 PM	#17
ChinoCharles Banned Drives: LB Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: OH Posts: 7,787	First of all, a grand on an intake and an exhaust in PANAMA?! C'mon man. I'd suppose you could get both for $800 in socal! It ain't like here in the midwest. We get raped. Second of all, there are no engine internals for the 1NZ-FE? That is suspicious. Wonder what these are. http://www.zeropointindustries.net/s...products_id=76 Third of all, I am NOT on drugs. Which sucks. You can laugh all you want at that 20 HP number, and even I will admit it sounds so optimistic its silly, but I'm telling you dude... that stock header I pulled off was so lame its incredible. Bottom line is we could sit here and argue all day about who is right and who isn't, but the dyno doesn't lie and I'll be down there soon to find out what that header gave me. All I know is that WR dyno sheet seems to be the real deal, and 11 WHP on an intake sounds stupid, but maybe the stock parts are just that shitty. You're telling me if dngz puts a header-back exhaust on he won't see 9 fucking WHP? Have you seen the stock axle back?! Last edited by ChinoCharles; 12-25-2006 at 02:38 PM.

12-25-2006, 02:36 PM	#18
spkrman Banned View User's Garage Drives: 1 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: 2 Posts: 1,476	getting to 100hp is "easy". getting to 150hp n/a... you better be prepared for some serious rebuilding :) and yes, internals can be had! there are alot of these motors around, its inevitable that someone will want to make power with one, and its inevitable that someone will want to make $ selling that guy some parts! demand it and supply will follow :)