Need everyones opinions on Spring/Shocks combo's please - Page 3 - Toyota Yaris Forums

largeorangefont · 05-28-2009, 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lafiro

He probably meant $500us, and $3000NZ.
Anyway.

So, no one can explain to me how bumps feel on the car with the TRD shocks with TRD springs, versus the TRD spring with lets say Tokico shocks?

Just want to know how bad the bumps feel inside the car from a rating of 1(soft/dont feel them) to 10(sucks/car rattling)

They are both nearly the same.

I have rode in cars with both dampers back to back. I have Tokicos.

Under most conditions, the stiffer dampers make the car feel and ride better. It will wallows and sways less over bumps in the road. It is more harsh over sudden bumps at speed like potholes or dips.

I would say it is a 10-15% difference in stiffness from a "feel" perspective.

Sparks Toyota-TRD · 05-28-2009, 08:37 AM

The TRD Springs have a progressive spring rate. TRD wants to make sure you have the best quality with there name on it.

Tim

regal · 05-28-2009, 08:48 AM

best combo is TRD springs with Tokico shocks

scape · 05-28-2009, 03:47 PM

what kind of maintenance is there with TRD shocks/springs? I understand coilover's have to be maintained some

Lafiro · 05-29-2009, 11:22 AM

I don't think you have to maintain anything. Shocks do eventually die though.

Im REALLY surprised at how many people are saying to go with the Tokico Blues...

Is this because everyone just wants to save $100, or wants me to save $100? I really wish I knew the real reason, and not just because of the $100 price difference you know.

regal · 05-29-2009, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lafiro

I don't think you have to maintain anything. Shocks do eventually die though.

Im REALLY surprised at how many people are saying to go with the Tokico Blues...

Is this because everyone just wants to save $100, or wants me to save $100? I really wish I knew the real reason, and not just because of the $100 price difference you know.

Honestly I was leary too but there were so many good reviews on the Tokicos that I went with themm, they are much firmer and all round better than the stock junk shocks. I wouldn't even put the stock shock on a pickup, they are bouncy junk. You mentioned maintenance with coil overs, TRD springs + Tokico shocks are not coild overs. As long as you install them right)get them seated in correctly you have no maintenance as these are not coilovers, just springs/shocks that the factory should have suppplied. They reason they didn't is that the general buying public wants easy soft bouncy rides, I guess they like to get sea sick. I am very suseptable to car sickness and it totally went away with the TRD/Tokico combo. Get a rear sway bar while you're at it, you will want one and no sense in taking apart the rear shocks twice,

cali yaris · 05-29-2009, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Im REALLY surprised at how many people are saying to go with the Tokico Blues...

Is this because everyone just wants to save $100, or wants me to save $100? I really wish I knew the real reason, and not just because of the $100 price difference you know.

Because they are the SAME or BETTER than the TRD shocks. If you want to pay $100 more for the name, you can make that choice, but that's what it is, in my opinion -- coming from someone who has installed BOTH on his own car.

Sparks Toyota-TRD · 05-29-2009, 11:47 AM

The $100 is also a difference of whether or not you want to keep a warranty on your car. Tokico's will void the warranty and TRD's will not woid the warranty. It is completely up to you. Thanks!

Tim

Lafiro · 05-29-2009, 01:08 PM

So wait, installing non TRD struts/shocks will void what warranty?

The entire car, or just suspension(which nothing will happen too anyway) ???

Sparks Toyota-TRD · 05-29-2009, 01:10 PM

It will void the suspension warranty on your car.

With TRD springs and shocks, if anything ever goes wrong with it then your dealership has to cover it under warranty.

Tim

detroiter · 05-29-2009, 02:33 PM

That's why you keep your stock springs and shocks so incase you need them. Then again, unless you really goofed up on the new springs/shocks you put on, suspension failures are next to zero.

scape · 05-29-2009, 03:48 PM

I meant coilovers in general have a tad of maintenance it seems, but good to know TRD shocks/springs are mostly maintenance free.
are tokico's not progressive? that would certainly make the ride seem firmer.

scape · 05-29-2009, 03:50 PM

@ Sparks: i'm going to be living up in beaufort sc for the next few months, do you have a shop for trd install? or are you just a reseller? i'd rather not hit up the dealer for something like that, and the garages around beaufort are 'hodunk' to say the least, haha

Sparks Toyota-TRD · 05-30-2009, 10:37 AM

We are a Toyota dealership, but sometimes we can get you a great deal. You let me know what you need and I will see what kind of price I can get for you. Thanks!

Tim

Lafiro · 05-30-2009, 12:02 PM

Yeah, thats right, what are Tokico shocks, progressive, or not?
Thanks everyone for the input.

Jeemee · 05-30-2009, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lafiro

Yeah, thats right, what are Tokico shocks, progressive, or not?
Thanks everyone for the input.

He was talking about the TRD springs. They, like all other aftermarket replacement springs, are progressive. I'm pretty sure shocks have a set valving, some are adjustable though. TRD shocks are not adjustable, nor are Tokico blues.

Crossbow · 06-02-2009, 08:58 AM

Not using TRD shocks voids your suspension warranty? LOL. What's left after you replace the shocks and springs? A few bushings?

If the car is in alignment specs, and the suspension geometry is unchanged from the TRD/TRD combo vs another aftermarket combination, and toyota tries to void your warranty on some bushings, take them to court for violating the federal mag-moss act.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson-Moss_Warranty_Act

Remember to always know your rights. It is up to the manufacturer to PROVE a replacement part caused a particular failure, and generally that will only effect the replacement of that particular part (If it is shown that the replacement part caused it), NOT all the related parts.

Of course if you install some odd combination of parts, your suspension geometry changes vs the TRD/TRD combo, and your alignment is completely out of spec...and you tear a bushing...then sure, don't expect that to be covered.

But the whole..."Don't do that or your warranty will be voided!" is a dealer scare tactic.

Sparks Toyota-TRD · 06-02-2009, 09:08 AM

Do you know that you can edit and delete on WikiPedia?

Here is the act on our website for you all:

http://www.trdsparks.com/warrant_aft..._products.html

There actually is a lot left on the suspension after you replace springs and shocks that can go wrong.

The dealership yes has to prove that what you did is the reason it went wrong. It is a long process, but most dealers will try their best to find the problem. If you need any info on the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act please click the link in this post.

Thanks!

Tim

05-28-2009, 08:37 AM	#38
Sparks Toyota-TRD Drives: Toyota/Scion Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 156	The TRD Springs have a progressive spring rate. TRD wants to make sure you have the best quality with there name on it. Tim

05-28-2009, 08:48 AM	#39
regal Drives: 09 Yaris 3 Dr White LB Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: PA Posts: 432	best combo is TRD springs with Tokico shocks

05-28-2009, 03:47 PM	#40
scape View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Hatchback Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Beaufort, South Carolina Posts: 388	what kind of maintenance is there with TRD shocks/springs? I understand coilover's have to be maintained some

05-29-2009, 11:22 AM	#41
Lafiro Drives: 06 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 694	I don't think you have to maintain anything. Shocks do eventually die though. Im REALLY surprised at how many people are saying to go with the Tokico Blues... Is this because everyone just wants to save $100, or wants me to save $100? I really wish I knew the real reason, and not just because of the $100 price difference you know.

05-29-2009, 11:47 AM	#44
Sparks Toyota-TRD Drives: Toyota/Scion Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 156	The $100 is also a difference of whether or not you want to keep a warranty on your car. Tokico's will void the warranty and TRD's will not woid the warranty. It is completely up to you. Thanks! Tim

05-29-2009, 01:08 PM	#45
Lafiro Drives: 06 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 694	So wait, installing non TRD struts/shocks will void what warranty? The entire car, or just suspension(which nothing will happen too anyway) ???

05-29-2009, 01:10 PM	#46
Sparks Toyota-TRD Drives: Toyota/Scion Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 156	It will void the suspension warranty on your car. With TRD springs and shocks, if anything ever goes wrong with it then your dealership has to cover it under warranty. Tim

05-29-2009, 02:33 PM	#47
detroiter Drives: 2008 Polar White LB Auto Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 1,238	That's why you keep your stock springs and shocks so incase you need them. Then again, unless you really goofed up on the new springs/shocks you put on, suspension failures are next to zero.

05-29-2009, 03:48 PM	#48
scape View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Hatchback Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Beaufort, South Carolina Posts: 388	I meant coilovers in general have a tad of maintenance it seems, but good to know TRD shocks/springs are mostly maintenance free. are tokico's not progressive? that would certainly make the ride seem firmer.

05-29-2009, 03:50 PM	#49
scape View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Hatchback Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Beaufort, South Carolina Posts: 388	@ Sparks: i'm going to be living up in beaufort sc for the next few months, do you have a shop for trd install? or are you just a reseller? i'd rather not hit up the dealer for something like that, and the garages around beaufort are 'hodunk' to say the least, haha

05-30-2009, 10:37 AM	#50
Sparks Toyota-TRD Drives: Toyota/Scion Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 156	We are a Toyota dealership, but sometimes we can get you a great deal. You let me know what you need and I will see what kind of price I can get for you. Thanks! Tim

05-30-2009, 12:02 PM	#51
Lafiro Drives: 06 Yaris Sedan Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: NYC Posts: 694	Yeah, thats right, what are Tokico shocks, progressive, or not? Thanks everyone for the input.

06-02-2009, 08:58 AM	#53
Crossbow Drives: 2008.5 Speed3, 2007 Yaris Lift Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Maryland Posts: 6	Not using TRD shocks voids your suspension warranty? LOL. What's left after you replace the shocks and springs? A few bushings? If the car is in alignment specs, and the suspension geometry is unchanged from the TRD/TRD combo vs another aftermarket combination, and toyota tries to void your warranty on some bushings, take them to court for violating the federal mag-moss act. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson-Moss_Warranty_Act Remember to always know your rights. It is up to the manufacturer to PROVE a replacement part caused a particular failure, and generally that will only effect the replacement of that particular part (If it is shown that the replacement part caused it), NOT all the related parts. Of course if you install some odd combination of parts, your suspension geometry changes vs the TRD/TRD combo, and your alignment is completely out of spec...and you tear a bushing...then sure, don't expect that to be covered. But the whole..."Don't do that or your warranty will be voided!" is a dealer scare tactic.

06-02-2009, 09:08 AM	#54
Sparks Toyota-TRD Drives: Toyota/Scion Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 156	Do you know that you can edit and delete on WikiPedia? Here is the act on our website for you all: http://www.trdsparks.com/warrant_aft..._products.html There actually is a lot left on the suspension after you replace springs and shocks that can go wrong. The dealership yes has to prove that what you did is the reason it went wrong. It is a long process, but most dealers will try their best to find the problem. If you need any info on the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act please click the link in this post. Thanks! Tim