DC Sports 4-1 Header vs. DC Sports 4-2-1 header - Toyota Yaris Forums

YenOfIrrelevent · 05-31-2010, 06:07 PM

Hello I am trying to decide which header I should get. So far I know DC sports is very reliable but I see these different types of headers and I do not know which is best.

The choices are:

DC Sports 4-1 header (Ceramic or Stainless steel)

DC Sports 4-2-1 header (ceramic)

what is the difference in performance? Also does it matter if its ceramic or stainless steel?

I hope someone can help me out on this one... Thanks

Thirty-Nine · 05-31-2010, 07:10 PM

According to DC Sports' Web site, they only offer a 4-1 header for the Yaris.

Bluevitz-rs · 06-02-2010, 10:26 AM

OBX makes a 4-2-1 for the Echo/xA/xB, but don't know if they made one for the Yaris.

severous01 · 06-02-2010, 11:04 AM

stainless is always good, and i think it's better than ceramic cuz it wont chip crack or peel.

other than that they're all the same

one thing, the 4-2-1 may add a little more torque but you'll lose high end HP, and vise-versa for the 4-1

darkMINI · 08-09-2010, 12:17 AM

Has anyone installed a DC header? Is it something I can do in the driveway on jack stands, or does it have to be done by a professional? Do you have to modify the stock exhaust system?

Brian · 08-09-2010, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkMINI

Has anyone installed a DC header? Is it something I can do in the driveway on jack stands, or does it have to be done by a professional? Do you have to modify the stock exhaust system?

You can do it in your driveway. Jack stands or ramps are recommended. It took me about an hour do install mine. It's a direct bolt-on so no modifications are required. I suggest some new gaskets while your at it.

cali yaris · 08-09-2010, 01:22 AM

+1 direct bolt-on.

Some of the bolts are a little tough to reach, but otherwise, it's not that difficult.

In stock, too.

kou · 08-09-2010, 01:33 AM

weapon r header 4-2-1 stainless steel.

darkMINI · 08-09-2010, 07:22 PM

I've heard that 4-2-1 is better for mid-range as well. Hows that Megan racing header?

cali yaris · 08-09-2010, 09:18 PM

I used the Megan on my car before boosting it, was totally happy with it.

darkMINI · 08-10-2010, 12:10 AM

Thanks Cali, trying to keep cost down so's I can do a CAI, high flow cat, and muffler at the same time. Reaching for 100 HP.

allyart · 05-09-2012, 06:09 AM

from what i know is that the 4-1 will give more power on the low rpm (easier acceleration) where the 4-2-1 will give more on high rpm (easier top speed)

-cmiiw-

cali yaris · 05-09-2012, 09:38 AM

OLD thread!

DC Sports: 4-1 only
Megan: 4-1
Weapon R: 4-2-1

On the Yaris motor it honestly makes very little difference. A header in general wakes the car up a little, and sounds great. But we are talking about a very short tube header with this. If it were a long tube design, it would both make more power and benefit more from a 4-2-1 design.

thebarber · 05-09-2012, 09:39 AM

Installation of the header in your driveway is more complicated if you live somewheres where they salt the roads in winter. The 14mm bolt that holds the header to the midpipe was rusted down to just bigger than a 13mm.....had to use vice grips to get it off....but I still did it in the driveway

cali yaris · 05-09-2012, 09:40 AM

^ That's nasty, I give props to you guys in that climate. I'm spoiled in SoCal, I know.

05-31-2010, 06:07 PM	#1
YenOfIrrelevent GreenRanger Drives: 08 Yaris sedan Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Phoenix, Arizona Posts: 37	DC Sports 4-1 Header vs. DC Sports 4-2-1 header Hello I am trying to decide which header I should get. So far I know DC sports is very reliable but I see these different types of headers and I do not know which is best. The choices are: DC Sports 4-1 header (Ceramic or Stainless steel) DC Sports 4-2-1 header (ceramic) what is the difference in performance? Also does it matter if its ceramic or stainless steel? I hope someone can help me out on this one... Thanks

05-31-2010, 07:10 PM	#2
Thirty-Nine Small cars are a big deal View User's Garage Drives: 2007 Yaris Liftback Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Portland, OR Posts: 3,144	According to DC Sports' Web site, they only offer a 4-1 header for the Yaris. __________________ Subcompact Culture: The Small car blog

08-09-2010, 12:17 AM	#5
darkMINI View User's Garage Drives: 08 hatch Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: C-Springs Posts: 101	Has anyone installed a DC header? Is it something I can do in the driveway on jack stands, or does it have to be done by a professional? Do you have to modify the stock exhaust system? __________________ '08 3dr HB, Black Sand, AEM, 16x6.6 Mini-Cooper wheels, DynoMax, Cruise, de-TPMS'ed.

08-09-2010, 01:22 AM	#7
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	+1 direct bolt-on. Some of the bolts are a little tough to reach, but otherwise, it's not that difficult. In stock, too. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

08-09-2010, 07:22 PM	#9
darkMINI View User's Garage Drives: 08 hatch Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: C-Springs Posts: 101	I've heard that 4-2-1 is better for mid-range as well. Hows that Megan racing header? __________________ '08 3dr HB, Black Sand, AEM, 16x6.6 Mini-Cooper wheels, DynoMax, Cruise, de-TPMS'ed. Last edited by darkMINI; 08-09-2010 at 07:34 PM.

06-02-2010, 10:26 AM	#3
Bluevitz-rs 1NZ-6spd View User's Garage Drives: '05 6-Spd Vitz RS Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oshawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,967	OBX makes a 4-2-1 for the Echo/xA/xB, but don't know if they made one for the Yaris.

06-02-2010, 11:04 AM	#4
severous01 Drives: 2008 yaris, stripped, red Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: SE Texas Posts: 977	stainless is always good, and i think it's better than ceramic cuz it wont chip crack or peel. other than that they're all the same one thing, the 4-2-1 may add a little more torque but you'll lose high end HP, and vise-versa for the 4-1

08-09-2010, 01:33 AM	#8
kou View User's Garage Drives: 08 lb Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: nj Posts: 935	weapon r header 4-2-1 stainless steel.

08-09-2010, 09:18 PM	#10
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	I used the Megan on my car before boosting it, was totally happy with it. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

08-10-2010, 12:10 AM	#11
darkMINI View User's Garage Drives: 08 hatch Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: C-Springs Posts: 101	Thanks Cali, trying to keep cost down so's I can do a CAI, high flow cat, and muffler at the same time. Reaching for 100 HP. __________________ '08 3dr HB, Black Sand, AEM, 16x6.6 Mini-Cooper wheels, DynoMax, Cruise, de-TPMS'ed.

05-09-2012, 06:09 AM	#12
allyart View User's Garage Drives: Yaris Hatchback E A/T 2011 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Jakarta, Indonesia Posts: 30	from what i know is that the 4-1 will give more power on the low rpm (easier acceleration) where the 4-2-1 will give more on high rpm (easier top speed) -cmiiw- __________________

05-09-2012, 09:38 AM	#13
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	OLD thread! DC Sports: 4-1 only Megan: 4-1 Weapon R: 4-2-1 On the Yaris motor it honestly makes very little difference. A header in general wakes the car up a little, and sounds great. But we are talking about a very short tube header with this. If it were a long tube design, it would both make more power and benefit more from a 4-2-1 design. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

05-09-2012, 09:39 AM	#14
thebarber daily driver View User's Garage Drives: the #wrecho Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 5,877	Installation of the header in your driveway is more complicated if you live somewheres where they salt the roads in winter. The 14mm bolt that holds the header to the midpipe was rusted down to just bigger than a 13mm.....had to use vice grips to get it off....but I still did it in the driveway __________________

05-09-2012, 09:40 AM	#15
cali yaris ULTIMATE View User's Garage Drives: 07 Yaris Turbo Join Date: May 2007 Location: Canoga Park, CA Posts: 14,859	^ That's nasty, I give props to you guys in that climate. I'm spoiled in SoCal, I know. __________________ Micro Image forums, online store and shop are now closed. It was a great eight year run, but it was time to focus on other things. I'm still selling parts on eBay under micro*image seller ID and customers can still make requests for anything specific.

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