need 17inch rim guidence

[chino_potato]

Will 205/45/17 tires on 17 x 7 inch rims with a 38mm cause any suspension problems with the stock lowering springs? (eg. rubbing, hitting the inner fender liner, ect. I've gotten mixed answers so could someone with the knowledge please school me on this.

Thanx

[chino_potato]

"38mm", i mean 38mm offset

[why?]

It might be a tad tight in the front.

[YarisHatch]

You should be fine, your chances of rubbing the inner fender wall would probably fairly high with u-turns and really bad bumps. But 17x7's with 38offset should work fine.

Unless your going for show, i'd recommend 15's or 16's with sticky tires. But if your going for looks, then yeah. The yaris should be able to hold up to _ _x7.5/8 before concerns really start kicking in. But nothing shims, spacers, or camber can't fix.

[chino_potato]

I'm putting on 17 because I got a set kickin around.

So with wheel spacers I should be OK all around?
What size wheel spacers should I use??

My main concern is if I have a packed car and the wheels
start rubbing in the front or the back.

[YarisHatch]

Originally Posted by chino_potato

I'm putting on 17 because I got a set kickin around.

So with wheel spacers I should be OK all around?
What size wheel spacers should I use??

My main concern is if I have a packed car and the wheels
start rubbing in the front or the back.

You may not need them, you need to first put the wheels on, and see what happens. If they rub, take them off and invest in some spacers. But no sense in buying spacers if you don't need them. I'm pretty sure you will be safe, i know on the xb/xa you'd have no problem. And the clearance appears to be pretty close to the xb/xa.

[Black Yaris]

Originally Posted by chino_potato

I'm putting on 17 because I got a set kickin around.

So with wheel spacers I should be OK all around?
What size wheel spacers should I use??

My main concern is if I have a packed car and the wheels
start rubbing in the front or the back.

NO SPACERS ARE NEEDED
if you are running a 7 inch wide wheel a +38 off set is what you need... you said you are running a 205 something or other tire?... it is going to be a tad to small but it will be a mile away from rubbing.... I would go with the 215/40R17 get you with the correct rolling diameter, with no rubbing problems... I am running 15X7's with a +38 and I have 225/50R15 no rubbing problems so you will be fine, no spacers and you can have all the fat ppl you want in the back with no problems, I have loaded my yaris down a few times and I am running a MUCH wider setup no problems at all

[why?]

The only problem that might happen is the on the front wheels rubbing on turns and such. The rears should fit fine.

And if it does rub then you'll prolly only need to kick them out 5mm.

[SophieSleeps]

I thought the Yaris was a high offset car?
Why would you ever use spacers?

[why?]

The stock wheels are +40mm. The 17's I believe are +50.

You use spacers so you can fit wheels on it that otherwise don't have enough offset to fit.

[SophieSleeps]

Originally Posted by why?

The stock wheels are +40mm. The 17's I believe are +50.

You use spacers so you can fit wheels on it that otherwise don't have enough offset to fit.

If you have a 17" wheel that is a +50 offset, and you use a 17" +38 offset, using a spacer would push you in the wrong direction.

The lower the offset, the further the wheel sticks out from the car.
Using a spacer pushes it even further. It's then less likely to fit.

[why?]

Originally Posted by SophieSleeps

If you have a 17" wheel that is a +50 offset, and you use a 17" +38 offset, using a spacer would push you in the wrong direction.

The lower the offset, the further the wheel sticks out from the car.
Using a spacer pushes it even further. It's then less likely to fit.

Offset isn't about how far the wheel sticks out from the car.

It is about how far the hub mounting surface is from the centerline of the wheel.

A +38 wheel's hub is closer to the brakes than a +50 offset is.

This means that their is less space between the hub mounting surface and the brakes on a wheel with a +38 offset then their is on a wheel with a +50 offset.

That is the problem here. There might not be enough space for the brakes to fit inside the wheel.

A spacer would push the wheel out 5 mm, which should give the brakes enough space to fit inside the wheel.

Hopefully though everything will fit inside the wheel so there is no need for a spacer.

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/...jsp?techid=101

[SophieSleeps]

Originally Posted by why?

Offset isn't about how far the wheel sticks out from the car.

It is about how far the hub mounting surface is from the centerline of the wheel.

A +38 wheel's hub is closer to the brakes than a +50 offset is.

This means that their is less space between the hub mounting surface and the brakes on a wheel with a +38 offset then their is on a wheel with a +50 offset.

That is the problem here. There might not be enough space for the brakes to fit inside the wheel.

A spacer would push the wheel out 5 mm, which should give the brakes enough space to fit inside the wheel.

Hopefully though everything will fit inside the wheel so there is no need for a spacer.

http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/tech/...jsp?techid=101

You have it backwards. I think you should re-read that tech page.

a 17x7 with a 50 offset tucks further in than a 17x7 with a 30 offset. 20mm to be exact.

I know that offset does not mean how much the wheel sticks out.
But it directly affects it.


Offset has nothing to do with brake fitment. It is spoke design. However, if your spoke design does not allow it to clear, a spacer would push the face of the wheel further away from the brake. This also effectively changes offset.

The size of the hub does not change with offset. So the distance away from the brake caliper does not change.

This is why manufacturers like Rays produce wheels with different Face's (same design) in order to facilitate different brakes. They change hub thicknesses to accomodate this.

[PetersRedYaris]

Originally Posted by SophieSleeps

The lower the offset, the further the wheel sticks out from the car.

No, that is incorrect. You have it backwards. The lower the offset the further the wheel will be pushed outward.

[PetersRedYaris]

OMG, so sorry, I'm tired. You have it correct and I just repeated what you said.

[Sp33dY]

If you have the wheels kickin around already ... PUT THEM ON AND TEST FIT! Easiest way to find out!

[chino_potato]

Originally Posted by Sp33dY

If you have the wheels kickin around already ... PUT THEM ON AND TEST FIT! Easiest way to find out!

Don't have the car yet. Will be getting it in a few days, or so the dealer said.

[Sp33dY]

SophieSleeps is correct on this one .

Generally the less dish the wheel has, the higher the offset. POSITIVE OFFSET!


The more dish it is, the lesser the wheel offset. NEGATIVE OFFSET!




Oooh.. and ... Spacers are the work of the devil. Get wheels that fit properly. Ive seen wheel nuts break with spacers, and in a lot of countries they are illegal, unless they are welded to the wheel hub.