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02-01-2011, 10:55 PM | #1 | |
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Tiny Fiat 500 earns an unimpressive 30/38 MPG & 27/34 with automatic
Very disappointing but I have to say not surprising. We have much larger, more powerful cars like the Elantra, Cruze, & '12 Focus achieving 40 MPG. That makes this Fiat toy unacceptable IMO. Never mind that it starts at $16K. Fail.
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02-01-2011, 11:51 PM | #2 |
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kinda looks like a mini
that new 4 door mini looks pretty freakin cool i havent looked up its specs or anything |
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Are those other cars rated at 40mpg or is this figure just achievable? Cause there's kind of a difference. The Yaris is rated around what this Fiat is but we know it can do much better. Most likely the Fiat will too. Plus I agree it looks a little like a Mini. Which is a good thing imo.
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The 3 cars mentioned that get 40 mpg highway legitimately achieved that in the same testing that gave the Yaris a 35/36 highway rating. Most of us see more than 36 on the highway and it's safe to assume that most will also see more than 40 in the 3 cars rated at 40 (if driven at reasonable speeds). In the case of the Cruze and '12 Focus, special ECO models only achieve the magical 40. All other models get around 38. All Elantra's get 40 though. |
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02-02-2011, 11:37 AM | #5 |
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so the non eco-model Cruze is estimated at 26/36 mpg
the non eco-model Focus is estimated at 28/38 mpg and the Elantra is 29/40 mpg I was just saying those numbers aren't THAT much better. In fact the city estimates for the FIAT are actually higher. Don't get me wrong I'd probably still buy any one of those other models before a FIAT but still, I don't think you can bash them on mpgs alone... personally I think every manufacturer is dropping the ball in that area.
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I Just can't see the Fiat succeeding unless a lot of people want an odd looking fashion statement. |
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02-02-2011, 01:16 PM | #7 |
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It's surprising to me that the auto trans has such a high mileage penalty. Trend lately is auto mileage is equal or greater than manual trans mileage.
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That's my take - happy to be told I'm wrong. |
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Plus NO HAGGLING on the price when it comes state-side. Which sucks cause there was a time 3 years a go when I was looking at the Saturn Sky. The dealer had it marked up to 28k(the car was a base model) and they didn't allow for any dealing on the price.
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The ten most economical cars in the UK, and all except the hybrid are - wait for it - diesel powered.
And yet they STILL refuse to sell small diesels in the US. <sigh> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/...e.html?image=9 |
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Some interior pics in case some haven't seen them...
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02-03-2011, 07:10 PM | #13 |
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I can't/won't tell you you're wrong for sure but I thought most (all?) new autos have lock-up torque converters so highway mileage should be closer like in the Yaris (36/35; manual/auto).
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We hired a Renault Megane last time we went over there. Diesel, ugly as sin, but a real blast to drive. You really didn't notice it was a diesel. Forget the ones that sound like Harleys on crack, this thing was smooth as silk, and was giving 50 miles to the gallon happily, while taking out BMW 3-series on the twisty stuff. Fun!
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Regardless of what we think, these things are selling like hotcakes in Europe...
I'll stick with my Yaris! Cheers! M2
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And they will sell like hotcakes here, too; what a boost for Chrysler! My faith in Chrysler makes me think that they will bomb it somehow...
My buddy (long-time Fiat owner) is lusting after the 500, but I think he will be disappointed (as will I) at the sheer size and bulk of it. I remember the original 500 (and the topolino, the 850, the ll00 sports etc), and it was SMALL, even compared to a mini (the original). But, one has to have room for all the crap the US Government insists on, plus all the extras (7 air bags??). Ah, well, it may be interesting to see what it does in "Competition" trim... Last edited by TLyttle; 02-05-2011 at 12:29 AM. |
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wow that interior is hideous. what's going on with the heat and A/C controls? and are those giant power window buttons right next to the shifter? and keith urban?
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