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echo_hrs · 06-04-2006, 08:38 PM

All of this turbo vs supercharger nonsense really is irrelevant until someone ponies up the dough and courage to do up their 1NZ-FE...

I'm so sick of all of these threads with all the know-it-alls doing virtual speculation without any real-world testing specifically on a Yaris powertrain...

SophieSleeps · 06-04-2006, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by echo_hrs

All of this turbo vs supercharger nonsense really is irrelevant until someone ponies up the dough and courage to do up their 1NZ-FE...

I'm so sick of all of these threads with all the know-it-alls doing virtual speculation without any real-world testing specifically on a Yaris powertrain...

You definately have a good point there. A real world comparison would be ideal.

Though I don't necessarily think I'm talking out my ass. I've done numerous builds with both superchargers and turbo's and I don't think the differences I've seen were because of motor or drivetrain.

punch · 06-05-2006, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by echo_hrs

All of this turbo vs supercharger nonsense really is irrelevant until someone ponies up the dough and courage to do up their 1NZ-FE...

I'm so sick of all of these threads with all the know-it-alls doing virtual speculation without any real-world testing specifically on a Yaris powertrain...

umm there is an owner in toronto with the blitz supercharger on his red rs....

echo_hrs · 06-05-2006, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by punch

umm there is an owner in toronto with the blitz supercharger on his red rs....

Copper Orange Mica, actually, but he's not here on the forum to express the details/benefits/difficulties of the unit...

Cheers

SmellyTofu · 06-05-2006, 08:09 AM

I've driven a Blitz S/C Echo (1st model) .. I couldn't wipe the smile off my face. :) Had a few issues but nothing major that hindered performance.

ricko · 06-05-2006, 10:40 AM

Come-on Smelly, what issues????? Be specific, if you have the experience ....
..... SHARE!!!!!

punch · 06-05-2006, 11:11 AM

umm if you goto the australian toyota site, trd makes a turbo charged vitz (older style model)

also check out the new sedan that trd is working on 3.5L supercharged v6

SmellyTofu · 06-05-2006, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by punch

umm if you goto the australian toyota site, trd makes a turbo charged vitz (older style model)

also check out the new sedan that trd is working on 3.5L supercharged v6

I belive the turbo Echo was a TRD kit but that was a test car to gauge interest. It was never sold officially in Australia.

The TRD Aurion (the name of the S/C sedan) looks promising.. Can't wait to have a little drive in one.

Ricko, nothing major as I said.. just leaking manifolds.. easily fixable with a gasket change... other than that, laugh-a-mile as you drive past most cars. :)

Ron · 06-05-2006, 01:35 PM

i had a supercharged mr2, that was basically maintenance free. just gas and go, oil change at recommended intervals. now THAT was a blast to drive, oem supercharger setup engineered to toyota precision.

ricko · 06-05-2006, 04:26 PM

Thanks Ron, that is the type of info that is useful to me. If Toyota releases a super-charger for the Yaris through TRD, we can expect a performance increase without the problems associated with SOME after-market accessories. Some people here have the skill and are equiped to do a little of their own R+D, NOT ME.

YarisHatch · 06-05-2006, 04:39 PM

If you want specifics, i can give it to you. All my posts on this particular thread is related to the xb/xa community, which shares identical motors, the two major differences are ecu mapping (closer to 06' xb's than older models) and gearing is spread out more in the yaris compared to the xb/xa due to its geared specifically for fuel economy, although the automatics are identical.

Tankota · 06-05-2006, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ricko

If Toyota releases a super-charger for the Yaris through TRD, we can expect a performance increase without the problems associated with SOME after-market accessories.

While they may be better than some, TRD still has problems.. The Tacoma TRD supercharger had and still does have some problems, they eventually released a 7th injector kit to try and fix it but it's still got issues. At least if it frys the piston heads during the warranty period you are covered since it's TRD (only if the dealer installed it). After the powertrain warranty is up you are SOL, and most of the damage from the Tacoma charger showed up later for people.

YarisHatch · 06-05-2006, 09:55 PM

trd makes pretty crappy s/cers, their newest addition for the 2az has huge oil leak issues coming from the shafts and other places, and i've heard of a few losing psi on stock belts.

ricko · 06-05-2006, 11:41 PM

Hmmmmmmmm. Seems there is no foolproof way to do this. I guess the easiest way to get 200hp is to buy an SI.

YarisHatch · 06-06-2006, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ricko

Hmmmmmmmm. Seems there is no foolproof way to do this. I guess the easiest way to get 200hp is to buy an SI.

Wrong!

While i do love honda's, its quite possible to do so and do it safely. The biggest issue is the prep build. You have to upgrade internals and parts of the transmission. Running full synthetic motor oil and trans oil is a must. If you take the time, and do a well investigated prep build you will save yourself from many headaches in the future. Knowing the motors weak and strong spots will also benefit you. But majority of people who have issues with boost are usually the ones with poor tuning, not taking care of their car, mis-shifting, and not preping the motor for boost.

ricko · 06-06-2006, 08:02 AM

Of course it IS possible, but to do it right is not EASY and it requires an owner that is prepared to take all the necessary steps to maintain the performance and longevity of the engine. Hence the comment, " .... the EASIEST way to get 200hp is to buy an SI."

bulldogs2k · 07-13-2006, 01:04 PM

The last gen SI are nice but if you have the time, and money, then go for a boosted yaris

Hyde · 07-14-2006, 01:32 PM

I'm trying to get my hand on the NCP91 version of the Blitz S/C right now.

Tuning will be done with E-Management. With the intake, header, exhaust on + ecu tuning, i should be able to get 140-150WHP.

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06-04-2006, 08:38 PM	#1
echo_hrs Around the universe... Drives: Uber-Evolved Pokemon Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Top Gear Test Track Posts: 228	All of this turbo vs supercharger nonsense really is irrelevant until someone ponies up the dough and courage to do up their 1NZ-FE... I'm so sick of all of these threads with all the know-it-alls doing virtual speculation without any real-world testing specifically on a Yaris powertrain...

06-05-2006, 08:09 AM	#5
SmellyTofu 好多人& Drives: . Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sydney Posts: 264	I've driven a Blitz S/C Echo (1st model) .. I couldn't wipe the smile off my face. :) Had a few issues but nothing major that hindered performance.

06-05-2006, 10:40 AM	#6
ricko Drives: Copper-Orange Yaris RS Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Georgian Triangle Ont. Posts: 310	Come-on Smelly, what issues????? Be specific, if you have the experience .... ..... SHARE!!!!!

06-05-2006, 11:11 AM	#7
punch Drives: 2007 Yaris Sedan "D" package Join Date: May 2006 Location: Barrie, ontario Posts: 852	umm if you goto the australian toyota site, trd makes a turbo charged vitz (older style model) also check out the new sedan that trd is working on 3.5L supercharged v6

06-05-2006, 01:35 PM	#9
Ron Drives: BBM Yaris HB Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Vancouver Posts: 71	i had a supercharged mr2, that was basically maintenance free. just gas and go, oil change at recommended intervals. now THAT was a blast to drive, oem supercharger setup engineered to toyota precision.

06-05-2006, 04:26 PM	#10
ricko Drives: Copper-Orange Yaris RS Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Georgian Triangle Ont. Posts: 310	Thanks Ron, that is the type of info that is useful to me. If Toyota releases a super-charger for the Yaris through TRD, we can expect a performance increase without the problems associated with SOME after-market accessories. Some people here have the skill and are equiped to do a little of their own R+D, NOT ME.

06-05-2006, 04:39 PM	#11
YarisHatch Drives: Blank Join Date: May 2006 Location: Blank Posts: 51	If you want specifics, i can give it to you. All my posts on this particular thread is related to the xb/xa community, which shares identical motors, the two major differences are ecu mapping (closer to 06' xb's than older models) and gearing is spread out more in the yaris compared to the xb/xa due to its geared specifically for fuel economy, although the automatics are identical.

06-05-2006, 09:55 PM	#13
YarisHatch Drives: Blank Join Date: May 2006 Location: Blank Posts: 51	trd makes pretty crappy s/cers, their newest addition for the 2az has huge oil leak issues coming from the shafts and other places, and i've heard of a few losing psi on stock belts.

06-05-2006, 11:41 PM	#14
ricko Drives: Copper-Orange Yaris RS Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Georgian Triangle Ont. Posts: 310	Hmmmmmmmm. Seems there is no foolproof way to do this. I guess the easiest way to get 200hp is to buy an SI.

06-06-2006, 08:02 AM	#16
ricko Drives: Copper-Orange Yaris RS Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Georgian Triangle Ont. Posts: 310	Of course it IS possible, but to do it right is not EASY and it requires an owner that is prepared to take all the necessary steps to maintain the performance and longevity of the engine. Hence the comment, " .... the EASIEST way to get 200hp is to buy an SI."

07-13-2006, 01:04 PM	#17
bulldogs2k Drives: '00 s2000, 2007 yaris hatch Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Va Beach Posts: 124	The last gen SI are nice but if you have the time, and money, then go for a boosted yaris

07-14-2006, 01:32 PM	#18
Hyde Drives: M3,CayenneS,SL500,550i,GT3RS Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Vancouver Posts: 181	I'm trying to get my hand on the NCP91 version of the Blitz S/C right now. Tuning will be done with E-Management. With the intake, header, exhaust on + ecu tuning, i should be able to get 140-150WHP.