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11-18-2006, 02:59 AM | #1 |
Engine Swap
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Would a Toyota 2ZZ-GE2 engine fit into a Yaris? Why spend $2,500+ on a turbo that might not fit, when I can spend $3,000 on an engine that spits out 180hp? ANYONE????... |
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11-18-2006, 04:58 AM | #2 | |
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Assume: Engine removal & install 16hr@$50/hr $800 Custom Wiring Shit 5hr@80/hr $400 Custom Engine Mount 3 pieces @300 each $900 Custom Drive Shaft 2 pieces @400 each $800 Custom AC line, Rad hose, Heater hose, Vaccum lines, intakes...etc $500 Plus a bunch of unknow stuffs, wut about $1000 u are looking at $4400 on top of ur $3000motor. Now u got yourself a 180HP yaris........ wow wut a deal............lol how about Blitz Compressor $3000 full internal w/ piston&rod $1500 Head job w/oversize valve & spring $1000 Injectors $800 Engine removal $ install 16hrs@50/hr $800 ECU flash and tune 5Hr@80/hr 400 $7500, u got yourself a Race Motor with over 200WHP how's that lmfao
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11-18-2006, 06:57 AM | #3 |
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TRD Thailand quoted about $3000 for the swap including the engine, all labor and parts, so it's quite a viable alternative here. But it would take them about a month or more, as the whole engine bay needs to be modified to fit the engine. And, the engine would be a refurbished one, not brand new.
But, the 2ZZ-GE is a very interesting engine, redlining at 8000+rpm if I am not mistaken... Plus you could always add a turbo or supercharger later, if there's any space left in the engine bay, and look at some pretty crazy power... And, apparently the 1.8L Yaris TS will be eventually available here too, so that's another option for an engine, wait and see!
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11-18-2006, 11:50 AM | #4 |
how big is the engine? the engine bay seems so cramped even with a teeny weeny inline 4 banger..!
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11-18-2006, 12:29 PM | #5 |
the engine and tranny is too big to fit in between the Left and Right Front unibody.............seriously don't think distorsion of unibody is smart
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11-18-2006, 04:30 PM | #6 |
Ι have thought of it too.
In Europe, this engine has 192hp and the limiter is at 8800rpm!If I could find a brand new one, I would do it!
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11-18-2006, 07:16 PM | #7 |
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[edit] 2ZZ-GE
2ZZ-GE Engine in the Corolla XRSThe 2ZZ-GE is a 1.8 L (1796 cc) version built in Japan. Bore is 82 mm and stroke is 85 mm. Output is 180 hp (134 kW) at 7600 RPM with 130 ft·lbf (176 N·m) of torque at 6800 RPM. It uses MFI fuel injection, has VVTL-i, and features forged steel connecting rods. Compression ratio is 11.5:1. Unlike others in the ZZ family, the 2ZZ-GE requires "premium" gasoline - 91 octane or above in the USA. Power output for this engine varies depending on the application and tuning, with the Lotus Elise and Lotus Exige offering 190 hp but the Pontiac Vibe, Toyota Corolla and Toyota Matrix versions only developing 180 hp (+2005: 170 hp). The Corolla Compressor and Lotus Exige S add a supercharger to achieve 215 hp, while the Exige 240R's supercharger increases output to 240 hp. The 2ZZ-GE utilizes a dual camshaft profile system (the "L" in VVTL-i, known by enthusiasts as "lift"), to produce the added power without an increase in displacement or forced induction compared to the lesser engines in the ZZ series. This is similar in concept to Honda's i-VTEC, but the two systems are very different in design and execution. Toyota commissioned Yamaha to design the 2ZZ-GE, and it shares several similarities with street bike engines, the most notable being the relatively high RPM design. The high-output cam profile is not activated until above 6000 RPM (the exact point of engagement is different depending on the vehicle, year, and ECU involved). On all of the Toyota-built vehicles, redline begins at 8200 RPM while the tachometer is typically numbered to 9000, giving an incredibly small "unusable" range. The Toyota ECU electronicly limits RPMs (through fuel and/or spark cut) to ~8200 - it is impossible to "over-rev" the engine with the throttle alone, a downshift from a higher gear is required. The motor will happily run at ~4000 RPM for extended periods of time, and during stress testing the motor will be run at redline for extended periods without issue. For the first few years of production, the engines were notorious for breaking off the "lift bolts" inside the engine. This didn't do any damage, but did hamper performance, as the high output cam profile would not engage properly. Toyota fixed the problem in late 2002, and there is a TSB for dealers showing what bolt to replace and the redesigned bolt. Applications: Toyota Celica SS-II (Japan, 190 PS) Toyota Celica GT-S (USA, 180 hp) Toyota Celica 190/T-Sport (UK, 189hp) Toyota Corolla Sportivo (Australia, 182 hp) Toyota Corolla Compressor (Europe, 215 PS) Toyota Corolla XRS (USA, 170 hp) Toyota Corolla Fielder Z Aero Tourer (Japan, 190 PS) Toyota Corolla Runx Z Aero Tourer (Japan, 190 PS) Toyota Matrix XRS Pontiac Vibe GT Lotus Elise (North America/UK) Lotus Exige (US/UK)
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11-18-2006, 07:23 PM | #8 |
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power is way too high in the RPM range for me.
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11-18-2006, 07:25 PM | #9 |
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perhaps I'll raise the question, if this motor is a headache to install in a yaris, what would be a better motor to swap?
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11-18-2006, 07:32 PM | #10 |
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I would guess the engine being used for the Yaris TS would be a better fit, though I am not sure what model it is.
A 2JZ-GTE would be pretty sweet though
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11-18-2006, 07:36 PM | #11 |
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a 2jz-gte with a rwd conversion, would a be kick ass lil drift machine
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11-18-2006, 10:17 PM | #12 |
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a yaris drifting that'll be the day lmao
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11-18-2006, 10:47 PM | #13 | |
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11-20-2006, 02:51 PM | #14 |
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any updates here?
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11-20-2006, 03:17 PM | #15 |
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there has to be better motors.
3sgte? AWD? :) |
11-20-2006, 03:58 PM | #16 |
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An AWD Yaris... yummmmmm
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11-22-2006, 07:27 PM | #17 |
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One of the Yaris sedans at SEMA featured a fully tuned Garrett turbo charged 2ZZ-GE2.
There was some heavy modification as the steering wheel was moved further to the rear of the vehicle for even weight distribution.
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11-24-2006, 02:07 PM | #18 | |
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We are currently working on developing the braking system, suspension, a body kit, and building the engine. If someone is looking to just do a swap in their Yaris I would recommend contacting http://www.whyindustries.com, http://www.turbotoyotas.com (related groups) They already have developed a number of swaps for the xA, xB platforms and it would only take them a couple weeks to make new mounts for the Yaris. They also have a turbo kit developed for the 1nz-fe. It doesn't look like there is any contact info up on the site yet, but I do have it if anyone is really interested. As far as Project Sideways Yaris is concerned, the engine selection was based of a very basic idea. We wanted to present to Toyota that they could build an affordable RWD car for under $20k by utilizing parts that are EASILY available from other Toyotas. There are thousands of base model 2wd, std cab Tacomas , thus thousands of 3RZs and the Yaris is a very affordable platform so putting them together for an OE shouldn't cost very much. Second to that, the 3RZ is a very strong engine, it is used in the RWD tC drag cars and produces upwards of 1500hp. Our target for Project Sideways Yaris is 300-400hp. Though the 3RZ doesn't have the prestige of the 3S-GTE, 4A-GE, or the 2JZ-GTE... it will be more than capable of handling the task. Hope that answers the questions. Peace, David Project Sideways Yaris Manager |
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