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Old 11-02-2009, 06:10 PM   #1
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Yaris Sedan gets better mileage than Yaris Hatchback

.....well, at least according to this chart from consumerreports. Check it out:

http://editorial.autos.msn.com/artic...umentid=585804

On another note, driving slower improves Fuel Economy....but you already knew that... Check out what the Yaris gets. It's the last on this chart.

http://editorial.autos.msn.com/artic...mentid=1090496
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Old 11-02-2009, 06:46 PM   #2
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Old 11-02-2009, 06:53 PM   #3
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I'm guessing between all the cars listed in both tests they drove less than 5000 total miles.

Consumer Reports are bought out shills who don't understand anything about scientific method.
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Old 11-02-2009, 08:11 PM   #4
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sedan could have a much better coefficient of drag
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Old 11-02-2009, 09:46 PM   #5
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i believe the sedan weighs a little less, but i can't imagine it making 'that' much a difference(33avg. vs 30avg.)!
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Old 11-02-2009, 09:47 PM   #6
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Maybe it's like BuildCode says, lower coefficient
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Old 11-02-2009, 10:15 PM   #7
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coefficient of drag is 0.29 for both, I don't remember the exact numbers, but they are within half a percent weight wise

http://www.yarisworld.com/forums/goo...007yaris_s.pdf

I promise you the answer is CR is retarded and probably 5-10 mile trips which will generally lead to wildly inaccurate conclusions when it comes to a car's fuel efficiency. On top of that they probably let one warm up longer(or cool down less in between other cars' tests).

Consumer Reports was a good unbiased source of information up until about 5 years ago..
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Old 11-02-2009, 11:28 PM   #8
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I lost all faith in CR back in the 80's when they gave the Dodge Colt a much better rating than the identical Plymouth Colt.
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Old 11-02-2009, 11:34 PM   #9
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Or maybe it's because the sedan RULEZ!!
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Old 11-03-2009, 12:03 AM   #10
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Yep, the sedan rules.

I can't imagine how they got such low city mileage with either the sedan or the liftback. Bad driving, for sure.
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Old 11-03-2009, 02:56 AM   #11
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sedans FTW!!!! i still love the LB Yaris as well even though i don't drive it. just saying it as a fellow yaris owner :)
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Old 11-03-2009, 07:23 AM   #12
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Nice links but they do seem inaccurate.

23 mpg in the city for the sedan, but 44 on the highway? It does a lot better than that in the city. The highway number is achievable if you keep it under 60-65 mph.
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Old 11-03-2009, 01:01 PM   #13
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Nice links but they do seem inaccurate.

23 mpg in the city for the sedan, but 44 on the highway? It does a lot better than that in the city. The highway number is achievable if you keep it under 60-65 mph.

44 mpg is achievable at 70 mph.
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Old 11-03-2009, 02:29 PM   #14
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44 mpg is achievable at 70 mph.

Not without hypermiling techniques.

[such as high pressure in the tires]
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Old 11-03-2009, 02:31 PM   #15
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Nice links but they do seem inaccurate.

23 mpg in the city for the sedan, but 44 on the highway? It does a lot better than that in the city. The highway number is achievable if you keep it under 60-65 mph.
I call shenanagins.

driving normally and not caring about mpg my piglet
in a pretty hilly area gets 28mpg city on a bad day.

how they came up with 23..must have been smack downtown
Boston on halloween night or something to come up with such gross numbers

and 44 highway....shenanagins again
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Old 11-03-2009, 03:11 PM   #16
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Not without hypermiling techniques.

[such as high pressure in the tires]
I have got 44 mpg @ 70 mph, tires at 32 psi, 100+ degress outside, with the AC on 3 and 4, the whole trip. I don't call those hypermiling techniques....
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Old 11-03-2009, 03:45 PM   #17
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43MPG highway, without tryin hard....
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Old 11-03-2009, 03:47 PM   #18
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I have got 44 mpg @ 70 mph, tires at 32 psi, 100+ degress outside, with the AC on 3 and 4, the whole trip. I don't call those hypermiling techniques....
Hills or no hills? That's more the question.

Best I can get on a daily commute that involves up and down hills often, was 37.3mpg. And that's with an average speed of about 68-70, no AC. (Not that I noticed a difference when the AC was running.)
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